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Old 09-22-05 | 06:04 PM
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The sad thing about IV is that over 40 minutes was removed which would have made one of the worst editied movies of all time...make a lot more sense. I have heard searches have been made but apparently no one involved with the film has any knowledge of what became of the lost footage. The script and some stills are all that remain. What a wonderful tribute it would be to the memory of Christopher Reeve if this movie could have been restored to it's original running time.
I don't know how we can know it would be any great tribute; it may make it an even worse film than it is. I'm willing to watch it once in awhile just to see more of Reeve in the role, but we're talking every 3 or 4 years.

What the real shame is, they didn't find a better direction in which to go after the first two movies; if I recall correctly, Reeve initially signed a deal to do like 7 Superman movies when he did the first one. III has it's moments, but the thing is so campy it's hard to push them out of the way.....
Old 09-22-05 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rennervision
In Superman III, deep beneath the surface there is a good movie trying to get out. But the evil Superman story arc is too short. A potential romantic triangle with Lana and Lois is presented in the dullest possible way.
The Lana/Lois rivalry could have been alot of fun to watch, especially if they had continued with it in IV and movies after- I would have enjoyed it just to see Lois in a position where she had to feel like she had competition, rather than her feeling like she had Clark on a string there for the taking whenever she wanted to have him. O'Toole gave Lana some class and allowed the audience to see Clark as admired for who he was as a person rather than having to be Superman in order to be considered more than a schmuck.
Old 09-23-05 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by nightmaster
The Lana/Lois rivalry could have been alot of fun to watch, especially if they had continued with it in IV and movies after- I would have enjoyed it just to see Lois in a position where she had to feel like she had competition, rather than her feeling like she had Clark on a string there for the taking whenever she wanted to have him. O'Toole gave Lana some class and allowed the audience to see Clark as admired for who he was as a person rather than having to be Superman in order to be considered more than a schmuck.
I agree. It's a shame that SUPERMAN III just became bogged down with scenes featuring Richard Pryor and that the relationship between Clark and Lana was dragged out so slowly.

I really hope that Lois doesn't have a kid in SUPERMAN RETURNS.
Old 09-23-05 | 02:55 PM
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I really hope that Lois doesn't have a kid in SUPERMAN RETURNS.
Too late.
Old 09-23-05 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rennervision
A potential romantic triangle with Lana and Lois is presented in the dullest possible way.
Tell me about it, though they would have to have recast Lois to make it really exciting.
Old 09-23-05 | 03:39 PM
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Mulan darling.
U = I ??
Old 09-23-05 | 08:02 PM
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Double dips on single discs I dont mind, but when they double dip on BOX SETS that gets annoying. I own both the Superman Collection and Batman Legacy now they come out with better sets for both (not to mention teh Rocky box set, which I did double dip on). Cant even ebay them because theyll only sell for $20 at most. They should give a nice discount on the new sets with a proof of purchase from the old ones.
Old 09-24-05 | 03:08 AM
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Great! Gonna double dip on the sequel SE's. My Superman SE is in snapper case and the sequel SE's will likely be in keepcases though. Probably have to keep the whole Superman collection box and place the sequel SE's next to it.
Old 09-25-05 | 02:06 PM
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Great! Gonna double dip on the sequel SE's. My Superman SE is in snapper case and the sequel SE's will likely be in keepcases though. Probably have to keep the whole Superman collection box and place the sequel SE's next to it.
Chances are pretty good that you'll be able to buy the set with the first movie included as cheaply as you could buy the sequels separately.
Old 09-25-05 | 02:11 PM
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I agree. It's a shame that SUPERMAN III just became bogged down with scenes featuring Richard Pryor and that the relationship between Clark and Lana was dragged out so slowly.
Lana grew up with Clark so she would have known him as just a fella since they were children, which I guess is why I think she would have treated him much better than Lois does in the movies- Lana has known him for so much longer without the Superman connection degrading her attitude towards him as Clark.
Old 09-25-05 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by nightmaster
Lana grew up with Clark so she would have known him as just a fella since they were children, which I guess is why I think she would have treated him much better than Lois does in the movies- Lana has known him for so much longer without the Superman connection degrading her attitude towards him as Clark.
The crappiness of SUPERMAN III just confirms my opinion that all the good parts in SUPERMAN II are due to Donner's vision, and the lackluster sections are due to Lester's creative imprint.

It's hard to believe how bad SUPERMAN III is compared to the previous movies. However, The San Jose Mercury News and Time Magazine did give it a rave when it first premiered.
Old 09-26-05 | 01:04 AM
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The only good thing about Superman III - and the one reason I own it - is the Evil Superman vs. Clark Kent battle in the junkyard. The rest is just an embarassing mess. IV has no redeeming qualities whatsoever (and I doubt the deleted footage would somehow magically transform it into a decent film).
Old 09-26-05 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DieselsDen
I agree. It's a shame that SUPERMAN III just became bogged down with scenes featuring Richard Pryor and that the relationship between Clark and Lana was dragged out so slowly.

