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ThatGuamGuy 05-04-06 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by Bobweiser
Here's another shocker...ready?...he'll do something different for the 30th anniversary of ANH next year. Call me psychic, but does anyone think he'll pass on the opportunity to make even more money with a milestone like that?

I'm guessing a box set of all six movies, possibly with an all-new bonus disc.

Then, after people complain, he'll make the box available seperately (possibly with the bonus disc, most likely not). And there will probably be something wrong with that, but I can't even hazard a guess...

Terrell 05-04-06 10:52 PM


What's funny is, you think that people are lying ... because they're not actually 'Star Wars' fans, even though they want proper releases of the original 'Star Wars' ... so they're making up complaints to have about the release not because they could be potentially legitimate complaints, but *only* because it's George Lucas.
Guam, what the hell do you mean by proper releases? You haven't even seen the frickin' DVD. You keep coming up with these strawman arguments.

Nick Martin 05-04-06 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by bboisvert
Holly Hell -- can we stop?

He doesn't release them, and he's a greedy bastard. He does release them, and he's a greedy bastard.

He says they're never coming out, and people call for his head. He relents and puts them out, and people call for his head.

Un-be-fucking-leav-able.


Here's a news flash -- EVERY FUCKING DVD EVER RELEASED was (in one way or another) put out for... wait for it... greed. Otherwise, they'd give them away. That doesn't make Lucas unique.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

How about locking this thread before this gets any worse - and praising bboisvert for summing this up perfectly...straight-forward, and to the point.

Very well said, sir. :)

sracer 05-04-06 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by ThatGuamGuy
The wording varies ... here's a link where he says these are the only versions, the theatricals will only be on VHS, and that he doesn't actually care what fans say so they might as well get used to it...
http://www.movieweb.com/dvd/news/32/5232.php

I don't see how you could read an interview like that -- basically repeated anywhere and everywhere he gave an interview to -- and not think "Gee, people who bought this DVD thinking that he would never release it again are getting kinda suckered into buying it twice."

Did you read the interview that you linked to?


AP: Why not release both the originals and special editions on DVD?

Lucas: The special edition, that's the one I wanted out there. The other movie, it's on VHS, if anybody wants it. ... I'm not going to spend the, we're talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn't really exist anymore.
Lucas clearly said that as far as he is concerned, the original theatrical releases don't exist anymore. He didn't say that they did not physically exist anymore. You CAN see the difference, right?

sracer 05-04-06 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by Nick Martin
How about locking this thread before this gets any worse

How about ignoring this thread if it bothers you so much? I think the fact that all of the discussion about it is happening in a single thread (and not spawning an entire sub-forum) is a positive sign.

DivxGuy 05-04-06 11:21 PM

Blah . . . my two laserdisc sets have now lost their value. :)

Are the DVDs available for pre-order?

digitalfreaknyc 05-05-06 12:21 AM

So who's going to sell the 3 original discs from their boxed set and put the new version in their place? :)

caligulathegod 05-05-06 01:19 AM


Originally Posted by DivxGuy
Blah . . . my two laserdisc sets have now lost their value. :)

Yeah, but that laserdisc player wasn't going to last forever. They aren't making new ones and used ones are pretty old.

Wannabe 05-05-06 01:46 AM


Originally Posted by wannabe
Here's a free idea George: The Offical Star Wars Trilogy Bootleg DVD Set. Priced at $29.99 and packaged in tyvek envelopes. Contains the original cuts of the movie in Dolby 2.0 stereo. No fancy packaging, no extras, no nothing else. Sell them at StarWars.com - cut out the middlemen and take all of the profit from the 10 million copies you sell. You'll be richer and maybe your long-time fans will finally be satiated.

Looks like George took my suggestion from 05-20-04.

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread....light=satiated

NatrlBornThrllr 05-05-06 02:06 AM


Originally Posted by Wannabe
Looks like George took my suggestion from 05-20-04.

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread....light=satiated

Holy shit somebody actually made a post telling George Lucas to release the original trilogy? On the internet?!

