Alexander Extended Edition Rumor
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Originally Posted by canaryfarmer
My question would be how good can this footage be if it's wasn't good enough for both the theatrical and Director's Cut versions? Maybe third time's a charm, but he's passed on using this material twice already now.
(I'm not saying this to rag on Alexander, I think this would apply for most movies.)
(I'm not saying this to rag on Alexander, I think this would apply for most movies.)
as anything in the first cut (esp. the meeting between Nixon and Helms), so
based on Stone's other efforts, I'd say there could be a great deal worth
looking at in this new cut.
By the way, GO VOLS!!!
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Originally Posted by Anubis2005X
Seems like the only person here who can stand Alexander is GlendaleFalcon. They're making it just for you dude, hope you feel special...
as much as I did. You might check out the couple of message boards dedicated
to film to find out just how many. It made a lot of money overseas and I'm
sure they'll enjoy this new cut as well, if Warner Bros. released it worldwide.
I'm not sure which companies have the home video rights outside of the U.S.
anyway.
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Originally Posted by GLENDALEFALCON
I was CLEARLY talking about any more 'gay' themed (although that word didn't exist then) scenes.
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Originally Posted by GLENDALEFALCON
More power to you, but I'll be looking for more of Mr. Farrell with his clothes
off.
off.
Do they swing to and fro?
That man has a sack that would embarrass a bull elephant.
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Originally Posted by GLENDALEFALCON
Oh, sorry! StellAR!! Anyway, the answer to your question is no, but it depends
on why you disliked it. I don't agree with some of the reasons people have
written this film off, and I won't think much of you if your reasons fall into
any of those areas.
on why you disliked it. I don't agree with some of the reasons people have
written this film off, and I won't think much of you if your reasons fall into
any of those areas.
Some of the battle scenes were nifty, and the little vixen he was married to was a joy to watch, but I almost felt like the film lasted longer than Alexander's actual life.
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Originally Posted by GLENDALEFALCON
I was joking, but for some reason, I don't think the guy above my post was.
Anyways back to the topic, I liked Alexander. Not an amazing film but I really don't see what all the hate was for. I own a really neato R3 version...
But 4 hours? Count me out. I don't think I've ever seen a film that needed 4 hours to tell its story.
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Originally Posted by RyoHazuki
But 4 hours? Count me out. I don't think I've ever seen a film that needed 4 hours to tell its story.
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Originally Posted by Josh Z
Lawrence of Arabia.
As a big fan of Stones who owns ever movie of his but Alexander, I have to agree that it was a mediocre movie. It wasn't terrible, but it's not very good either. I might rent to check out the new cut but will not be buying it. Sorry Oliver, the problem was not the homosexuality which you say made people stay away, it's that your last 2 films seem like they have been done by an aging film maker who has lost more "game" than Michael Jordan with the Wizards. Stick a fork in him, he's done!
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Originally Posted by purplechoe
it's that your last 2 films seem like they have been done by an aging film maker who has lost more "game" than Michael Jordan with the Wizards. Stick a fork in him, he's done!
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Originally Posted by GLENDALEFALCON
I was joking, but for some reason, I don't think the guy above my post was.
I don't think the homosexuality kept people away either. You didn't see anything.
Spoiler:
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Originally Posted by sirbrady
I did not like Alexander, so shoot me. Not the worst movie ever. But I could not sit through the 4 hr cut. I like the LOTR Exts, and I only watched them twice each.
I don't think the homosexuality kept people away either. You didn't see anything.
I don't think the homosexuality kept people away either. You didn't see anything.
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been far more successful with the 'Braveheart' and 'Gladiator' crowd had it
NOT even touched on that subject matter. Now, Stone knew full well that the
money backers of the film would not stand for a full out gay sex scene of
some kind. In fact, Warner Bros. had to have a promise nothing beyond what
audiences would see on a typical 'Will and Grace' would be included in the
film for them (WB) to give their $35 million and North American distribution
rights. Also, Stone only showed Alexander at ages 11/12 and 19 during his
"younger" years and any sexual relationship between Colin and Jared would've
happened between that time. Therefore, even IF Stone would've been allowed
to show anything explicit, it didn't fit into the timeline Stone established in the
script. Anyway, I find it shockingly shallow people were upset by the
lack of sexual content in the film. As if the only way to show the relationship
between two men had to be through some detailed, overlong sex scene.
That is terrible! I guess people missed the two keys scenes in which both
characters expressed their love for each other, which is FAR MORE powerful
than some quickie in a tent.
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Originally Posted by purplechoe
Amen!
As a big fan of Stones who owns ever movie of his but Alexander, I have to agree that it was a mediocre movie. It wasn't terrible, but it's not very good either. I might rent to check out the new cut but will not be buying it. Sorry Oliver, the problem was not the homosexuality which you say made people stay away, it's that your last 2 films seem like they have been done by an aging film maker who has lost more "game" than Michael Jordan with the Wizards. Stick a fork in him, he's done!
As a big fan of Stones who owns ever movie of his but Alexander, I have to agree that it was a mediocre movie. It wasn't terrible, but it's not very good either. I might rent to check out the new cut but will not be buying it. Sorry Oliver, the problem was not the homosexuality which you say made people stay away, it's that your last 2 films seem like they have been done by an aging film maker who has lost more "game" than Michael Jordan with the Wizards. Stick a fork in him, he's done!
most successful domestic money maker, means it's time to stick a fork in him?
I don't think so! Another person who only likes somebody when the film geek
elite consider them to be 'hip' and then throws them to the trash ben once
they make any more than five or six films. Give me a break!
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Originally Posted by mzupeman2
Three different versions of a film all in such a short short time, yikes.
Cut' actually shorter than the first cut, which meant cutting a few scenes
they (and myself) greatly enjoyed So, he's going back to make the ultimate
version of the film for his (and the films) fans. I think it's a very
wonderful and beautiful thing to do.
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IMO, people hate the film so much because it represents another cinematic opportunity wasted (eg, Pearl Harbor). If you're going to make an epic, especially a historically-based one that's meant to be the definitive story, then you must get it right.
The disappointment is amplified because Oliver Stone is capable of making well-constructed films, therefore he's held to a higher standard of review.
The disappointment is amplified because Oliver Stone is capable of making well-constructed films, therefore he's held to a higher standard of review.
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Originally Posted by GLENDALEFALCON
Stone got into a bit of trouble with fans of the film for making the 'Director's
Cut' actually shorter than the first cut, which meant cutting a few scenes
they (and myself) greatly enjoyed So, he's going back to make the ultimate
version of the film for his (and the films) fans. I think it's a very
wonderful and beautiful thing to do.
Cut' actually shorter than the first cut, which meant cutting a few scenes
they (and myself) greatly enjoyed So, he's going back to make the ultimate
version of the film for his (and the films) fans. I think it's a very
wonderful and beautiful thing to do.
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Originally Posted by GLENDALEFALCON
So, he's going back to make the ultimate
version of the film for his (and the films) fans. I think it's a very
wonderful and beautiful thing to do.
version of the film for his (and the films) fans. I think it's a very
wonderful and beautiful thing to do.
Who knows.BTW, RyoHazuki, that's a very sharp set.
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Originally Posted by Fincher Fan
Unbelievable...


