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Old 08-22-07 | 02:31 PM
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I just don't understand why Eyes Wide Shut is getting the full-on 2-Disc SE treatment and all Full Metal Jacket gets is a commentary and a short featurette. Where's the love for FMJ?
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I do like the box, but I'm surprised there's still no artwork for EWS & FMJ.
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Has it been confirmed Eyes Wide Shut is the uncensored version? Does it have the original chanting as well?
According to the info posted on DVD Active, it will feature both "rated" and "unrated" versions.
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Old 08-22-07 | 05:30 PM
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Based on the Box Art shot here, it appears the movies in the keep cases will likely fit into the box. Does anyone know if different cases such as thin pack will be used for the box set or horrors, a digipak foldout? The box price will probably street around $50 which is a hell of alot better than buying individually. I just perfer the full size cases than the thin packs or digipak in this situation.
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Old 08-22-07 | 08:44 PM
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I just don't understand why Eyes Wide Shut is getting the full-on 2-Disc SE treatment and all Full Metal Jacket gets is a commentary and a short featurette. Where's the love for FMJ?
I imagine this is only because of the two version of the film included.
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Old 08-22-07 | 10:22 PM
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No, it's because Eyes Wide Shut > Full Metal Jacket

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No, it's because Eyes Wide Shut > Full Metal Jacket
I fully endorse this statement.
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Old 08-22-07 | 10:39 PM
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No, it's because Eyes Wide Shut > Full Metal Jacket

No arguement from me either, and I love both films.
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Old 08-23-07 | 12:56 AM
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Sorry...I'm still laughing at that idea...
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Old 08-23-07 | 03:12 AM
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Have they released the cover art for Eyes Wide Shut and Full Metal Jacket yet?


And might Barry Lyndon and Lolita also get new covers(even though they're not part of the box and have no new content)?
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Old 08-23-07 | 12:06 PM
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^ Who knows... It is surprising that we don't have covers yet.

EWS > FMJ

Add me to the no arguement camp.
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1st half of FMJ > EWS
EWS > 2nd half of FMJ
Thus = eh, they're both ok. QED.
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i still dont know why the second part of FMJ gets a bad rap, its not as good as the first part but it's certainly not bad. i thought it was great.

FMJ > EWS.

i like them both though.
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This is a no brainer purchase. But one of the things I wish they would have included is a CD soundtrack for the Shining. There has NEVER been an official soundtrack to that film and it's a real shame because the music is some of the best I've heard in a film.


On another note...


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I don't doubt it. I was just pointing out that the logic behind this rumored censorship doesn't hold. If they really were going to try and censor out that word it would be because they are afraid that the film glorifies or otherwise trivializes it's usage. Since Jack is clearly portrayed as a deranged psychotic by that point in the story, he can't possibly be misunderstood to be a moral voice for the film. Bad guys saying bad things is just par for the course. What would get the studio or filmmakers more nervous (perhaps) is if the language is thrown out there casually or is spoken by protagonists that we are meant to identify with. Then they might worry that the film itself is inherently racist, and they, by virtue of the fact that they are releasing it, are too. Hence all the controversy over movies like Song of the South and Cruising. Of course that's completely silly, but I'm just projecting how overly-PC corporate exec types think.

Oh and if Buttmunker was just joking, then sorry, I guess I missed it. I thought he was serious.

The Shining is my favorite film of all time, and that particularly restroom scene always gets me laughing out loud for some reason. Simply because of how dememted Jack is at that point. I don't find the scene when he blurbs out the N word particularly offense, given the context in which the situation occurs, but I'm generally curious about why Kubrick felt the need to use it, as opposed to say, "A colored cook" or "A black cook". Do you suspect it was merely for shock value?
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This is a no brainer purchase. But one of the things I wish they would have included is a CD soundtrack for the Shining. There has NEVER been an official soundtrack to that film and it's a real shame because the music is some of the best I've heard in a film.
If you haven't picked it up yet snag Wendy Carlos' LOST FILM SCORES for the Shinning. Amazing stuff.
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The Shining is my favorite film of all time, and that particularly restroom scene always gets me laughing out loud for some reason. Simply because of how dememted Jack is at that point. I don't find the scene when he blurbs out the N word particularly offense, given the context in which the situation occurs, but I'm generally curious about why Kubrick felt the need to use it, as opposed to say, "A colored cook" or "A black cook". Do you suspect it was merely for shock value?
I doubt it is edited in the new release. People love to spread false rumors online,which many people gossip as 'fact'. I could claim I know someone in the business. And that the new releases will have all new sound effects and music added to 'enhance' the surround mixes. And that the studio burned the original mono mixes to ashes since no one wants those anymore anyway. Now would that mean it is true?