I really hope that Lois doesn't have a kid in SUPERMAN RETURNS.

To this day, I have no idea why didn't go for Superman vs Brainiac in III instead of a generic supercomputer.
Old 09-26-05 | 02:48 PM
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To this day, I have no idea why didn't go for Superman vs Brainiac in III instead of a generic supercomputer.
Interestingly, that was the suggestion for SUPERMAN III when it was in early development. They also wanted to throw in Mr. MXYZPTLK (presumably, in a role similar to Pryor's Gus Gorman) in the mix.

However, the screenwriters, Leslie and the late David Newman, decided to go for "original" characters rather than spend time establishing the origins of the comic book villains. (All of this can be found in a STARLOG magazine article circa 1983.) All I can say is that ANYTHING would have been better than characters like "Ross Webster" or "Lorelei Ambrosia" filling the screen.
Old 09-30-05 | 12:26 PM
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Hmm... I thought someone would have posted this by now:

From The Digital Bits Rumor Mill:

"Also today, there are online reports from various Superman-themed websites (including Superman Cinema) that Warner Bros. and producer Ilya Salkind have finally negotiated a deal for the release of director Richard Donner's original unused footage from Superman II. This would allow for the creation of a long-awaited Superman II: Director's Cut that would be closer to the film Donner was crafting before the film was taken away from him by the studio back in 1979 and given to replacement director Richard Lester. Donner, as many of you know, also directed the original Superman: The Movie (the two films were shot, for the most part, simultaneously). The idea behind all of this, of course, is that Warner wants to release new DVD special editions of Superman II, Superman III and Superman IV: The Quest for Peace in conjunction with the theatrical or DVD debut of Bryan Singer's currently in production Superman Returns. The new film is expected to hit theaters in June 2006."

Make sure and click the link to Superman Cinema (the same site the OP linked to). There is some more information citing that Donner is not going to be involved in the Superman II SE or DC (if there is one).
Old 10-07-05 | 02:42 PM
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It will only be Superman 1 and 2 for me. The others are no good.
Old 10-07-05 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by nightmaster
I don't know how we can know it would be any great tribute; it may make it an even worse film than it is. I'm willing to watch it once in awhile just to see more of Reeve in the role, but we're talking every 3 or 4 years.
When I was younger, it was the only one that ever seemed to show up on tv, so I watched it like three or four times in one year just because it was superman. Then they showed 1 and 2 a few times and have not seen it again.
Old 10-07-05 | 10:08 PM
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Not making a cheap shot...is there an explanation of Superman's power - where can just make look at the great wall of China and fix it............
Old 10-07-05 | 10:33 PM
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Not making a cheap shot...is there an explanation of Superman's power - where can just make look at the great wall of China and fix it............
Not really, but the movie is based on the "pre-crisis" Superman, which had alot more powers than the current Superman, who simply has the "classic" powers. In 1985, DC rebooted their continuity and stripped their heroes down to their core elements, this was called "Crisis on Infinite Earths."
Old 10-09-05 | 11:30 PM
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Interestingly, that was the suggestion for SUPERMAN III when it was in early development. They also wanted to throw in Mr. MXYZPTLK (presumably, in a role similar to Pryor's Gus Gorman) in the mix.
Getting Pryor was definitely an attempt to bring Pryor fans to the theatres, as he was pretty hot stuff during that time period. I guess that kind of likens to what the Batman movies did, bringing in big names for the villians. I would have much rather seen a Brainiac and Mr. MXYZPTLK combination in III....and as for IV, how about Bizarro instead of that idiot in the red suit?
Old 10-09-05 | 11:37 PM
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If SUPERMAN IV had not been produced by Cannon (who purchased the rights from the Salkinds) and even more importantly didn't have its budget sliced and diced, it would probably be less hated than SUPERMAN III. Frankly, I dislike III more than IV, because at least IV had a heart. SUPERMAN III just felt cynical and lifeless. Also, Nuclear Man was campier than hell, but he still beats Ross Webster.

Like others on the board, I am far more interested in seeing the missing Donner footage from SUPERMAN II than anything else. Here's hoping that Warners do what they can to pull this off. Otherwise, we may never get to see it in the future. (Then again, there is HD-DVD to consider...)
Old 10-09-05 | 11:40 PM
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a heart yes....a cold black heart
Old 10-10-05 | 02:49 AM
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If they would just include the junkyard battle scene as an extra on I or II then I'd have no need for III at all.
Old 10-10-05 | 11:16 PM
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a heart yes....a cold black heart
Actually, I think of it more of a heart in need of a quadruple bypass.
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if they release the donner re-cut will the old version still be included too (via branching?) or will the current release be the only way to see the old superman 2?


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