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Yeti4623 03-26-06 10:29 AM

Frank commentaries
 
What are some commentaries that hold nothing back? Commentaries that surprisingly spill a lot of dirt?

Cameron 03-26-06 10:32 AM

apparently the James Bond Criterion Laserdisc commentaries...since they were pulled because of it. There was some mention of trying to get them podcast a while back but we never got it organized.

majorjoe23 03-26-06 11:35 AM

I was hoping this would be commentaries about the Hulk Hogan movie :(

dvdmongoose 03-26-06 11:38 AM

Yeah, a No Holds Barred commentary would be great! Hulk Hogan, Tiny "Zeus" Lester, Vince McMahon! Hopefully it would come on a DVD.

DVD Giant 03-26-06 04:25 PM

Same here...we need that movie!

T1000 03-26-06 04:45 PM

Freddy Got Fingered. He hardly talks about the film itself then rants about critics calling himugly. He seems very self conscious about everything, still funny, but not what I expected from Tom Green.

TheStoicPaisano 03-26-06 04:47 PM

And the Iron Sheik, to make you humble!

Mr. Salty 03-26-06 04:47 PM

If I can drag this thread kicking and screaming back on topic, I would say Steven Soderbergh's "The Limey" is a good one.

ZakiHasan 03-26-06 05:12 PM

Ron Moore & Brannon Braga on STAR TREK GENERATIONS

Joel Schumacher on BATMAN & ROBIN

Rypro 525 03-26-06 05:58 PM

the mallrats commentary is a good one. alot of time is spent bashing universal because they wouldn't let smith do alot of the dirtier jokes.

dx23 03-26-06 06:13 PM

I heard that in the commentary in the 80's "classic" Private Lessons, the actors and the director pretty much blast the movie throughout the whole deal.

freshticles 03-26-06 07:56 PM

Orgazmo..Cannibal the musical..

the drunken commentaries are hilarious

Bill Geiger 03-26-06 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by majorjoe23
I was hoping this would be commentaries about the Hulk Hogan movie :(

A Zues "Tiny" Lister commentary would rock! :lol:

Dvdlovr24 03-26-06 09:49 PM

Armageddon:CC Ben Affleck just tears the movie down throughout the whole time he is on the commentary. Very funny stuff.

Joe Molotov 03-26-06 10:32 PM

Hunter S. Thompson's commentary on the Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas: CC DVD is pretty crazy. One minute he talks like he likes the movie, but then the next minute he's like "TERRY GILLIAM RUINED MY MOVIE!!!!! HE'S TURNED MY LIFE INTO A CARTOON!!!" Then he just kind of makes some weird noises for a while, and talks about how gay Tobey Maguire is.

Fincher Fan 03-26-06 11:12 PM

I haven't heard them but apparently Uwe Boll will blame anyone and everything in his commentaries.

Smithers 03-26-06 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Molotov
Hunter S. Thompson's commentary on the Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas: CC DVD is pretty crazy. One minute he talks like he likes the movie, but then the next minute he's like "TERRY GILLIAM RUINED MY MOVIE!!!!! HE'S TURNED MY LIFE INTO A CARTOON!!!" Then he just kind of makes some weird noises for a while, and talks about how gay Tobey Maguire is.

haha, i need to check that out

JiM T 03-27-06 01:55 AM

The "Cleopatra" commentary seems to hold little back, particularly when the Mankewitz' are at the mic.

Otherwise, a lot of older films withh historian commentary sound more "no holds barred" than most any new film with a forced director and/or actor commentary, where everyone is still working and therefore careful not to step on any toes or burn any bridges. Even older studio films, like certain WB film noir titles and whatnot, pull significantly fewer punches.

This is a good topic - I'll try to think up more...

Matthew Chmiel 03-27-06 02:24 AM


Originally Posted by Rypro 525
the mallrats commentary is a good one. alot of time is spent bashing universal because they wouldn't let smith do alot of the dirtier jokes.

Not only that, Smith and crew happen to point the finger at specific actors who were terrible to work with. Same applies to the Dogma commentary. On another note, their commentary for the Clerks: Animated Series discs also poke a lot of "hatred" for ABC and the Mouse House in general.

Seantn 03-27-06 04:39 AM

HOUSE OF THE DEAD has a solo commentary with Mark Altman, the writer of the script (which is NOT what ended up on the screen). He tries to keep it classy by never flat out saying "Uwe Boll is the reason this movie sucked!!!"...he keeps saying "Uwe had a very...strong vision for the film...much different than what we realized when we hired him...He definitely had a strong vision, and I have to admire that...but...."

