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Daniel L 10-12-04 05:42 PM

The Thing Anamorphic SE at Borders
 
I just picked up The Thing anamorphic reissue at Borders. My local Borders loves breaking street dates, and this is no exception. There was no insert, though, when clearly there is supposed to be one. Great packaging, though. Can't wait to watch it!

Kant 10-12-04 06:35 PM

Be sure to post a mini review!

Johnny Zhivago 10-12-04 06:39 PM


Originally posted by Kant
Be sure to post a mini review!
Please... And I think we still need a confirmation (other than Universal's website) that it's actually a new anamorphic transfer. I haven't seen a review on the web as of yet.

Bill Needle 10-12-04 06:42 PM

Re: The Thing Anamorphic SE at Borders
 

Originally posted by Daniel L
I just picked up The Thing anamorphic reissue at Borders. My local Borders loves breaking street dates, and this is no exception. There was no insert, though, when clearly there is supposed to be one. Great packaging, though. Can't wait to watch it!
Glad I extracted the insert from my old edition before taking it to the used store.

I gotta fever! And the only prescription is more insert!

Willh51 10-12-04 07:10 PM

I wouldn't say there was supposed to be an insert, it's a Universal... Anyways, could you post pics of it if you have the capability? Also does this have a slip cover?

Bill Needle 10-12-04 10:39 PM


Originally posted by Willh51
I wouldn't say there was supposed to be an insert, it's a Universal... Anyways, could you post pics of it if you have the capability? Also does this have a slip cover?
Sorry, were you talking about the insert?

Rammsteinfan 10-12-04 10:48 PM

Glad im keeping my booklet from the first one

Daniel L 10-13-04 12:22 AM

Unfortunately, I have no where to host pictures. If anyone has any ideas for me, please let me know.

About the SE:

The transfer IS anamorphic, whereas the old disc was not. It looks sharp and the daytime snow scenes are excellent.

The new disc has a 5.1 mix; I'm not sure if the old disc did. Either way, this disc sounds excellent. Carpenter's score really gets a low end boost, especially in the opening scene. The disc also contains a 5.1 Spanish track.

The disc DOES have a slipcover; the slip cover has a transparent ice border that surrounds the screaming face on the digipack. Pretty cool.

The disc itself features new artwork (the old disc was pretty basic looking) that looks to be a snow-colored montage of the creatures from the film.

The package contains a little wall that looks as if it's supposed to hold an insert, however, mine didn't come with an insert of any kind.

The disc has new menus that reflect the new cover artwork.

All of the old features look to be ported over from the previous special edition.

Again, if anyone has a place for me to host pics, I'll gladly post them. I'm not much of a reviewer, but I hope my comments give you some idea of what to expect. BTW, what is the street date for this DVD?

scottall 10-13-04 12:27 AM

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Thanks for confirming that it is anamorphic.

asianxcore 10-13-04 12:28 AM

I wish the new edition was in a keepcase, but oh well.

Picked it up today at Borders as well on my break from work, since Borders is right next door. I believe it was 14.99.

no insert in mine either.

Daniel L 10-13-04 12:43 AM

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scottall 10-13-04 12:52 AM

I'm scared now.

Dabaomb 10-13-04 01:04 AM

I think that you should be holding up the Friday the 13th Box Set instead.

Daniel L 10-13-04 01:10 AM


I think that you should be holding up the Friday the 13th Box Set instead.
I could do that, but everyone has that already. ;)

Skull 10-13-04 01:19 AM

Will have to check my local Borders if they have it. Thanks for the heads up.

Daniel L 10-13-04 03:28 AM

My local Borders has done this numerous times. Not only that, but they're still carrying copies of Blood For Dracula and Flesh For Frankenstein Criterions.

Does anyone know if the original The Thing disc had a 5.1 disc? I owned it once upon a time (eventually had to sell it off, which is why it's so cool that they made a new one), and seem to remember the sound being in 2.0 stereo. Does anyone remember?

