Anyone else holding off DVD purchases because of HD/BR?
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Originally Posted by mdnitoil
At the end of the day, a niche title that might only appeal to 5% of the install base will never be released until that install base hits critical mass. This format will be no different than any other format, in that regard.
That's the Way of the World
Galaxina
Night of the Werewolf
Vengeance of the Zombies
I've never heard of them before. I'm pretty sure they qualify as niche titles.
The full press release is here which states:
Reacting immediately to the tremendous demand for HD product and the "sell-out" response to HD-DVD players, BCI, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Navarre Corporation, will be one of the first independent suppliers to release HD programming in both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray format, with its first four titles available this August. The announcement was made today by Ed Goetz, President, BCI.
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Originally Posted by hogfat
Hmm . . . 8mm strikes me as a more or less crap format in terms of resolution. Extrapolating data (http://filmschoolonline.com/sample_l...HD_vs_35mm.htm) 8mm would be somewhere around .25 to .75 "million pixels," well short of 1080 HD.
As for 8mm, I've seen calculations putting 8mm at 1280 x 960 (which was based on Kodak 40, 8mm film which has resolution of about 80 cycles per mm). DVD would limit to less than 960 lines of resolution, so I think HD will be a much better capture.
Also from a site that deals with film-to-DVD transfer:
DVD-R/+R are now the new "low resolution" digital standard of the industry. They do NOT preserver the "high resolution" of your 8mm and 16mm film. If you put your film on DVD-R/+R only, then DON'T THROW AWAY YOUR FILM. You'll need them again -- to transfer them again -- if they can still be transferred in another 5 years!
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Over in the HD-Talk section, there's a thread which says that besides Magnolia another small company is releasing in HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. BCI Eclipse will release these titles as their first 4:
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The only thing I've done lately is not buy the expensive 2-disc versions of most movies when there is a choice.
I'm not convinced that we will see an entire season of a TV show on a single disc. I don't see the studios putting standard definition content (unless it's for supplements) on a disc that has the consumer expectation of HD video. I remember when DVD-Audio was introduced, there was some talk of putting every album by an artist on a single disc. That hasn't happened, and I don't think they'll do it with HD discs.
Of course, it could be done in a homemade fashion with the recordable discs if one were so inclined...
I'm not convinced that we will see an entire season of a TV show on a single disc. I don't see the studios putting standard definition content (unless it's for supplements) on a disc that has the consumer expectation of HD video. I remember when DVD-Audio was introduced, there was some talk of putting every album by an artist on a single disc. That hasn't happened, and I don't think they'll do it with HD discs.
Of course, it could be done in a homemade fashion with the recordable discs if one were so inclined...
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HD is not affecting my buying because I have no HDTV nor will I be able to afford one for years (at least a proper one at a decent size), and wouldn't waste my money on HD or BluRay until there is a clear standard.
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I've been thinking about this recently, and I may have to answer yes.
Even though I may not be getting into an HD format for a year or two, I think it would be best to wait on titles that I know I will want to buy in HD.
The discs are cheaper than I thought they were going to be. They're not that much more expensive than DVDs. In some cases, they're even cheaper compared to certain editions because of the two-tiered release scheme. Why should I pay more for a 2-disc DVD version of something that is available in HD with the same extras? (I'm primarily concerned with the content; I know some will say the packaging is "nicer" on the DVD editions, but I don't really care).
What I think I'm going to do is watch the HD releases, try to form a sense of what titles are going to be released, and from there decide whether I should buy a particular DVD or not. Some more obscure titles that won't make it I'll still get, and things with restrictive schedules like the Disney Platinum editions are safe, but for the most part, I think I'll slow down my DVD purchases and only buy things I really want to have right away (about 3-5 theatrical releases per year would fall into this category).
I don't feel at all that my DVDs are suddenly worthless, or that I'm being "forced" into it. I will continue to enjoy my collection just as I have in the past. After all, the change isn't going to happen overnight, and it will take time for these titles to even be made available. I may even hang on to many of them for portable viewing. I have a feeling that the stronger copy protection is a reason why some aren't so happy about the new format (not necessarily for piracy or sharing reasons, but for being able to watch movies on portable devices without paying again). However, when it comes to new purchases, I'm going to be a lot more careful about what I buy.