He laughs at quite a few points through the commentary, and even says "Ugh...this is so embarrasing" at one point.

There is one scene which is so silly that he says "I will forever regret not being on set this day, because I never would have let them film this..."

I felt sorry for the guy after listening to it.

Nick Danger 03-27-06 11:52 AM

"Deathstalker II" has a commentary by the director, the star, and the female villain. The three of them were paid some money to watch the movie and reminise, and they have a great time. "We had only three stunt men. That's Bob getting killed. That's Bob again. That's why the enemy soldiers all wear masks." The director points out car in the background. He gets exasperated by other footage that was spliced into his movie. "God this is boring." During a fight scene he says "We tried to shoehorn every fight cliche we could think of into this scene. Oh, there's the knife throw!"

When the evil princess is being extra bitchy, they all say that she wasn't acting. :D

ShagMan 03-27-06 12:39 PM

Kurt Wimmer's commentary on Equilibrium was very honest. He starts out the commentary by letting everybody listening know about all the trash-talking he got regarding the other movies he ripped off, for example The Matrix. He also talks about how tiny the movie's budget was, which puts things in perspective.

Mondo Kane 03-27-06 12:43 PM

Abel Ferrara tends to walk a thin line.

NatrlBornThrllr 03-27-06 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
Not only that, Smith and crew happen to point the finger at specific actors who were terrible to work with. Same applies to the Dogma commentary. On another note, their commentary for the Clerks: Animated Series discs also poke a lot of "hatred" for ABC and the Mouse House in general.

Yeah, I know he hated working with Linda Fiorentino, so I don't doubt that he pokes at her during the Dogma commentary.

JM1 03-27-06 02:48 PM

Commentaries
 
Jack Sholder's commentary on The Hidden.

Totally honest, reveals the drawbacks of shooting low budget movies, lays into some of the bit part actors in a you-get-what-you-pay-for fashion, and obviously did not hit it off with Michael Nouri at all.

One of my all time favorite commentaries.

Class316 03-27-06 03:23 PM

The South Park S1 commentaries were pulled as well.

On another note, I have a DVD of the Hulk Hogan movie. It’s awesome! It is copied from the LD. It sits nicely with my Song of the South DVD, Bladerunner criterion DVD, and Star Wars Holiday Special DVD, among others :D

The Lizard King 03-30-06 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by Cameron
apparently the James Bond Criterion Laserdisc commentaries...since they were pulled because of it. There was some mention of trying to get them podcast a while back but we never got it organized.

I recently authored Dr. No, From Russia With Love, and Goldfinger using the OOP SE DVD anamorphic transfers with the normal DD 2.0 soundtracks and the DD 2.0 MGM commentaries; I added the Criterion Collection banned commentaries as a third (and in the case of Goldfinger, a fourth) audio track. They are perfectly synced to the films and the exact OOP SE DVD chapter stops have been preserved. I'm very happy with them!

TLK :cool:

Chrisedge 03-30-06 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by The Lizard King
I recently authored Dr. No, From Russia With Love, and Goldfinger using the OOP SE DVD anamorphic transfers with the normal DD 2.0 soundtracks and the DD 2.0 MGM commentaries; I added the Criterion Collection banned commentaries as a third (and in the case of Goldfinger, a fourth) audio track. They are perfectly synced to the films and the exact OOP SE DVD chapter stops have been preserved. I'm very happy with them!

TLK :cool:

Sounds nice. I have the original C.C. lasers of Dr. No, and FRWL, but could never find Goldfinger.

The Lizard King 03-30-06 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by Chrisedge
Sounds nice. I have the original C.C. lasers of Dr. No, and FRWL, but could never find Goldfinger.

That's funny. One just ended on eBay this afternoon:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=9118471627

TLK :cool:

surfingelectrod 03-30-06 07:50 PM

The commentaries for The Andy Milonakis Show Season 1 were really funny. One episode had a NY Times reporter bashing the show, another was a video commentary of Ralphie trying to eat an entire pizza within the duration of one episode (he did), Andy and Ralphie rapping for an entire episode, and the cast speaking gibberish for half of an episode. Some of the funniest commentaries I've seen in a while.

