You lived it!?! Wow!



Which underground sex club did you get the enema in?

LMAO!

Your quote doesn't make any sense, but I tell you what! why don't you get the intitiative to create, and produce your own movies to your specific enthrallment, to eliminate querulous
statements, and situations pertaining to other director's films, which you have no influential control over. Your impudent quotation concerning my personal life, there is only one supreme being who has the power to officially judge me, at Judgment Day, is my almighty, sovereign God. Especially not you.
So if you have any comparative, impertinent remarks, I suggest that you personally email me to continue this discussion. And if not... THEN ZIP IT!

sounds like the notorious back room scenes from "Cruising"

There was a similiar scene in Paul Schrader's 'Auto Focus' that was also censored due to hardcore footage.

I was expecting this! No I was not involve in any official sex club. I use to frequent, and patronize sexual oriented establishments almost daily. The film has partial similarity to my past life, not all. But I've been delivered from this lifestyle through the grace of God. Even though, the movie is fictitious, actually there are people in this world who are currently living, or has previously lived that sordid lifestyle.

glad God sorted you out... so... why are you watching this smut out anyway?

Meh.

Those backroom/bar scenes in "Cruising" are like a Disneyfied version of the real thing.

This is why I liked 8MM. It was one of a very few movies that really stuck with me after watching it. It seems to have that affect on some people. It did a great job of showing the seedy porno underworld-- makes you feel unclean after watching it. I assume that's what the director was going for and he succeeded. That's why I enjoyed it-- it was uncomfortable to watch at times, but I still liked it. And that's why I think an unrated version would benefit this movie-- because the cut scenes would set the atmosphere even more. Especially judging from the cut scenes that Julie listed.

Oh yea, and I tend to like movies with Nicolas Cage in them.

EDIT: Forgot to add that I know there are people who are currently living or have lived this sordid lifestyle... that makes the movie that much more unsettling. I really liked this movie. Yet I feel like one poster who said that he often feels like he's the only one who liked this movie...

My perspective that 8 MM would have a much greater impact, with the edited scenes included on the viewing audience, if it was filmed as a full length documentary, rather than a movie.

I put 8MM in the same catagory as HARDCORE. They are entertaining films, but have a naive, rather laughable, view of the "underground" porn industry (which of course, we all know is closely related to all those snuff films that are out there )

Still, both films are kind of a guilty pleasure for me, and I wouldn't mind seeing a stronger cut of 8MM.

Thank you, and a very good question indeed! The reason why I watched this genre of a movie is because it appears as semi-autobiographical to me, pertaining to the debauchery of various sexual illicit activities that I've had indulge, and participated in at very secluded and solitary places.

... I guess we all better stop talking here, since we can't influence those directors and all.

On topic, watched 8mm 2 last night. Wow. Terrible friggin' movie, but it definitely earned its "Unrated" status. It even contained a scene featuring Sandy (from ClubSandy.com) "orally pleasuring" another girl. And not the simulated kind. Surprising from a movie that is sold at Walmart.

i didn't care much for 8mm, but are you telling me you have first hand knowledge of 70's underground porn industry, in particular TJ Films? I think you'd rethink what you said.

There is a great book on TJ hardcore films from the 70's entitled " LOST SOULS" which is hard to find, and goes for $300+ on ebay when it does appear. Hardcore predates the book, but Schrader was dead on with a lot of scenes and stories from the book.

there's pics and stills from films, and accounts from people involved, and like in hardcore, there was quite a few ucla, and usc film school grads involved in the making, and some young film students give their accounts, and how they were even held hostage in the movement.