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duff beer 05-29-05 11:24 PM

Will Lucas release the unaltered Star Wars films on DVD?
 
I ask because he keeps on working on his SW creation constantly changing his word. He's decided to release all in 3D now, and a SW tv-show, rumors of a pre-episode 1 movie, and future ep.7-9 even by other directors. Will he go back and change his word of never releasing the original movies and actually release the 1977, 1980, and 1983 masterworks on DVD? With original poster art on the covers as they convey the feeling of the films a lot better, and have a lot more class, and none of this Star Wars Episode IV/V/VI: A New Hope and just have three movies simply called Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi

http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/St...sheet_L-01.jpg
http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/St...mpire_L-01.jpg
http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/St...eturn_L-01.jpg

Cameron 05-29-05 11:27 PM

Yes he will...no time soon

Mr. Cinema 05-29-05 11:29 PM

Has this been asked about before?

Jackskeleton 05-29-05 11:29 PM

They no longer exist to him


In before someone says the typical "I GOTS IT ON DVD... HURRRR HURRRR"

djtoell 05-29-05 11:32 PM

Wow. I've never even thought of this concept before. Good thing there's a thread to discuss it now!

DJ

duff beer 05-29-05 11:34 PM

He keeps adding things to his SW plethora, making money on it. I'm just hoping a few years from now he could realize this and release these as it was meant to be, the originals given the DVD treatment.

The Infidel 05-29-05 11:34 PM

I believe Lucas was quoted in an interview as saying, more or less, "If you want the original movies, buy them on VHS. They're my movies, and I can do what I want with them." I don't know where the original interview is, so obviously it's not an exact quote, but that was the gist of it.

UAIOE 05-29-05 11:35 PM

Why does he need a pre-Episode 1 movie?

And what would he call it, Episode 0?

duff beer 05-29-05 11:35 PM

I know it's been discussed before he won't release them, but how surprising he keeps playing on the house adding new Star Wars projects to something he said he's done with. A new hope for the originals?

RyoHazuki 05-29-05 11:37 PM

No. Never. Sorry. Get over it.

Spiky 05-29-05 11:39 PM

Stop drinking Duff Beer, it's bad for your brain. Obviously.

Thank god I have the LDs.

Amel 05-29-05 11:44 PM

Magic 8 ball says it's undecided.

Who knows? Hopefully, he will. But I don't count on it anytime soon.

animatedude 05-29-05 11:49 PM

i suggest therapy.

Dabaomb 05-30-05 12:13 AM

Wow, that Star Wars Sub-Forum in movie talk must not exist. Oh yeah, the search button must not exist either ;)

:saber:

duff beer 05-30-05 12:20 AM

Yeah but this is discussing the DVD... for the DVD Talk forum as you know.

Cameron 05-30-05 12:21 AM


Originally Posted by duff beer
Yeah but this is discussing the DVD... for the DVD Talk forum as you know.

more like the lack of the dvd...

since the thread is up i have a question...

if they released the classic trilogy unaltered who would bitch if they didn't take out matte lines and if they only released original mono track...(I know star wars had a stereo track in some places also)...so matte lines on the ships, and rancor, etc. and no surround sound.....then what

duff beer 05-30-05 12:41 AM

I'd hope it be criterion, ofcourse the usual clean ups would happen, just none of those 1997 alterations or any for that matter.

Cameron 05-30-05 12:43 AM


Originally Posted by duff beer
I'd hope it be criterion.

that would never ever happen...nor is it needed. Lucas will always self produce Star Wars extras....and they would rival anything criterion would get their hands on. At that point you only want criterion for namesake not content...

rdclark 05-30-05 12:48 AM


Originally Posted by UAIOE
Why does he need a pre-Episode 1 movie?

And what would he call it, Episode 0?

