Original Star Wars Trilogy Being Re-Released On DVD...The Non-SEs
#126
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Originally Posted by DarthVong
I don't understand the complaining about the new ones including the 2004 Editions. If memory serves MOST of the Special Edition haters said they would not buy the 2004 Special Editions anyway because they didn't INCLUDE the original theatrical releases....So for those that stuck to their guns this should not be a double-dip then, right?
#128
I'm really looking forward to seeing what the new packaging looks like. The current artwork on the 2004 discs is some of the worst-looking Star Wars artwork I've ever seen--and I've seen a lot of bad SW artwork.
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Awesome news, though. Came from out of nowhere. Hope they're cleaned up as much as possible, and I'm totally cool with the 2.0 sound. I do wish that we would get some old school extras on the second disc, instead of the 2004 cuts (which most of us probably have already), but on the other hand, if the 2004 discs are identical, I won't feel as bad about getting rid of the 2004 set.
And Lucas still sucks--just not as much as he did yesterday.
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Awesome news, though. Came from out of nowhere. Hope they're cleaned up as much as possible, and I'm totally cool with the 2.0 sound. I do wish that we would get some old school extras on the second disc, instead of the 2004 cuts (which most of us probably have already), but on the other hand, if the 2004 discs are identical, I won't feel as bad about getting rid of the 2004 set.
And Lucas still sucks--just not as much as he did yesterday.
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#129
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Originally Posted by Eplicon
I'm just glad to be hearing Boba Fett talking in a menancing voice once again, rather than with that wimpy Kiwi accent.

Seriously, this is really cool news. I grew up with originals, saw them all in their original theatrical runs, love the prequels and prefer the 2004 versions. Guess I'm not a REAL fan in some people's eyes.

Anyway, I'm very excited to get these release for nostalgic purposes, but also because I think there's a chance we will see the technical issues with the 2004 OT (reversed score on ANH, sabers in ESB and ROTJ) corrected on the editions packed in with the unaltered versions. Why else include them unless they are somehow different from the current release? If there are fixes to the 2004 versions, it would be the best way for all involved. Lucas doesn't have to pay for an exchange program, and people don't have to spend extra $ for corrected versions, as they are almost definitely going to buy the unaltered cuts anyway. The only way you'd lose is if you didn't want the unaltered versions.
And can we please stop with the "Lucas is greedy" crap? This guy doesn't need money. He's savvy though. He has shown that he will use money from one project to finance another. He made much more money from the 1997 SE theatrical releases than he spent on them. I'm sure he put a lot of that money right into Phantom Menace. I'm guessing he's doing this now to help finance the TV projects and finally cut the legs off of the bootleg market. He may be crafty, but he's not greedy.
I don't agree with all his decisions, but he deserves our admiration, gratitude and respect. I mean this guy created and gave us the most beloved movies of a generation, and all some people do is bitch about him. What would the industry and movies be like if Lucas and SW never existed?
I think it's very big of him to do this now, even if he does have his own interests in mind. He's received so much flak for not releasing the theatrical cuts, it would have been very easy for him to just say "screw it" and never do this. But he changed his mind and is seemingly admitting a mistake. I applaud him for it.
I'll be putting my copies on order tomorrow from my local distributor.
#130
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Originally Posted by bunkaroo
Anyway, I'm very excited to get these release for nostalgic purposes, but also because I think there's a chance we will see the technical issues with the 2004 OT (reversed score on ANH, sabers in ESB and ROTJ) corrected on the editions packed in with the unaltered versions.
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This is definitely good news. With the exception of the Greedo scene I think all the changes were for the better and I definitely prefer the 2004 editions but I've always said that people should be able to have a choice. I'll be buying these, but the way these films are being released is less than ideal.
First of all, the fact that they come with the 2004 editions sucks. I like them but I already own them and I wish I didn't have to repurchase them when they are most likely the exact same discs I already own.
Secondly is the fact that these aren't presented in a box set and the bonus disc from the box set isn't available seperately. Re-buying the three 2004 discs would be a lot easier to accept if I could just buy a new box set that completely supercedes the one I have. The release should be:
Disc 1: original "Star Wars"
Disc 2: 2004 "Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope"
Disc 3: original "The Empire Strikes Back"
Disc 4: 2004 "Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back"
Disc 5: original "Return of the Jedi"
Disc 6: 2004 "Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi"
Disc 7: 2004 bonus disc
But no, if I want to own all 7 discs I have to ultimately aquire TEN discs across four seperate releases and then somehow unload the three superfluous discs.
They should make the three new discs available seperately or make all 7 discs available together, but the current situation sucks.