The worst that could happen is that neither format really takes off, and then I'll just go back and buy those titles I didn't get on standard DVD later on. By then, they'll certainly be cheaper, and with some of them I may not even have the desire to get at all.
Even though I may not be getting into an HD format for a year or two, I think it would be best to wait on titles that I know I will want to buy in HD.
The discs are cheaper than I thought they were going to be. They're not that much more expensive than DVDs. In some cases, they're even cheaper compared to certain editions because of the two-tiered release scheme. Why should I pay more for a 2-disc DVD version of something that is available in HD with the same extras? (I'm primarily concerned with the content; I know some will say the packaging is "nicer" on the DVD editions, but I don't really care).
What I think I'm going to do is watch the HD releases, try to form a sense of what titles are going to be released, and from there decide whether I should buy a particular DVD or not. Some more obscure titles that won't make it I'll still get, and things with restrictive schedules like the Disney Platinum editions are safe, but for the most part, I think I'll slow down my DVD purchases and only buy things I really want to have right away (about 3-5 theatrical releases per year would fall into this category).
I don't feel at all that my DVDs are suddenly worthless, or that I'm being "forced" into it. I will continue to enjoy my collection just as I have in the past. After all, the change isn't going to happen overnight, and it will take time for these titles to even be made available. I may even hang on to many of them for portable viewing. I have a feeling that the stronger copy protection is a reason why some aren't so happy about the new format (not necessarily for piracy or sharing reasons, but for being able to watch movies on portable devices without paying again). However, when it comes to new purchases, I'm going to be a lot more careful about what I buy.
The worst that could happen is that neither format really takes off, and then I'll just go back and buy those titles I didn't get on standard DVD later on. By then, they'll certainly be cheaper, and with some of them I may not even have the desire to get at all.
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I think it all boils down to $$ .. who has it or who is willing to beat the curve. Since the format wars are being waged at the upper tiers (electronic manufacturers and such) .. some are hedging there bets, but are either sold on HD or Blu-ray or can easily afford a $500 or greater for a player in addition to double dips, just to have it outmoded or a substitution three years down the road (with a limited production release of software). Those that can't will sit back and wait until it all plays out.
Personally, I'm still sitting down to a 27" flatscreen (non-dig) presentation .. but I derive most of my DVD pleasure from sound .. not video. Unless HD can beat it .. not just marginally, then I'm just not interested enough, as I've invested well enough into the software and audio sides.
The other problem is importing. A large percentage of my software collection is imported and I haven't seen enough supplier support of either competing formats. Until this happens, I'm quite satisfied with the continual search of the best audio .. and sometimes video .. DVD support from abroad or stateside. There's just not enough benefit to the investment at this point.
So .. I'll just wait on the side lines and see how it all plays out. No rush here.
Personally, I'm still sitting down to a 27" flatscreen (non-dig) presentation .. but I derive most of my DVD pleasure from sound .. not video. Unless HD can beat it .. not just marginally, then I'm just not interested enough, as I've invested well enough into the software and audio sides.
The other problem is importing. A large percentage of my software collection is imported and I haven't seen enough supplier support of either competing formats. Until this happens, I'm quite satisfied with the continual search of the best audio .. and sometimes video .. DVD support from abroad or stateside. There's just not enough benefit to the investment at this point.
So .. I'll just wait on the side lines and see how it all plays out. No rush here.
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Originally Posted by Harold Wazzu
Plus I'm one of those people who think "dvd is good enough"
I have a 42" screen 10 feet from my viewing area, and a Denon DVD-3910 player. My eyesight is not what it used to be, so DVD is plenty good for me.
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Originally Posted by BuckNaked2k
Whew! I thought I was the only one. I think the DVD format is great - resolution-wise, in terms of HD disc capacity, I will concede.
I have a 42" screen 10 feet from my viewing area, and a Denon DVD-3910 player. My eyesight is not what it used to be, so DVD is plenty good for me.
I have a 42" screen 10 feet from my viewing area, and a Denon DVD-3910 player. My eyesight is not what it used to be, so DVD is plenty good for me.