Darth Fetus.

hi_mom 05-30-05 12:53 AM


Originally Posted by duff beer
I'd hope it be criterion, ofcourse the usual clean ups would happen, just none of those 1997 alterations or any for that matter.

criterion releasing the orginal star wars films on DVD?!!!

thats about as likely to happen as me becoming president of the USA.

thanks for making me laugh though. ;)

djtoell 05-30-05 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by Cameron
if they released the classic trilogy unaltered who would bitch if they didn't take out matte lines and if they only released original mono track...(I know star wars had a stereo track in some places also)...so matte lines on the ships, and rancor, etc. and no surround sound.....then what

Why only mono? In the US, the first film had a 6-track 70mm mix, a Dolby Stereo mix, and a mono mix. There's no reason to pretend that only a mono mix would or should be released.

Anyway, I wouldn't bitch about the original films being released with its original effects. That would be one of the main points of doing it in the first place.

DJ

Cameron 05-30-05 01:03 AM


Originally Posted by djtoell
Anyway, I wouldn't bitch about the original films being released with its original effects. That would be one of the main points of doing it in the first place.

not taking or adding effects just taking out matte lines like they did for the vhs and laserdisc thx remasters

story 05-30-05 01:06 AM

No.

duff beer 05-30-05 01:06 AM

Well the only extra content i'd care about would be the director/cast commentaries as long as we get the originals on DVD, with those beautiful poster covers. Warner releases its own classics with original poster covers intact. :thumbsup:

The Infidel 05-30-05 01:08 AM


Originally Posted by rdclark
Darth Fetus.

Except in George's world it would be Darth Phaeteous.

naitram 05-30-05 01:45 AM

Wow, I've never thought about it...something to ponder...

duff beer 05-30-05 02:35 AM

There's a review on Amazon of the current DVD set by someone claiming to be a Lucasfilms employee saying that the original films will be released on DVD within a few years.

The validity of this review is a bit suspect, however, so believe it at your own risk. It could be a huge load yet it could be one huge smart maneuver by Lucas saying this is all you'll get with the DVDs only to release the originals later on and rake in the cash yet again. This will undoubtedly piss off tons of people who bought the set yet they won't have any choice, if they want the originals buy them, if they don't, don't buy them.

"***** A note from a Lucas employee, May 4, 2005
Reviewer: John - See all my reviews
I am tired of all the outcries over this boxset, so I'm going to give you all a bit of insight to what went on behind the curtain.

First of all, let me explain why Lucas released this set. Demand was very high, and DVDs were going to be phased out in the near future. He wanted to please the fans, and give them something to tide over with until the BD/HD-DVD set hits stores in 2007.

Long story short, we had a lot to do and a very short period of time to do it in. Most of our resources were busy with Episode III (both the release and the DVD for the film). We were strained to begin with. Add putting the entire star wars trilogy on DVD with only a little bit over a year to restore and master it, and you have a race against time.

We would have liked to re-color the lightsabers, re-color Jabba, spend more time on the audio/picture, and everything else we wanted to do, but WE HAD NO TIME TO DO IT.

In addition, we only had time to work on one version of the film. We had to choose: the originals, or the special editions. Lucas chose the SE. Lucas didn't want to shell out the millions, and divert time and resources to them when they would be released in 2007.

Yes everyone, the originals are coming to BD/HD-DVD. Seeing all this moaning and groaning makes us wonder if anything will please you guys. The film team is curious if this High-Def set will fill you with joy, or make you all whine further. Why? Because we are already having to make alterations to the film. The restoration is screwing with some key elements, so we are having to go back and manually insert some things. For example, the lightsabers. Yes, they will look like the ones from Episodes I-III, because the High-Def conversion/restoration downgraded the appearence. We had to fix it, and couldn't give it that "70's look" so we were forced to make the sabers look like the more modern ones seen in the prequels.

I'm sorry for all the pain this DVD set has caused some of you. Had we had more time, things would have been different. Now we have a substantial amount of time to work with. With this additional production time, we can now include everything (such as deleted scenes) in the BD/HD-DVD set that we could not include here. You will have your original films (HAN SHOOTS FIRST) and a new directors cut (with more changes) in High Def very soon. Please be patient with us. We hope you can enjoy this set while we work to blow you away with our finished product in 2007. Thank You.