First of all, the fact that they come with the 2004 editions sucks. I like them but I already own them and I wish I didn't have to repurchase them when they are most likely the exact same discs I already own.
Secondly is the fact that these aren't presented in a box set and the bonus disc from the box set isn't available seperately. Re-buying the three 2004 discs would be a lot easier to accept if I could just buy a new box set that completely supercedes the one I have. The release should be:
Disc 1: original "Star Wars"
Disc 2: 2004 "Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope"
Disc 3: original "The Empire Strikes Back"
Disc 4: 2004 "Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back"
Disc 5: original "Return of the Jedi"
Disc 6: 2004 "Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi"
Disc 7: 2004 bonus disc
But no, if I want to own all 7 discs I have to ultimately aquire TEN discs across four seperate releases and then somehow unload the three superfluous discs.
They should make the three new discs available seperately or make all 7 discs available together, but the current situation sucks.
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Originally Posted by bunkaroo
Would you be willing to tell Temuera Morrison that face-to-face? 
Seriously, this is really cool news. I grew up with originals, saw them all in their original theatrical runs, love the prequels and prefer the 2004 versions. Guess I'm not a REAL fan in some people's eyes.
Anyway, I'm very excited to get these release for nostalgic purposes, but also because I think there's a chance we will see the technical issues with the 2004 OT (reversed score on ANH, sabers in ESB and ROTJ) corrected on the editions packed in with the unaltered versions. Why else include them unless they are somehow different from the current release? If there are fixes to the 2004 versions, it would be the best way for all involved. Lucas doesn't have to pay for an exchange program, and people don't have to spend extra $ for corrected versions, as they are almost definitely going to buy the unaltered cuts anyway. The only way you'd lose is if you didn't want the unaltered versions.
And can we please stop with the "Lucas is greedy" crap? This guy doesn't need money. He's savvy though. He has shown that he will use money from one project to finance another. He made much more money from the 1997 SE theatrical releases than he spent on them. I'm sure he put a lot of that money right into Phantom Menace. I'm guessing he's doing this now to help finance the TV projects and finally cut the legs off of the bootleg market. He may be crafty, but he's not greedy.
I don't agree with all his decisions, but he deserves our admiration, gratitude and respect. I mean this guy created and gave us the most beloved movies of a generation, and all some people do is bitch about him. What would the industry and movies be like if Lucas and SW never existed?
I think it's very big of him to do this now, even if he does have his own interests in mind. He's received so much flak for not releasing the theatrical cuts, it would have been very easy for him to just say "screw it" and never do this. But he changed his mind and is seemingly admitting a mistake. I applaud him for it.
I'll be putting my copies on order tomorrow from my local distributor.

Seriously, this is really cool news. I grew up with originals, saw them all in their original theatrical runs, love the prequels and prefer the 2004 versions. Guess I'm not a REAL fan in some people's eyes.

Anyway, I'm very excited to get these release for nostalgic purposes, but also because I think there's a chance we will see the technical issues with the 2004 OT (reversed score on ANH, sabers in ESB and ROTJ) corrected on the editions packed in with the unaltered versions. Why else include them unless they are somehow different from the current release? If there are fixes to the 2004 versions, it would be the best way for all involved. Lucas doesn't have to pay for an exchange program, and people don't have to spend extra $ for corrected versions, as they are almost definitely going to buy the unaltered cuts anyway. The only way you'd lose is if you didn't want the unaltered versions.
And can we please stop with the "Lucas is greedy" crap? This guy doesn't need money. He's savvy though. He has shown that he will use money from one project to finance another. He made much more money from the 1997 SE theatrical releases than he spent on them. I'm sure he put a lot of that money right into Phantom Menace. I'm guessing he's doing this now to help finance the TV projects and finally cut the legs off of the bootleg market. He may be crafty, but he's not greedy.
I don't agree with all his decisions, but he deserves our admiration, gratitude and respect. I mean this guy created and gave us the most beloved movies of a generation, and all some people do is bitch about him. What would the industry and movies be like if Lucas and SW never existed?
I think it's very big of him to do this now, even if he does have his own interests in mind. He's received so much flak for not releasing the theatrical cuts, it would have been very easy for him to just say "screw it" and never do this. But he changed his mind and is seemingly admitting a mistake. I applaud him for it.
I'll be putting my copies on order tomorrow from my local distributor.
As far a complaining about his video release methods, he could have released this trilogy alot more than he has, how many triple dips are already out on DVD of crap movies. This is the most important franchise ever and this is only a double dip. Lets wait and see all the details before complaining about this release and if you have to buy all the Star Wars DVDs to get everything so be it. Come on this is Star Wars.
