I just want the originals :(

Yeah, I seem to remember a similar reaction at the theater when I went to see it with my ol' man back in '80. I think I too was like, "WTF!", well, maybe not WTF (as I was only 6 at the time), but it was shocking to see the Episode V nomenclature in the crawl.

Right buddy boy so Episode IV: Star Wars isn't that good for the original 1977 right? Forget the episodes, like in the many movie guides i've seen, it's The Empire Strikes Back, look in the E alphabetically, not a S or an E. Ridiculous i tell you.

Do you believe miscellaneous "movie guides" over the movie itself? The title that appears in the movie is (and always has been) Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back.

Not to mention that the poster you put at the beginning of the thread clearly has the words "Star Wars" in the logo.

This is how I understand it. The original film was called Star Wars. Nothing more. Just Star Wars. When it premiered in 1977, the opening crawl had no episode number or subtitle. Watch the documentary footage on the fourth disc of the Star Wars Trilogy DVD set; shows the crawl as it appeared in 1977.

Just before the theatrical release of TESB in 1980, Lucas re-released Star Wars with something new (one of the first modifications). That was the first time audiences saw Episode IV: A New Hope tacked onto the title. Lucas wanted to do this for the 1977 release, but the studio believed Episode IV would confuse people.

Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back and Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi have always been the official titles for those films. Through the years they have also been known more widely as The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. That's how I identified them when I was a kid. Movie posters and home video releases have featured various alternative titles on the packages. Like Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back and Star Wars: Return of the Jedi.

I don't think any release of ANH on home video has the opening crawl in its original form, though, and certainly none would after its theatrical re-release.

--THX

George Lucas a/k/a Darth Procrastinator will probably only do it when he's dead.

He'll haunt everyone from the grave (via his last will & testament) and release them individually and drag that process out. Then a few years later he'll have left word to release them as a boxed set.....but by that time we'll all be dead and gone.....then maybe, just maybe, our ancestors will finally be able to enjoy what we had waited for all of our lives.

Actually, "Episode IV: A New Hope" was added after the release of "The Empire Strikes Back." The new title was first seen in the April '81 theatrical re-release of "Star Wars."

Didn't we go over this already?

I saw all three films in the theaters, kiddo. The original Star Wars had no episode number, but the other two films certainly did.

GROUCHO is absolutely correct. NO Episode IV in the original opening crawl. I'll also let you in on a little secret. In 1979, I bought a "gasp" VHS bootleg of "Star Wars" and I still have it, with the original crawl! Picture quality is crap but hey, we didn't know if it would EVER be released to home video back then. Bootlegs have always served a purpose and they always will. They satisfy the little "Veruca Salt" in all of us.

Pardon me. You're right. Thought the original film had its second theatrical run prior to the release of TESB. Hadn't researched it enough.

Yes, but then I muddied the waters with a slight misunderstanding. Now I'm clear. :)

--THX

Lucas already stated on 60 Minutes that there will be no more Star Wars films, period. So any rumors you read on the net are nothing more than fanboy wishing and rumor mongering. It's not going to happen.

Will he release the originals? The answer is NO! Just trying to keep you and others from getting your hopes up. He's not going to release them now or in the future. But I'm sure when the box set comes out and the originals aren't included, we'll have to go through the whining all over again.

Nobody said it was impossible, only that 9 out of 10 fans who claimed they wouldn't buy it, were lying through their teeth, despite their denials.

The rights will pass to his children however, and you can bet they know his wishes, not to mention the fact he'll have it detailed in his will. I can't imagine he wouldn't.

http://mariah.stonemarche.org/favlinks/pigs_fly.jpg

:lol: That's about the size of it.

I suggest establishing your own country, then establishing a film production company in that country, acquiring the rights to distribute Star Wars, then create and distribute the original versions.

Or you can always [BANNED].

BZZT. Wrong. While ANH was originally released theatrically without the Episode IV and ANH text, every version of ESB has had the Episode V text.

Ah, it just wouldn't be a SW thread without Terrell showing up and CLAIMING that a certain number of OT fanboys said something. At least you stated it properly this time, that it was "said" that fans claimed they wouldn't buy it, not that they actually said it. Get over the rant, boyo.

I think I'll just put it as simply as "NO"

Yes, well, for many us those dreams were shat and pissed on. Therefore I call "Star Wars" by its original name.

for the 1,000,000 time -- NO.

Can we have a sticky for this topic? Pretty please?

Ok sonny. That's the way you want it then, Star Wars, Star Wars: Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back and Star Wars: Episode VI: Return of the Jedi.
Kind of a funny idea you have there, but i think mines is better.

:thumbsup:

A better question is why didn't they take the opportunity in the new movies to visit a planet populated entirely by Gamorean guards?

It wasn't titled E4 b/c he didn't think he'd ever get to finish the other movies. The new crawl came, as many have said, during the rerelease.

At C3 Lucas said more animated material is coming out, as well as the TV show. He is going to wait and see how popular they are and he also said he might return to theatrical movies, but not for sometime.*

*In other words, if he churns out Howard the Duck 2, or gets bored, we'll see more Star Wars. Never say never with the flannelled one. Hasn't anyone learned this yet?

Read that back to yourself and see if it doesn't sound funny.

As for my post, I believe I'm dead on. Many claimed they wouldn't buy it. Many lied through their teeth. That doesn't mean every single person lied. If that bothers you, tough sh*t.

Because planet Gamorea would sound too much like gonorrhea?

Well, with all due respect, this isn't about the way Groucho or anyone else wants it. The official titles for the second and third films have always been Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back and Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi, whereas the original film was just Star Wars during its first release, and then Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope during its second. Doesn't matter who has the better idea. The titles are what the titles are.

--THX