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Neeb 01-08-05 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Ignoring both formats until players are around $200-$250. Lets just hope Fox dosnt release Buffy otr Angel anytime soon, it will be hard to resist.

I hear that. Although given the lackluster treatment Fox gave those sets extra-wise, I'm not too excited unless they put some effort into the re-releases

Drexl 01-08-05 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema
I'm surprised Paramount didn't include the first Mission: Impossible.

They still haven't released a DVD with an anamorphic transfer of it, so they probably need to do a new master first. Maybe they're waiting for MI:3.

As for Jurassic Park, first they need to get permission from Spielberg, who may be holding off on his titles like he did with standard DVD. Then, they will release his films on a staggered basis just like before.

ronricks 01-08-05 07:42 PM

This HD DVD thing will sink like the Titanic. Hell, HDTV still has not even caught on and they expect people to buy another DVD player and an HDTV? This is going to be a joke. I will not be doublr dipping on ANYTHING I have. I hope it drives the price of "regular" DVD's down further also, that would be the ONLY plus because I am not switching.

DVDho78DTS 01-08-05 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by Kant
I found some pics. of BD and HD DVD from CES 05 which I put here, I know the text is in danish but still...
http://www.danskhjemmebioforum.dk/ph...=136977#136977


Thanks for the link. Those pictures got me excited!

Sonic 01-08-05 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by ronricks
This HD DVD thing will sink like the Titanic. Hell, HDTV still has not even caught on and they expect people to buy another DVD player and an HDTV? This is going to be a joke. I will not be doublr dipping on ANYTHING I have. I hope it drives the price of "regular" DVD's down further also, that would be the ONLY plus because I am not switching.

It will not sink because we sinking. We are with low progressive/interlaced movies and televisions. Its about time to adopt the higher resolution stuff.

I don't mind...Im gonna be enjoying this shit! This is my hobby!!!

-antonio

Qui Gon Jim 01-08-05 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by ronricks
This HD DVD thing will sink like the Titanic. Hell, HDTV still has not even caught on and they expect people to buy another DVD player and an HDTV? This is going to be a joke. I will not be doublr dipping on ANYTHING I have. I hope it drives the price of "regular" DVD's down further also, that would be the ONLY plus because I am not switching.

Sigh. Next gen pic quality does not threaten the future of DVD. Those that are so rabidly voiceiferous against any form of HD remind me of 12 yeaar old PS2 fanboy bashing all that is Nintendo. Once you grow some facial hair and move from home, you'll understand that HD is not the future, it is the present. I can totally respect the "wait and see" attitude, but the outright hostility against any form of HD is just silly. The difference is staggering. I'm going back to watching the SD v. NYJ game in HD.

ronricks 01-08-05 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by Qui Gon Jim
Sigh. Next gen pic quality does not threaten the future of DVD. Those that are so rabidly voiceiferous against any form of HD remind me of 12 yeaar old PS2 fanboy bashing all that is Nintendo. Once you grow some facial hair and move from home, you'll understand that HD is not the future, it is the present. I can totally respect the "wait and see" attitude, but the outright hostility against any form of HD is just silly. The difference is staggering. I'm going back to watching the SD v. NYJ game in HD.


I have HD also. I was just pointing out that the majority of people do not. Do you happen to know the percentage of people who subscribe to HD? HDTV is not even in the mainstream yet, that is all I was pointing out. Plus at $1000 a pop for the HD DVD player I think I will pass for a while. These are just my opinions.

DthRdrX 01-08-05 10:15 PM

Even if HD does come out, they will not give up the cashcow dvd market anytime soon. The one title that stands out here to me is Batman Begins. Will it get a dvd9/dvd15 release on the same disc? Will it be released in two different editions for both markets? Will W-B experiment with it by only selling it to HD buyers? Should be interesting to see how they handle releases of the same film on two different mediums.

I believe a HD format will eventually take over for dvd, but it won't happen untill we have one format. Untill then we know it will be a niche market. At least it sounds like it will be much cheaoer than LD right off the bat. Since Toshiba and Sony are not giving in on this "format war" maybe they will work out an agreement to manufacture one machine that will play both while splitting the studios in half? Columbia/MGM/Fox/Dreamworks/Disney can release their titles on Blue-Ray while W-B/New Line/Paramount/Universal go with Hd-dvd? Lot's of questions we won't know for a while.

Sonic 01-08-05 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by ronricks
Plus at $1000 a pop for the HD DVD player I think I will pass for a while. These are just my opinions.

For $1000 I will pass for a while too. I know that in the electronic world...the number of bucks go really down. I mean I remember I payed $800 for a yamaha receiver only to find out in less than a year that it sold for $399 :eek: Man I felt like a lolipop. Never again. Everything always goes down in price!

I am gonna wait and see. I really am interested in Sony's Blu-Ray because I like many of Sony's products. They hardly failed me. I love their dvd players.

-ant

DthRdrX 01-08-05 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by Sonic
For $1000 I will pass for a while too. I know that in the electronic world...the number of bucks go really down. I mean I remember I payed $800 for a yamaha receiver only to find out in less than a year that it sold for $399 :eek: Man I felt like a lolipop. Never again. Everything always goes down in price!

I am gonna wait and see. I really am interested in Sony's Blu-Ray because I like many of Sony's products. They hardly failed me. I love their dvd players.

-ant

I know what you mean. I have used Sony and Toshiba dvd players and preferred the picture on all the Sonys. I figure if the Blue-Ray market fails at least my Sony Betamax will not be lonely.

Sonic 01-08-05 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by DthRdrX
I figure if the Blue-Ray market fails at least my Sony Betamax will not be lonely.

lol!

