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Old 12-04-07 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay G.
I've seen it too, you posted screenshots a few pages back.

And why do you keep missing my point that I don't have to see the whole colorized version, or see it at all to pass judgment on it? I don't have to see a FS transfer of a WS film, or a dubbed version of a foreign language film, to know that it's not the way I want to see the film. I don't see why it has to be any different for colorization.
What you are effectively saying is that there should never be any intelligent discussion of the technical or artistic merits of colourized films on DVD because you and others have decreed they are evil. All threads on the subject should only serve as a platform for the nay-sayers to endlessly repeat their sanctimonious condemnations. By the same logic, there should never be any threads on torture porn flicks because I personally find them "abhorrent" and evolution should not be taught in American schools (which it wasn't for the longest time).

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Old 12-04-07 | 11:11 AM
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What about you folks relax a bit with a nice comedy ? [ in color now :-) ]

I Love Lucy and Bob Hope:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSmu7...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4VCw...eature=related

I Love Lucy Desilu Studios

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeIPI...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYDS2...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaFjq...eature=related


Split scren demo: http://www.newsday.com/entertainment...,7612540.story

Would be bether if Lucy's hair was blonde??????????
We know she had red hair, but if they budget to shot the show in color film, would they keeped the red hair?

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Old 12-04-07 | 01:04 PM
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Alfred, if you're going to interrupt with silly comedies, you might as well make it an example of fine French colourization (La cuisine au beurre, 1963) with Fernandel:

<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Q-TyVnD5sT0&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Q-TyVnD5sT0&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/nm3Ly58n96I&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/nm3Ly58n96I&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>
Old 12-04-07 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by baracine
Alfred, if you're going to interrupt with silly comedies, you might as well make it an example of fine French colourization (La cuisine au beurre, 1963) with Fernandel:
Don't take me wrong in such negativism. Why not relax a a bit?
Seens like you folks are taking the discussion too seriously.
Old 12-04-07 | 07:28 PM
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By the way the videos from this french comedy are looking a bit worse than the old screen captures you did, Baracine :-)
Old 12-04-07 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by baracine
What you are effectively saying is that there should never be any intelligent discussion of the technical or artistic merits of colourized films on DVD because you and others have decreed they are evil.
No, I'm saying that trying to have "any intelligent discussion of the technical or artistic merits of colourized films," while at the same time trying to silence the negative opinions based on artistic principle, is oxymoronic and absurd. The opinions of those opposed to colorization are just as valid as those in favor of it.

I never said nobody could discuss whatever they wanted in this thread, and in fact I haven't tried to stop anyone. I've just been responding to the comments that I felt needed addressing. That you mischaracterize what I've said so egregiously speaks more about your own feelings towards free speech than it does mine. From my vantage point, the only ones trying to be silenced are the naysayers.
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Old 12-05-07 | 07:30 PM
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Folks, now without intention to be anoying, but I think that's perfectly possible to discuss the polemic about film colorization if both sides, the color favorables, and the againt it, could discuss with more open minds, instead of just fervorous try to make the point on the discussion.
No ofense to anybody... I respect both sides , which have had interesting points of view. I just think you both could try to understand more the motives of the each other.
Old 12-08-07 | 01:34 PM
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Very early color photography: http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=28y64Y6vlIo
Old 01-10-08 | 01:13 PM
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New colorization but with weird skin color:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRe...ng_saucers.htm

Legend tends to get weird skin color for B Films. I don't know why.

I did a modification in this capute to try get a bether skin color for the woman on the left.



The DVD authoring seens wrong since the image detail levels seens lower compared with the anterior version. But the authoring wasn't made by Legend Films. I presume the colorized master HD from Legend films have the bether image quality than any other.
Old 01-10-08 | 08:16 PM
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Having seen the entire B&W version over the holiday, it's easily one of the best B&W DVDs out there. Here's to hoping a BluRay eventually comes out since it should look even better than Casablanca (which didn't have a nearly complete nitrate camera negative like IAWL). The original mono sound was amazingly clear, too.

More proof how all a black and white classic needs is a cleaned untampered transfer without the silly needless effort of color and 5.1 remixing.
Old 01-10-08 | 08:23 PM
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My father and I usually watch IAWL every X-mas eve. This year we decided to try out the bastardi, er... colorized version. Well, about 6 minutes in I said we had to change it. I don't care how good of a job they do colorizing a film like that, you just aren't capturing the essence of the film and the emotional impact it possesses unless you're watching it in glorious black and white. It was fun to watch as some kind of weird experiment but I can safely say it will never touch my player again.
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Watermarks on GettyImages databank.

Does anybody have access top Getty Images files without watermark?

There are grat images there, but I can't get the versions without watermark to colorize:




This is the famous screwball comedies actress Carole Lombard
Old 03-25-08 | 11:45 PM
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Here a colorization I did from a early Photography of the young Jimmy (James) Stewart.

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Finally a colorization of Charles Chaplin, as Carlitos:


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