Forced advertisements - coming to a dvd near you
#26
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It's possible to skip the ad on Finding Neverland:
-press stop when the Miramax logo appears on the tv screen
-press on the "Top Menu" button (NOT the "Menu" button) and you'll be taken to the DVD menu.
Let me know of it works.
-press stop when the Miramax logo appears on the tv screen
-press on the "Top Menu" button (NOT the "Menu" button) and you'll be taken to the DVD menu.
Let me know of it works.
#27
Originally Posted by natevines
That's not a solution at all. So if I've been eagerly anticipating a film to come out on DVD for months - even years for some films like King Kong, African Queen, etc - I'm just supposed to pass over them because of some damned ad? Sure, it's a method of protest, but it's not worth passing over something I want to see for a minute or so of advertisement. Yes, it's awful, horrible, disgusting, etc, but your 'solution' is no solution at all.
it just takes some disiplince and belief.
#28
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This is so lame. While I doubt this will make me avoid a release I want to own, I do think discs with forced ads on them should be saved for rental outlets only. If you are willing to buy the dvd you shouldn't have to deal with any forced anything (ads nor trailers). I swear soon these dvds are gonna start coming with those coupon mailers that I get from Columbia House and all.
#29
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I bought my daughter some Sesame Street DVDs and you are forced to watch some 3 minute Whoppi intro every single time before getting to the menu. Really irritates me that it can't be skipped. I ended up just re ripping the DVD without the forced intro.
I don't mind ads on the DVDs or trailers or promos or whatever. However, we should have the choice on watching them or not and not be forced to sit through them every single time we watch the disc.
I don't mind ads on the DVDs or trailers or promos or whatever. However, we should have the choice on watching them or not and not be forced to sit through them every single time we watch the disc.
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Originally Posted by nodeerforamonth
You know, I'd actually be for this if they reduce the cost of the DVD significantly.
Meaning they'd have to sell the DVD for something like $5.
There's no way they should be charging full price if you're forced to watch commericals.
Meaning they'd have to sell the DVD for something like $5.
There's no way they should be charging full price if you're forced to watch commericals.
#31
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Originally Posted by Squirrel God
My first DVD player was one of these. Until that player died and I had to replace it, I never fully released or appreciated just how wonderful it was to be able to skip through anything, change subtitles/audio tracks at will, etc.
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Originally Posted by andicus
With a newspaper or magazine, you can turn the page at your own pace. You're not forced to look at the ad any longer than you wish. Pretty different case IMHO.
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Originally Posted by natevines
That's not a solution at all. So if I've been eagerly anticipating a film to come out on DVD for months - even years for some films like King Kong, African Queen, etc - I'm just supposed to pass over them because of some damned ad? Sure, it's a method of protest, but it's not worth passing over something I want to see for a minute or so of advertisement. Yes, it's awful, horrible, disgusting, etc, but your 'solution' is no solution at all.
http://www.netflix.com + one of the DVD decrypting programs + Nero
You get the DVD for the price of the rental plus the blank disc. About how much they should be selling a DVD with advertising for anyway.
;-)
#37
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Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim
Plus selling the ads directly lowers the price the publishers have to charge the reader for the paper. Not true here as FN is just as expensive as any other DVD.
#38
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Originally Posted by jah
lol... So is charging full price for a DVD with advertising.
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Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim
Plus selling the ads directly lowers the price the publishers have to charge the reader for the paper. Not true here as FN is just as expensive as any other DVD.
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From: Atlanta
Originally Posted by Easy
I can't say I condone what you suggest but I understand your reasoning. Trailers for upcoming features are one thing but product commercials are another. Pay to watch commercials? The bastards are completely insane. I will never knowingly buy a dvd that contains a product commercial. Reviewers and review sites have better be very careful to at least disclose the presence of commercials on dvds or lose all crediblility with people who wish to avoid them. Frankly, I think they should refuse to review them and we should refuse to buy them.
#41
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Originally Posted by djtoell
When one buys most newspapers or magazines, quite simply, one is giving over money for certain expected content, but that content also comes with advertising. It's fine believe that such activity is more justified in one industry over another, but to act like paying money and getting advertising in return is unheard of and somehow beyond the pale is preposterous.