Jon2 05-05-06 02:47 AM


Originally Posted by Bobweiser
...Here's another shocker...ready?...he'll do something different for the 30th anniversary of ANH next year. Call me psychic, but does anyone think he'll pass on the opportunity to make even more money with a milestone like that?

I'm not sure if it will be ready in time for that, but it has been mentioned by Lucas that the SW movies are being processed for a 3-D theatrical re-release.

I suppose when that technology eventually makes it's way to home theaters the SW movies will be re-re-released in whatever format will be available for 3-D home theater viewing.

And yes, I'll probably buy them then. :shrug:

CertifiedTHX 05-05-06 03:00 AM


Originally Posted by Nick Martin
I wonder how long it will be before someone complains that, 'I grew up watching those P&S Video tapes, and that's how I want the originals, but on DVD....'

Considering all the aspects of this to complain about, this one's inevitable:D

Was somewhat tempted to pick up the Faces P&S set on eBay (widescreen being all but impossible to find factory sealed and at a price I would be willing to pay), reasoning that those were the versions with which I grew up. :)

Almost bid $90 once for that beautiful widescreen set from 1995. Brand new. Wouldn't have won it--winning bid was a few bucks more--but I'm amazed by what lengths I nearly traveled to get the 77/80/83 versions.

Wonder how much all the VHS and LD sets are going to go for now. Demand will likely calm, though collectors will no doubt continue to pine for some of the more rare releases. Like that 1992 set that included From Star Wars to Jedi. Just glad I never bit.

--THX

Feathers McGraw 05-05-06 03:47 AM

The decision to bundle these with the SE's is frankly quite indefensible, despite the attempts here. It really satisfies *no one*.

First of all, you have fans like me. Hate the SE's, so I didn't buy them. So including them in with the OT just means that when I buy them, I'm going to remove them from the packaging and toss 'em in a drawer somewhere. They'll never see the light of day again.

Secondly, you have the folks that like the SE's. They *already* own the SE's. So including them in with the OT just means that when they buy them, they *too* have a set of dvd's they have to set aside, useless.

Then you have the folks who hate the OT. They won't be buying regardless.

Finally, you have the folks who like the SE's and the OT, but have never purchased the SE's. Figure that's a total of something like 3 guys in the entire US.

The obvious sales solution here is to release the OT only, an anyone who wants both can buy them both, or anyone with the SE already can just buy the OT.

Nick Danger 05-05-06 05:40 AM

I am shocked that Lucas would double-dip Star Wars.

mzupeman2 05-05-06 05:43 AM

Alright, first off, you can't say this will please *no one* as if the Star Wars geekdom that exists is the final end all to the whole debate. I'm one person that was quite indifferent but I'm quite happy that I'll have an even fuller Star Wars collection now that the originals will be out.

The originals are packaged with the special editions, big deal. Here's the point, you'll be paying retail prices that would be the equivalent of a box set that contains only three movies anyways. You're not getting robbed here, people only assume so because they're looking at the high ol' MSRP.

Debate all you want that you're being robbed because 'oh I have to have something included in a package I don't want'. Well guess what fanboys, when the SE's were released, many of you said 'this sucks, they should have packaged the originals with these, I dont want to be forced to buy SE's only'. Many of you waited. Now we're getting what the majority of the argument wanted before... an inclusion of the originals with the SE's. NOW, we're getting SE's with the originals packaged and now it's 'well I want them in an individual release'.

In order to please anyone, I know a lot of people own this set, but there are still many that don't. For numerous reasons... they wanted the original set, they couldn't afford it at the time, whatever. So they re-release the SE's with the originals now included and what do they get to try and please everyone?

A headache. Some people will never, ever, EVER be happy.

wildcatlh 05-05-06 05:52 AM

You get the feeling sometimes thet Lucas could sell the OT in a 3-disc set with 5 discs of extras... for $1 ... and there'd be 10 pages of people complaining about the release.

DarthMarino 05-05-06 06:09 AM


Secondly, you have the folks that like the SE's. They *already* own the SE's. So including them in with the OT just means that when they buy them, they *too* have a set of dvd's they have to set aside, useless.
Count me in this camp. I'd like to own the original cuts but know that I'll end up watching the 2004 versions since that's my preference. Re-selling me the same discs I already have makes this less enticing.