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It'll be awesome to hear Han say "It's alright, trust me!" Instead of "It's alright, I can see a lot better." Sorry, I'm just a stickler I guess. Oh yeah, excited to hear the music in the death star attack again, instead of it basically being muted.
#137
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Hurray!!! Han shoots first, the yub yub song, no uncle fester hologram, no CGI, no hayden ghost!
I remember i posted before hoping to have the 1977,80,83 originals each released separately as 2-discer (2nd disc extras) individual releases w/ original cover poster art giving some respect to them as pieces of cinema rather than bunched together with crappy computerized cover art in the botched versions. Hopefully the poster art is on the covers.
I remember i posted before hoping to have the 1977,80,83 originals each released separately as 2-discer (2nd disc extras) individual releases w/ original cover poster art giving some respect to them as pieces of cinema rather than bunched together with crappy computerized cover art in the botched versions. Hopefully the poster art is on the covers.
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Originally Posted by dizzlle01
I read somewhere here that the crawl is not going to be in it.Can someone here confirm this?
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I for one could do without the forced "extra" aka another copy of the 2004 SE. Just give me the unaltered originals George and I'll be quite happy.
Speaking of which... I finally attempted to watch my copy of "A New Hope" from the 2004 boxset not that long ago. Turns out I got one of the defective copies. Is Fox still allowing people to switch it for a fixed copy?
Speaking of which... I finally attempted to watch my copy of "A New Hope" from the 2004 boxset not that long ago. Turns out I got one of the defective copies. Is Fox still allowing people to switch it for a fixed copy?
#141
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Too little, too late... I've moved on to the High Def formats.
I'll wait a few more years.
I'll wait a few more years.
#143
this is awesome. please don't mess up the sound or color of the light sabers and other stuff. the only thing they should touch is the boxes around the tie fighters, and even that is not that important i suppose.
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Originally Posted by Tyler_Durden
Why wouldn't they, eventually? After all, they're probably the most wanted set of films of all time.
Because in that article, Jim Ward seems to be saying that these are being done from the 1993 video masters that were created for the laserdiscs. In other words, not HD...
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From: Compton (Straight Outta)
If they're serious about giving folks "the original version that they remember experiencing in theaters," they can't rely on the LD masters, at least not exclusively -- I'm pretty sure Lucas had already made minor alterations to the films by 1994 and the "Definitive" LD release reflected those changes.
#146
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Originally Posted by shaggy
I bet you will like the SE's better, 90% of the love for the originals is exactly that, the nostalgia factor.
#147
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I knew it... I knew it... I knew it.
Finally complainers get their way, and there are still some people who want to complain and say 'oh Lucas is greedy'. Isn't that a point that doesn't need to be made? Yeah, Lucas doesn't NEED the money but an empire is an empire. Bill Gates doesn't need money yet he's still in business. His level of greed was well established when these movies were re-released to begin with, right?
The originals are finally coming, and in a set that will contain the newer ones as well. If you waited, no need for you to ever double dip until you want to upgrade to an HD format. If you didn't wait, well then now you can at least say 'great, now I can finally see the films I remember falling in love with years ago'. There's double and quadruple dips on many things. It's no surprise Star Wars is getting this treatment.
Personally, I don't mind the newer versions. I already own the original or 'newer' boxed set so to speak with the altered versions, but I'll be picking up this set as well. It would be interesting to watch one version compared to the other on DVD back to back.
Finally complainers get their way, and there are still some people who want to complain and say 'oh Lucas is greedy'. Isn't that a point that doesn't need to be made? Yeah, Lucas doesn't NEED the money but an empire is an empire. Bill Gates doesn't need money yet he's still in business. His level of greed was well established when these movies were re-released to begin with, right?
The originals are finally coming, and in a set that will contain the newer ones as well. If you waited, no need for you to ever double dip until you want to upgrade to an HD format. If you didn't wait, well then now you can at least say 'great, now I can finally see the films I remember falling in love with years ago'. There's double and quadruple dips on many things. It's no surprise Star Wars is getting this treatment.
Personally, I don't mind the newer versions. I already own the original or 'newer' boxed set so to speak with the altered versions, but I'll be picking up this set as well. It would be interesting to watch one version compared to the other on DVD back to back.
#150
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I'd be really psyched if these came with a LPCM soundtrack instead of DD 2.0.
Ahh, who am I kidding... F***ING A! September 12, 2006 will be a day long remembered.
Ahh, who am I kidding... F***ING A! September 12, 2006 will be a day long remembered.