Bill Needle 10-13-04 03:40 AM


Originally posted by Daniel L

Does anyone know if the original The Thing disc had a 5.1 disc? I owned it once upon a time (eventually had to sell it off, which is why it's so cool that they made a new one), and seem to remember the sound being in 2.0 stereo. Does anyone remember?

It had 5.1

gorgo99 10-13-04 08:13 AM

In fact, the old one still DOES have 5.1 ; )

It also has a music-only track. Does the new one? That's the only feature I didn't see listed... might make the old one worth keeping.

asianxcore 10-13-04 09:50 AM

the new disc lists on the back as Dolby Digital 5.1

Adrenaline 10-13-04 10:43 AM

They dropped the isolated score, too bad.

bunkaroo 10-13-04 01:00 PM

I found this as well at a Borders yesterday-wasn't even looking for it.

It is definitely anamorphic as stated above, and actually looks pretty good. There are still some grainy scenes, but an upgrade here seems like a no-brainer.

Here are some screenshots I took off my disc:

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Adrenaline 10-13-04 01:17 PM

Looks much improved over the last release.

Filmmaker 10-13-04 01:30 PM

Daniel L, can you confirm what Adrenaline said--does the new disc keep the isolated music score from the previous DVD release? It was offered as kind of an easter egg on that first release, so you might have to hunt a little for it...

OldBoy 10-13-04 01:37 PM

the specs looked very similar from release to release...can you post what IS on the new and not the old?? thanks in advance if possible.

rasalas 10-13-04 05:11 PM


Originally posted by Daniel L
Carpenter's score really gets a low end boost, especially in the opening scene.
Ack! Ennio Morricone's score.

The new DVD does not reproduce the isolated score, an early DVD feature that is slowly being dropped from all releases. No DVD with an isolated score has ever retained it when the disc was re-released--too expensive along with some rights issues.

rasalas 10-13-04 05:25 PM


Originally posted by scott1598
the specs looked very similar from release to release...can you post what IS on the new and not the old?? thanks in advance if possible.
New = anamorphic transfer
Old = isolated score (easter egg)

Those are pretty much the differences.

Neil S. Bulk 10-13-04 07:45 PM


Originally posted by rasalas
No DVD with an isolated score has ever retained it when the disc was re-released--too expensive along with some rights issues.
What about Tomorrow Never Dies?

Neil

Rammsteinfan 10-13-04 08:26 PM

Just picked up the only copy at Borders! Used the 20% off coupon and got it for $11.99 :)

Here is what I have noticed in differences:

Main menu is different, music is different (the new disc uses the same music for all menus and not different like the old disc)

Bonus features menu has same pics different order.
The Terror Takes shape docu no longer has a menu to choose language or chapters. AND NO ISO SCORE.

Chapter selection is now 6 scenes instead of 4 per page.

Now has french subtitles, old one only had english and spanish.

Movie doesnt just play like the old disc, goes to main menu first.

And the movie... LOOKS AWESOME! I have watched my original thing DVD at least 50+ times and this one looks brighter and much sharper than previous version.

Case is like pictured above, it even has a pocket for a booklet or insert, so where is it? ;)

I think im going to keep both versions...

Rammsteinfan 10-13-04 08:34 PM

Oh and I liked the idea of the slipcase... not too bad, better than I first thought.

rasalas 10-13-04 09:17 PM


Originally posted by Neil S. Bulk
What about Tomorrow Never Dies?

Neil

That's a good point, Neil. The re-released SE of TND comes from about four years ago, just before the trend to delete isolated scores started. It was basically just a re-release of the same SE with new artwork but the same content, not a new SE and nothing changed on the disc. (Even this re-release of The Thing has a new transfer, although no new extras.) But even counting TND, that's one out of dozens of DVDs that have been reissued without an isolated score that was previously included.