0rac 05-05-06 06:26 AM

Are the disc coming with both the non-SE and the SE on them, or a 2 disc set? I have seen both reports on this. IMDB says it does and each disc is $30 each!
Maybe we will get deleted scenes at last!

Fielding Mellish 05-05-06 07:02 AM

Well, looks like Lucas will make a buck off of me at least once during the 21st century. Who'da thunk it?

reverie 05-05-06 07:46 AM

Hmm.. well, I stopped reading at page 12.. way too much bickering for my work day. I've never seen these (and admitting that, should probably not come back in here again! ;) ) and figured if I would, I'd like to see the original versions. So with these coming with the '04 version also, I'll most probably be picking these up. I guess that means I should probably watch the other three also (well, I did see the last one, part three, in theatres.. got drug there by a friend. It was good though).

naitram 05-05-06 08:43 AM

Sweet, now I'll have some backups for my nice bootleg DVDs!

This is shocking news though, I never thought I'd actually be buying Star Wars on DVD. Looks like someone will be getting an SE boxset sans-extra-discs from me for Christmas this year. :eyebrow:

Great news that it's in 2.0 surround, too. Means you'll actually be able to hear the dialogue over the bass.

coli 05-05-06 08:52 AM

For anyone who really knows their stuff on sound and picture, I have a two questions.

The specs list the set as 2.0 Dolby Surround. Now I put my 2004 SE OT in my player last night, and played the 2.0 Dolby Surround, and I have to say I was pleasantly suprised. It wasn't as good as Dolby 5.1, but it was close enough where I really couldn't tell a difference most of the time.

1. Do you think the sound on the O-OT set at 2.0 Surround will be comparable to the 2004 DVD set at 2.0 Surround?

2. Is it definitely going to be Anamorphic Widescreen as listed, because it says they are taking it from the 1993 Laserdisk, and that wasn't Anamorphic. But I suppose they can remaster it to Anamorphic though.

Thanks

bboisvert 05-05-06 08:53 AM

Ooooh... you know what people will bitch about next (and forgive me if I've missed it in the last 15 pages): the spines.

What if the spines on these new DVDs don't match the previous ones and look strange if you put them after Episodes I-III on the shelf? People are going to be screaming for George's blood and indicting him for war crimes.


People obviously have every reason to be mad here -- the stupid greedy bastard is only doing what people have been BEGGING him to do for the past 8 years or so. Obviously, it's because he's an asshole who enjoys upsetting people. Or because he's a isolated billionaire surrounded by yes men. Take your pick.

mzupeman2 05-05-06 09:13 AM

So hes' doing what people have begged him to do. And he now did it. So that makes him more of an ass? I don't understand that logic. You ask for something, you don't get it... I see being upset there. You ask for something and then it happens = mad mad mad? I don't get it.

naitram 05-05-06 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by coli
For anyone who really knows their stuff on sound and picture, I have a two questions.

The specs list the set as 2.0 Dolby Surround. Now I put my 2004 SE OT in my player last night, and played the 2.0 Dolby Surround, and I have to say I was pleasantly suprised. It wasn't as good as Dolby 5.1, but it was close enough where I really couldn't tell a difference most of the time.

1. Do you think the sound on the O-OT set at 2.0 Surround will be comparable to the 2004 DVD set at 2.0 Surround?

2. Is it definitely going to be Anamorphic Widescreen as listed, because it says they are taking it from the 1993 Laserdisk, and that wasn't Anamorphic. But I suppose they can remaster it to Anamorphic though.

Thanks

Well I'm no expert by any means, but in my opinion when it comes to THX-treated mixes in 5.1 or 6.1, the bass is far too heavy, and the center-channel too weak. The dialogue and music end up getting drowned out in the mix. When I got my original laserdisc set back in the day (damn I'm old), I was so blown away by surround sound and the really balanced separation. I can't say the same for some DVDs anymore.

Someone else can tell you better about the anamorphic issue than me, but my bootleg DVDs of the original trilogy, taken from laserdisc, are anamorphic so it can't be too hard. :shrug:


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