Anyway,I think the word was used in the novel,which is why it is used in the film. And it's a great disturbing and darkly amusing sequence.
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Originally Posted by ViewAskewbian
If you haven't picked it up yet snag Wendy Carlos' LOST FILM SCORES for the Shinning. Amazing stuff.
^ http://www.wendycarlos.com/discs.html
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Old 08-24-07 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
No, it's because Eyes Wide Shut > Full Metal Jacket



Originally Posted by EvilAsh
According to the info posted on DVD Active, it will feature both "rated" and "unrated" versions.
This is good, now bring on The Devils.
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Old 08-24-07 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by OutRun2
The Shining is my favorite film of all time, and that particularly restroom scene always gets me laughing out loud for some reason. Simply because of how dememted Jack is at that point. I don't find the scene when he blurbs out the N word particularly offense, given the context in which the situation occurs, but I'm generally curious about why Kubrick felt the need to use it, as opposed to say, "A colored cook" or "A black cook". Do you suspect it was merely for shock value?
Although the film essentially confirms a supernatural presence, the dude in the bathroom (whatzisname... "O'Grady", you know, supposedly the last Overlook care-taker who chopped up his little girls with an axe), is also something akin to Jack's dark side. I think it was absolutely important to use the most transgressive term possible. It is to come as a shock.

And, yes, that's also one of my favorite scenes in the movie. That chilling 180-degree cross-plane cut from the two-shot of both men to the mirror image two-shot on the other side - technically, a violation of classical cinema grammar - is one of the most effective cuts since, well, since that jump cut/match-on-action bone-to-satellite shot in 2001.
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The Shining is my favorite film of all time, and that particularly restroom scene always gets me laughing out loud for some reason. Simply because of how dememted Jack is at that point. I don't find the scene when he blurbs out the N word particularly offense, given the context in which the situation occurs, but I'm generally curious about why Kubrick felt the need to use it, as opposed to say, "A colored cook" or "A black cook". Do you suspect it was merely for shock value?[/QUOTE]

In my opinion, Jack looks a little uncomfortable when he repeats the word. The Grady he was speaking to was living in the 20's, when the word wasn't as taboo as today, or even in 1980. Jack kind of had an uncomfortable look on his face when he repeats what Grady said.
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Thanks for the heads up on the Wendy Carlos discs guys


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Jack kind of had an uncomfortable look on his face when he repeats what Grady said.
That's true, he certainly did.
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Originally Posted by ViewAskewbian
If you haven't picked it up yet snag Wendy Carlos' LOST FILM SCORES for the Shinning. Amazing stuff.

OK I just checked out her site. It appears she was the one who actually composed some of the music to Kubricks films.

I may still check her catalog out. But the problem is, when I said Shining soundtrack, I meant not the tracks composed strictly for the film(the eerie music and whatnot), but the big band and swing songs from the 20/30's. Midnight the Stars and You, as well as the songs that were played during the same restroom scene we're currently talking about.

I would like to know who the artist is behind that music, and whether those songs are available on CD. I don't particularly listen to old big band/swing type music, but for some reason I just LOVE the ones that were played on the Shining. I may even grab the CD from that artist just on a blind buy, and end up liking his other works
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OK I just checked out her site. It appears she was the one who actually composed some of the music to Kubricks films.

I may still check her catalog out. But the problem is, when I said Shining soundtrack, I meant not the tracks composed strictly for the film(the eerie music and whatnot), but the big band and swing songs from the 20/30's. Midnight the Stars and You, as well as the songs that were played during the same restroom scene we're currently talking about.

I would like to know who the artist is behind that music, and whether those songs are available on CD. I don't particularly listen to old big band/swing type music, but for some reason I just LOVE the ones that were played on the Shining. I may even grab the CD from that artist just on a blind buy, and end up liking his other works
"Midnight, the Stars and You"
Written by Jimmy Campbell, Reginald Connelly, Harry M. Woods
Performed by Ray Noble Orchestra with Al Bowlly

"It's All Forgotten Now"
Performed by Ray Noble Orchestra with Al Bowlly

"Home (When Shadows Fall)"
Performed by Henry Hall & the Gleneagles Hotel Band


The Carlos score is enchanting and very spooky all in one package. I love putting it on and relaxing. It is right up there with A Clockwork Orange (her version she put out of the extended score) as one of my favorite film scores. From the Shinning "Rocky Mountains" is my favorite.
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Thanks for the heads up on the Wendy Carlos discs guys




That's true, he certainly did.
I doubt he was 'uncomfortable' about saying the word. His mood shifts dramatically as the scene progresses. So it's all probably in character reaction in specific ways that he is doing. And has nothing to do with personally being 'uncomfortable' about using the word/hearing it.
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I just noticed that DVDActive has the cover art for Eyes Wide Shut and Full Metal Jacket.

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