Adrenaline 10-13-04 09:20 PM

I don't know what the deal is with not having isolated scores. Studios aren't putting out DVD Audio or SACD releases of their soundtracks so if you want to listen to it in 5.1/6.1/7.1 you're stuck using DPLII/IIx with the CD.

rasalas 10-13-04 10:13 PM


Originally posted by Adrenaline
I don't know what the deal is with not having isolated scores.
Here's the reason--and it also applies directly to the new release of The Thing:


NEW DVDS SCUTTLE SOME OLD SCORES

Randy A. Salas; Staff Writer
2 December 2003
Minneapolis Star Tribune
Copyright (c) 2003 All rights reserved. (posted with permission)


Today's release of the "Alien Quadrilogy" nine-disc set omits a feature found on the previous DVD of "Alien": alternate audio tracks with composer Jerry Goldsmith's orchestral score.

It's not the first special-edition re-release to drop a so- called "isolated score," either. Last week's "The Dark Crystal: Collector's Edition" did it, as have re-released DVDs of "Amadeus," "Space Jam," "Patch Adams" and "The Mummy."

There are three reasons why isolated scores have been disappearing from DVDs, according to Lukas Kendall, who publishes Film Score Monthly ( http://www.filmscoremonthly.com) and produces CDs of classic film scores:

- Piracy: Unscrupulous collectors burn CDs off of the DVD tracks and circulate their homemade discs.

- Lost sales: Record companies have protested the undercutting of sales of their CDs by essentially giving the tracks away for free as extras on DVDs.

- Added costs: Music publishers and unions have demanded royalties from the isolated tracks. They argue that fees should be paid to their artists once the music is separated from the film's mixed soundtrack, because it's no different from a CD release.

Although Kendall admitted that he rarely listens to isolated scores on DVD, he did lament the passing of the "Alien" tracks, which, he said, "went a long way to showing the different concepts of music in the movie: from the music the composer originally intended, to the revisions and the parts of the temporary score that were used in the finished picture." He said he planned to keep his copy of the original DVD.

"I regret the phasing out of what is a very neat feature for the consumer," he added. "But in retrospect, it was too good a thing to last."

Slowpc 10-13-04 10:20 PM

Well , looks like i will have to check on the borders website tonight....

Store Availability
Hyannis Yes

kar10 10-13-04 10:22 PM

Re: The Thing Anamorphic SE at Borders
 

Originally posted by Daniel L
I just picked up The Thing anamorphic reissue at Borders. My local Borders loves breaking street dates, and this is no exception. There was no insert, though, when clearly there is supposed to be one. Great packaging, though. Can't wait to watch it!

How much did you pay for it?


Do they also have Van Hellsing and Garfield available?

Rammsteinfan 10-13-04 10:46 PM

$14.99 is reg price. There is a 10% off coupon on the Bargains thread but I got 20% off cause they didnt read it right :)

They will also give you a 25% off coupon in store if you buy something for next week.

Supermallet 10-13-04 10:58 PM


Originally posted by rasalas
Ack! Ennio Morricone's score.
Beat me to it.

gorgo99 10-14-04 08:16 AM

I DO think it's funny that Morricone did the score when it sounds so much like a Carpenter score... but I'm holding on to my original copy because of the isolated score.

I'll upgrade when I get a widescreen TV.

BTW, one more to add to DVDs that have isolated score: Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Excellent isolated score, with Danny Elfman cutting in and commenting during slow parts.

OldBoy 10-14-04 09:42 AM

are we sure this isn't supposed to come with an insert? as some have said it has a pouch or maybe that Borders being released early just doesn't have them?

bboisvert 10-14-04 11:43 AM


Originally posted by scott1598
are we sure this isn't supposed to come with an insert? as some have said it has a pouch or maybe that Borders being released early just doesn't have them?
Universal doesn't do inserts any more. They've released other discs with a pouch like that before, that have either been empty or just included an ad for 'similar' titles.

OldBoy 10-14-04 12:02 PM


Originally posted by bboisvert
Universal doesn't do inserts any more. They've released other discs with a pouch like that before, that have either been empty or just included an ad for 'similar' titles.
so is the point to take the insert from the old, put it in the new pouch(like I just did), and then is there any point to have the old anymore or is it eBay time?


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