EDIT: It seems some people are paying no attention to my words, but thats ok...

Continue to make an outcry over the set if you want. It will convince Lucas further that the originals will sell (he feels everyone will prefer the DX over the originals). So go ahead and bash us if you want, but try to be somewhat respectful about it? Thanks again."

Fincher Fan 05-30-05 02:46 AM

I smelled bullshit as soon as I got to "DVDs were going to be phased out in the near future."

Egon's Ghost 05-30-05 03:15 AM

I can't say I buy any of that. If he/she says that "had" to update the light sabers, what else? Phbbbt. Whatever. I would buy a restored original trilogy. Full stop. You don't see Criterion having to change things, right? And their restorations are great, right? I don't give a shit how "crappy" by "today's standards" the effects would look. I've recently watched the LD rips and still love them. If you have to change the light sabers to look like Sith than that isn't film restoration, I'm sorry.

Filmmaker 05-30-05 08:17 AM

He seems rather confrontational for a guy whose job security depends on our $...

MovieExchange 05-30-05 08:24 AM

Do what I did - go to a comic convention and buy the bootleg versions that are made from the laserdisc.

And before people start getting after me about mentioning bootlegs here - I understand that people get upset about buying bootlegs of movies / shows that are already legally available, or are coming soon, or even have a slim chance of coming out eventually. I would never suggest or support buying a bootleg when the legal version can be obtained. But in this case Lucas has stated that he absolutely will not be providing a product that we want... so too bad for him if we decide to obtain it somewhere else.

Spiderbite 05-30-05 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by MovieExchange
Do what I did - go to a comic convention and buy the bootleg versions that are made from the laserdisc.

Exactly. I have great-looking anamorphic boots that please me. I would prefer to buy official releases of the OT and will in a heart-beat if they decide to release them. Until Lucas releases them he will continue to help the bootleg market survive.

I agree with Cameron's earlier post. They will be released one day but no time soon.

B5Erik 05-30-05 09:50 AM

There is a lot of money to be made by releasing the original versions on DVD (or HD-DVD, or Blu-Ray, or whatever). Whether it takes two years or twenty, the original versions will see the light of day on the current dominant media format.

Even if George Lucas is adamant about NOT releasing them, they will show up as official releases eventually. George won't live forever. Of course, we may all be so old by then that we just won't care anymore.... ;)

duff beer 05-30-05 01:02 PM

Until then i'm happy with the VHS.

Mike Lowrey 05-30-05 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by UAIOE
Why does he need a pre-Episode 1 movie?

And what would he call it, Episode 0?

Actually I wished he use some of the episodes of the future live-action TV show to fill in the gaps between Ep. I & II, and Ep. II & III. There was what, 10 years between Ep. I and II? For pre Ep. II stuff, I could see several stories dealing with the adventures of some of the Jedi. I'd love to see some stories dealing with Kit Fisto and others.

Groucho 05-30-05 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by duff beernone of this Star Wars Episode IV/V/VI: A New Hope and just have three movies simply called [b
Star Wars[/b], The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi[/IMG]

FYI, ESB and ROTJ were always episodes V & VI.

mr_jbloggs 05-30-05 01:25 PM

Sorry, but what does BD mean (BD/HD-DVD, I know What HD-DVD is) in that amazon review posted above

Filmmaker 05-30-05 01:38 PM

Blue-Ray?

Feathers McGraw 05-30-05 02:22 PM

Will Lucas release the unaltered Star Wars films on DVD?
 
He will, if he ever wants any of my bucks in his wallet.

Oh wait, I forgot, everyone said it was impossible to actually not buy the current trash he released. -ohbfrank-

duff beer 05-30-05 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by Groucho
FYI, ESB and ROTJ were always episodes V & VI.

It was called The Empire Strikes Back in 1980. Not every sequel needs an affirmative number next to it to designate it as a sequel. Just having The Empire Strikes Back in itself is a perfect title.


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