#42
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Originally Posted by Easy
We never before got forced advertising in return. When I buy a paper I turn the pages at my own pace, read what I wish and ignore the rest. That is a far cry from being forced to sit through several commercials... or even one.
Further, the quality of the paper's print is not degraded by the presence of advertisements. DVDs have limited space and quality/content tradeoffs are made. I don't want that space taken up by commercials.
DJ
#43
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Originally Posted by djtoell
Do movie theatres and DVDs keep your eyes and mind glued to the screen and your body strapped down to your chair, as well? You can pay attention to those ads you wish to and ignore the rest.
I doubt there is any release that has it had its content quantity or quality reduced as a result of some manner of brief commercial spot.
#44
[QUOTE=Feathers McGraw]Great. So now not only do I have to print up my own cover to replace the original bilingual abomination, now I have to modify the disk to remove the commercials, and burn it to a blank.
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That’s my move if they start adding commercials. I am already sick of the FBI warnings on every disk (especially FOX).
Rent it, scan it, copy it, burn it, return it.
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That’s my move if they start adding commercials. I am already sick of the FBI warnings on every disk (especially FOX).
Rent it, scan it, copy it, burn it, return it.
#47
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Originally Posted by Easy
That's just completely stupid. You're sitting there in a dark theater... what the hell else are you going to do?
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From: Peoples Republik of Kalifornia
Perhaps someday we will pay a higher admission to enter a movie WITHOUT all their shitty ads and a higher price for a DVD WITHOUT the forced ads.
It would be beautiful if someone could come up with a way to make the marketing genuises who created forced ads to take it in the ass as much as they expect us to take it in the ass.
It would be beautiful if someone could come up with a way to make the marketing genuises who created forced ads to take it in the ass as much as they expect us to take it in the ass.
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Ads have long been part of some print media like magazines and newspapers, and like others have pointed out, you can flip past them easily. And sometimes you're actually seeking out ad info in print. I don't know of a single person who sees a film and thinks "gee... I hope to see an ad for a product I might be interested in". You also don't see ads in books, unless it's for other books by the same publisher. I've never seen a car / softdrink / whatever ad in a book. And I don't want to. The difference is that a book is a more long-term permanent item compared to daily/monthly print media, and is not traditionally ad-supported but rather, audience-supported....like films.
I'm disgusted by the thought of a commercial you can't skip past on a DVD. I have Finding Neverland on the way and hope there's no stupid commercial on it. I think it's more fair to compare DVDs to music CDs. What if you were forced to listen to 60 seconds of soft drink propaganda before you could listen to the music you paid to hear? How about if you had to sit through a commercial before driving your car or booting up your computer? These things are not intended as ad vehicles, but obviously can be abused as such.
I'm so sick of the constant barrage of advertising that I don't do business on the phone with places that spam me with commercials while I'm on hold, I don't buy gas at pumps with those idiot TVs that blather on with "helpful info" while I'm pumping gas, and I don't care how upscale your hotel is, if you have TVs in the elevators spewing ads at me, I'm not coming back. If offered a choice of a DVD with no commercials for $20 or the same DVD for $10 but with forced commercials, I'd plunk down the $20.
I'm disgusted by the thought of a commercial you can't skip past on a DVD. I have Finding Neverland on the way and hope there's no stupid commercial on it. I think it's more fair to compare DVDs to music CDs. What if you were forced to listen to 60 seconds of soft drink propaganda before you could listen to the music you paid to hear? How about if you had to sit through a commercial before driving your car or booting up your computer? These things are not intended as ad vehicles, but obviously can be abused as such.
I'm so sick of the constant barrage of advertising that I don't do business on the phone with places that spam me with commercials while I'm on hold, I don't buy gas at pumps with those idiot TVs that blather on with "helpful info" while I'm pumping gas, and I don't care how upscale your hotel is, if you have TVs in the elevators spewing ads at me, I'm not coming back. If offered a choice of a DVD with no commercials for $20 or the same DVD for $10 but with forced commercials, I'd plunk down the $20.