Jamers 01-09-05 09:26 PM

So what format are these announced titles gonna be in? Blu-Ray or HD-DVD? Are they gonna come in 720p, 1080i, or maybe even 1080P? I'm assuming with either format there should be plenty of room to little or no compression would be required. I don't want them to start releasing SuperBit HD titles. Does anyone know how much space a High Definition 2 hour movie that is uncompressed may require? I'm guessing more that even Bou-Ray or HD-DVD has capacity for to some compression would likely be needed.

Kant 01-10-05 05:08 AM

If you look at the begining you will see that all these titles are HD DVD.
Did you even read this thread?!

El-Kabong 01-10-05 11:12 AM

The Dukes of Hazzard? Ah yes, that's EXACTLY the type of programming that would benefit from having a high definition presentation - a 25 year old TV show that looks about as good right now as it ever will.

Whats next: Gilligan's Island: the HD version?



****EDIT****
Do the players come with the Blury Hand Girl too? That's worth the grand right there.
http://img136.exs.cx/img136/6412/bd218qx.jpg

fryinpan1 01-10-05 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by El-Kabong
The Dukes of Hazzard? Ah yes, that's EXACTLY the type of programming that would benefit from having a high definition presentation - a 25 year old TV show that looks about as good right now as it ever will.

Whats next: Gilligan's Island: the HD version?

They are probably talking about the 2005 released Dukes of Hazzard movie:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0377818/...fc=1;ft=6;fm=1

Giles 01-10-05 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by catracho
How much $$ for an HD-DVD?

I was thinking the same thing..

as for the titles:

I'd re-buy:

- The Harry Potter movies
- The Phantom of the Opera
- The Polar Express
- Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
- Braveheart
- Sleepy Hollow
- The Thing
- Dune
- Van Helsing (... just kidding).

and news if DTS is an audio option?

matome 01-10-05 11:41 AM

Wow, those pics are sweet! :up: Makes me feel like I did back in '97 when I saw the first DVD players at J&R.

Jamers 01-10-05 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by Kant
If you look at the begining you will see that all these titles are HD DVD.
Did you even read this thread?!

Sorry, I saw the HD DVD designation after posting. It didn't click that HD DVD was the standard. I was just thinking of as a generic High Definition label and not the actually standard. Anyway that still doesn't answer my questions below.

Are they gonna come in 720p, 1080i, or maybe even 1080P?
Does anyone know how much space a High Definition 2 hour movie that is uncompressed may require?
I'm guessing more that even Bou-Ray or HD-DVD has capacity for to some compression would likely be needed.

bboisvert 01-10-05 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Jamers
Are they gonna come in 720p, 1080i, or maybe even 1080P?

720p/1080i, based on the PowerPoint show in the linked CES photos.

bboisvert 01-10-05 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by Giles
and news if DTS is an audio option?

Yes, it is.

dbmottle 01-10-05 12:52 PM

Will the DTS tracks be full bit-rate? Can we expect more titles to support DD EX/DTS ES on Blu-Ray and HD DVD?

BigDan 01-10-05 01:43 PM

I can't even get my cable system to broadcast FOX with the sound synced up to the picture. I can't imagine how long it will be before I have a large enough selection of HD available to me enough to make it worth the investment in the equipment.

I can't imagine investing in HDTV, etc. just for the next-gen DVDs. I'd want the television broadcasts, too.

But I'm all for the process getting started with the releases of the new players and titles in the new format since that's the beginning of the price decreases that will eventually make it worth my while (and, in the case of HD-DVD, the beginning of the 'format war' shake-out, which I would like to be solved by the time I buy).

darkhawk 01-10-05 03:06 PM

When CDs came out, people bought not only for the sound quality, but they were so compact that you can store more of them than LP's and cassettes. When I was buying VHS, I kept waiting for something more compact. When LD came out, I was at first interested. But no matter how great the picture was compared to VHS, when I found out that you still had to stop and flip the LD over for a 90 minute movie, I said no way and kept buying VHS.

Years later, when I saw the first 5 DVDs hit the stores, I was hooked. But when I saw the prices of the DVD players, I wouldn't buy it yet. I just started buying DVD movies.
Just over 2 years later when players were annouced to carrying DTS, I finally bought one. Just then Dvyx comes out and after seeing that, I thought it was the worst idea of bad ideas. I've been selling all my VHS tapes and currently I have just over 2300 DVDs collected, not counting TV Series.

Am I excited about better picture, sound and extras? Yes. But, because of the prices and the 2 formats, I'm holding off on buying a player till the price comes down and the HD-DVD / Blu-Ray war is solved. Even if they come out with a player that plays both, one of them most likely will fall out. If one calls it quits, now all the movies you bought that was from that format are worthless in. In my opinion.

Example, if Universal comes out with Jurassic Park in both formats. Even if both formats have the same picture, sound and extras, which format do you go with?

As for double dipping, maybe. Depends on which one has better extras.

fitprod 01-10-05 03:19 PM


and news if DTS is an audio option?
DTS is an option for both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray, but the bigger question is if the studios will bother with it.

Warner has never been a large supporter of DTS on DVD, so I think they'll likely follow suit on HD-DVD.

New Line will probably support DTS.

HBO? The only project they did in DTS was Band of Brothers, but that was a Speilberg project.

Universal still owns some stake in the format, so the odds or very likely.

Paramount is 50/50, they've just recently shown signs of supporting DTS on DVD, but not much.

fitprod

abintra 01-10-05 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by bboisvert
720p/1080i, based on the PowerPoint show in the linked CES photos.

That's disappointing then. Is it that the players aren't capable of 1080p yet or they just aren't going to release software in it?

There's their built-in multi-dip excuse right there.


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