Widescreen Better than Fullscreen An Opinion
11-04-05, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
Because we shouldn't have to check to make sure we don't accidentally buy the foolscreen release (since there shouldn't even be one to begin with), or have a movie come out ONLY that way. Make them watch it the right way or not at all. And yes, I am an elitist bastard.
11-04-05, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Brett44
A person has to be pretty stupid if they "accidentally" buy a fullscreen dvd.
I guess I'm "pretty stupid" then.
I've done it a couple of times in the past, and all I had to do was swap it out for the WS version. My mistake, but I don't consider myself "stupid" for it.
I'm a widescreen/OAR advocate, but it can happen if you're not paying attention.
Thanks for a broad, sweeping generalization that labels me as stupid. Nice.
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11-04-05, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Brett44
I like to watch my movies in OAR, I could care less what anyone else watches in their own homes. I have no idea why some of you get so worked up because a total stranger wants to watch movies in fullscreen. Why do you care?
Example - WalMart. When I bought Ep III, I also wanted Ep II. Seemed like more than 3/4 of Ep II were fullscreen. I got a widescreen copy. But a few days later, back at the same store, I noticed all that remained were fullscreen.
11-04-05, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by radewagon
It's not as big a deal as people make it out to be because the average viewer doesn't care.
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11-04-05, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Brett44
I like to watch my movies in OAR, I could care less what anyone else watches in their own homes. I have no idea why some of you get so worked up because a total stranger wants to watch movies in fullscreen. Why do you care?
11-04-05, 01:04 PM
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I too watch the occasional FS and don't mind terribly. I do, however, have to ask myself, "Self, is this what the director had in mind when he/she shot the film?"
11-04-05, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
Because we shouldn't have to check to make sure we don't accidentally buy the foolscreen release (since there shouldn't even be one to begin with), or have a movie come out ONLY that way. Make them watch it the right way or not at all. And yes, I am an elitist bastard.
11-04-05, 02:43 PM
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I don't care what others want to buy, but when I'm in Walmart and they only stock Foolscreen because "that's what people want" - I have a problem. This happened to me this week with "Office Space". They didn't even get the Wide Screen IN.
11-04-05, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ShadeRF
So I go to Wally World this morning to pick up Episode 3 and several people were there to pick up the movie. A lady walked up to the kiosk and asked the people standing around if she should get fullscreen or widescreen. The guy standing there pipes in and states "Get fullscreen, it shows more picture and you don't have those annoying black bars on the top and bottom. I of course piped in and explained that in fact in this case the widescreen showed more picture. I was then advised that "That's your opinion" I of course went through explaining why widescreen is superior to the fullscreen transfer but in his stubborness he stated "You are wrong" and walked away with fullscreen copy in hand. Thankfully the lady who asked the question goes "Well... I guess I'll be getting the widescreen copy" Some people will just never get it I guess.
11-04-05, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Roy Batty
I too watch the occasional FS and don't mind terribly. I do, however, have to ask myself, "Self, is this what the director had in mind when he/she shot the film?"
That said, I always go OAR/widescreen because I don't want to watch a distorted image. But I'm not doing it because I want to somehow honor the "director's intent."
11-04-05, 03:28 PM
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You've got to remember that these shoppers were in Wal-Mart, and they were buying a Star Wars movie produced and released after 1983... of course they're going to be resistive to logic. 
Ah, this whole thread makes me pine for the Letterschlocking FAQ.... http://web.archive.org/web/200402181.../savetele.html
Ah, this whole thread makes me pine for the Letterschlocking FAQ.... http://web.archive.org/web/200402181.../savetele.html
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11-04-05, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by radewagon
Last time I posted, some person told me I should be banned for life because I had a contrary opinion to his/hers. Hopefully this won't happen again. Anyway, personally, I prefer widescreen (or OAR for fullscreen vids). The key word is prefer. That's all it really is, a preference.
11-04-05, 06:19 PM
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Funny how whenever somebody doesn't agree with you then that makes them "stupid". I prefer OAR over any other format and tend to not by modified titles. That being said, why is it when people say "I hate those black bars" then that makes them stupid? What they are really saying is "I'd rather give up some image on the edges of the screen than watch a smaller (or really smaller) picture on my current TV. What's wrong with that? They probably bought the largest screen that they could afford and they don't want to watch tiny images on it - even if those images look more look what the movie looked like in the theatre.
I think that people that don't get that this is an acceptable opinion are the "stupid" one that need "educating".
I think that people that don't get that this is an acceptable opinion are the "stupid" one that need "educating".
11-05-05, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Peep
That being said, why is it when people say "I hate those black bars" then that makes them stupid?
11-05-05, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob
No, what makes them stupid is that these people believe the top and bottom of the picture are cut off, to make the movie wide and not square.
11-05-05, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob
No, what makes them stupid is that these people believe the top and bottom of the picture are cut off, to make the movie wide and not square.
11-05-05, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by radewagon
Last time I posted, some person told me I should be banned for life because I had a contrary opinion to his/hers. Hopefully this won't happen again. Anyway, personally, I prefer widescreen (or OAR for fullscreen vids). The key word is prefer. That's all it really is, a preference. I won't insult a person because they choose fullscreen over widescreen. It's not as big a deal as people make it out to be because the average viewer doesn't care. Because when you watch a movie in fullscreen, you're not really losing as much as we'd like to think you are (us being movie obsessed and all). Let's see: Fullscreen. Is the script in tact? Yes. Are the actors acting? Yes. Is the setting there? Yup. Is the sound there? Yup too. I remember growing up with the star wars trilogy in only fullscreen versions. In fact, the new dvds were the first time that I was able to see the original aspect ratio on all three films. And I've seen the comparison shots. They are very very different. But until watching the widescreen versions, I didn't realize any of this and I certainly didn't care. Not being able to see both luke and vader in the same shot while they faught in bespin didn't prevent my brain from filling in the gaps. Fullscreen doesn't destroy a movie because a movie is comprised of so many things. Fullscreen only destroys composition. For me, that's a big deal (even on my 13" TV). For others, composition might not be worth turning an already tiny TV into an even smaller one. And that's their prefernce. No need to call them stupid for not agreeing with you.
11-06-05, 01:57 AM
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toddly6666,
He doesnt like the black bars because he believes it removes some of the image.
Its like arguing with a religous fanatic, you can try explaining to them till hell freezes over and will never ever change their mind.
He doesnt like the black bars because he believes it removes some of the image.
Its like arguing with a religous fanatic, you can try explaining to them till hell freezes over and will never ever change their mind.
11-06-05, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by kenbuzz
Ah, this whole thread makes me pine for the Letterschlocking FAQ.... http://web.archive.org/web/200402181.../savetele.html
11-06-05, 01:37 PM
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It's going to go on and on for as long as they produce 4:3 TV sets. Get them off the shelves and people won't want to buy foolscreen DVDs anymore because they'll have bars on the sides.
Unfortunately, for as long as Joe Average can walk into any Walmart or electronics store and pick up a noname 27 inch set for less than $200, they're going to keep buying them, and they're going to want FS discs to watch on 'em.
Unfortunately, for as long as Joe Average can walk into any Walmart or electronics store and pick up a noname 27 inch set for less than $200, they're going to keep buying them, and they're going to want FS discs to watch on 'em.
11-06-05, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by sureAV421
yeah but when 16:9 sets become standard, there is going to be "full screen" versions of 2.35:1 movies.