Egon's Ghost 04-01-06 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by Mondo Kane
Abel Ferrara tends to walk a thin line.

I've seen him on...maybe Conan, Leno, dunno...and he's either insane, drunk, or both.

bjh_18 04-02-06 12:49 AM

The commentary on The Sum of All Fears with Tom Clancy and the director, Phil Alden Robinson, is a favorite of mine. Clancy spends most of the track railing on Robinson for making drastic changes from the book, pointing out every few minutes that the government wouldn't do it that way, or saying that the military would never use that type of equiptment for certain things that happen in the film. Robinson spends most of the track attempting to defend himself and the changes. I'm a huge fan of Clancy's books, and The Sum of All Fears is one of his best, but they really butchered the film and made it completely sub-par (neo-nazis, having a young Jack Ryan just starting out in the CIA). I was surprised by the commentary track, and I thought it was fantastic.

Abob Teff 04-02-06 01:19 AM

The aforementioned Clerks: The Animated Series commentary does take some potshots, but I think that it still comes off a little restrained . . .

I was a little disappointed with the "critics" commentaries on the Matrix boxset. The concept was that they were supposed to be critics who hated the films, but they sure didn't come off that way.

What about the Driller Killer commentary? I think that's the one (I always mess this up) where the director gets pissed and storms out during the movie.

Cameron 04-02-06 01:30 AM


Originally Posted by The Lizard King
I recently authored Dr. No, From Russia With Love, and Goldfinger using the OOP SE DVD anamorphic transfers with the normal DD 2.0 soundtracks and the DD 2.0 MGM commentaries; I added the Criterion Collection banned commentaries as a third (and in the case of Goldfinger, a fourth) audio track. They are perfectly synced to the films and the exact OOP SE DVD chapter stops have been preserved. I'm very happy with them!

TLK :cool:

very cool...i'd love to hear these. I have heard several people talk about these. Glad to see someone put some effort into preserving them.

Mondo Kane 04-02-06 03:20 AM


Originally Posted by Abob Teff
What about the Driller Killer commentary? I think that's the one (I always mess this up) where the director gets pissed and storms out during the movie.

Well, I wasn't one to see this in theaters, but supposedly different versions have been made for different markets.

*Slight Spoiler*

I heard that one version was to have the last frame of film to be filled with blood-red being accompanied by a woman's scream. But the DVD released by Cult Epics (With Abel Ferrara commentary) just ends in pitch black.
He voices his displeasure at the sight of this, but I always assumed this was how he envisioned it while filming it initially (Though he could have different feelings nowdays as was evident in his commentary which was recorded several years ago) So what's the real deal?

And as for "storming out", well, he didn't exactly go with the familar routine of "Thank you for listening, this is Abel Ferarra. Hope you enjoyed it" on his track for King of New York. It's like once the movie ends, he's out...With a song!

mikewendt 04-02-06 01:30 PM

Jeremy Piven's track on PCU is a little bitter towards the director, mostly due to him not alowing the actors to do any improving... He mentions it more then a few times in reference to why the flick wasn't as funny as it could've been.

Julie Walker 04-02-06 01:44 PM

So what is in the Bond Criterion commentaries? Are they really 'banned' or is that just urban legend/gossip and they are just not available now because Criterion rarely leases out their features(or did originally)?

The Lizard King 04-02-06 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by Julie Walker
So what is in the Bond Criterion commentaries? Are they really 'banned' or is that just urban legend/gossip and they are just not available now because Criterion rarely leases out their features(or did originally)?

Some of the comments from Terrence Young and Guy Hamilton use certain phrases related to sexuality (and the sex act itself) -- some rather politically-incorrect phrases in this day in age -- that I doubt highly if they would be used in a commercial DVD release of today. The story goes that the comments so incensed Albert R. "Cubby" Broccoli that he had Criterion pull them from circulation and simply re-release all three films in CLV, bare-bones format.

TLK :cool:

Yeti4623 04-02-06 02:48 PM

I don't know if this counts, but I've never seen so much old fashion bashing before, than the License to Drive commentary, by the Director and Writer. I've seen lots that take a shot or two, but these guys take the cake.

mikewendt 04-02-06 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by Yeti4623
I don't know if this counts, but I've never seen so much old fashion bashing before, than the License to Drive commentary, by the Director and Writer. I've seen lots that take a shot or two, but these guys take the cake.

Haven't heard this one... Any examples?


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