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TylerDurden_73 09-22-04 12:28 PM

Layer change problems on A NEW HOPE...
 
Everybody post make and model numbers of DVD players you are having trouble with.


Sony dvp-nc655p
Sony dvp-s530d
Cyberhome ch-dvd 300


The problem specifically occurs 58:00 to 102:00. Or when Leia and Tarkin and the blowing up of alderran to Ben and Luke with the blaster shield on the Falcon.

Green Jello 09-22-04 12:47 PM

Denon DVD-2900

Not at all detectable because of the 8MB buffer to eliminate layer change pause.

RoboDad 09-22-04 12:50 PM

To clarify, the layer change on ANH occurs at time code 1:03:09, at the beginning of chapter 28. The scene transition is from Tarkin ordering the termination of Leia to a shot of the Falcon in hyperspace, just as they are about to reach the remains of Alderaan. A slight pause at this point is normal, and does not constitute a glitch or malfunction.

It sounds like some people may be experiencing a problem during the chapter just before the layer change. Chapter 27 begins at 59:12, just after the destruction of Alderaan, when Obi-Wan senses a great disturbance in the force.

I have played the disc in my standalone player (Panasonic CP-72 changer), and in my DVD-ROM drive (Sony DRU-510A, with PowerDVD player), and both played fine through all of the area surrounding the layer change.

musick 09-22-04 12:53 PM

I'm pretty sure this is not a layer change as I believe the layer change occurs at the start of Chapter 28 when the Falcon comes out of hyperdrive

according to Digital Bits
layer switch at 63:08 at the start of chapter 28

I believe I am using the Sony dvp-s530d model and the skip first started in chapter 27 when Han enters the saber training sequence. The first time it happened it restarted the movie from the beginning. Checking it out after by starting at chapter 27 I have had some skipping at times and no skipping at other times.

I wonder if it even does any good to try and exchange this disc since the problem doesn't seem issolated to my disc.

Green Jello 09-22-04 12:57 PM


Originally posted by musick
I'm pretty sure this is not a layer change as I believe the layer change occurs at the start of Chapter 28 when the Falcon comes out of hyperdrive
Correct.

Chooch 09-22-04 12:57 PM

Sony DVP-C600D

HotThang 09-22-04 01:08 PM

No problems here either.

DVD-Rom: Sony DRU-700A with PowerDVD
Standalone: Sony DVP NS325

Played from Chapter 26-32 without a hitch. Also, musick is right about the layer change.

Sam

Toad 09-22-04 01:30 PM

I concur the layer change is at the beginning of Ch.28.

I had no problems except noticing the layer change.

outcastja 09-22-04 02:14 PM

Was Vader's line before the layer change out of sync?

mparysz 09-22-04 02:24 PM

I'm using a Pioneer DV-525 and experienced the problems that have been mentioned.

Brian Shannon 09-22-04 03:38 PM


Originally posted by Green Jello
Denon DVD-2900

Not at all detectable because of the 8MB buffer to eliminate layer change pause.

:thumbsup:

jarofclay73 09-22-04 07:24 PM

I have major glitching from 58:00 to 1:03:00 not including the layer change pause.

I have a JVC XV-523GD.

habers 09-22-04 08:36 PM

those who have Panasonics and are experiencing problems, try updating your firmware and report back

http://www.firmwareupdate.us/

jon

emhello 09-22-04 08:55 PM

I have a top of the line Pioneer Elite and my friend's copy is still causing problems.

Mike Lowrey 09-22-04 09:50 PM

I have a 3 year old Pioneer DV-434 and although the layer change right before the Falcon hyperdrive sequence did seem to hick-up a bit more than normal, but it got through it and no further problems for the rest of the movie.

However, when I went to play my Empire disc, I hit the "up" button during the WARNING screen, and as it was supposed to play the animated Star Wars: Episode V intro flash thing, my player just stopped, ie. the display read-out read "Stop" and then "DVD. Hit the Play button and the movie started playing. Hit the Menu button and it went to the Bespin menu, but was showing digital break-up. Ejected the disc, looked it over, reinserted it, it loaded and it ran through normal boot-up and it chose the Bespin start menu again. Must've just got a bad seat in the disc tray the first time.

jessebo 09-23-04 08:14 AM

mine quit playing and froze up in that same area, on two different players. my pioneer dv-c302 froze up and it froze up on my playstation 2. I promptly took the discs back and exchanged them for a new set. the new discs all played flawlessly..

TylerDurden_73 09-23-04 11:50 AM

Anybody know how to contact Fox? I'm on my third set already and it still hiccups in the same spot.

Fok 09-23-04 12:37 PM

I was suprised that mine had no problems. I have a Toshiba SD2200.

Spiky 09-23-04 12:40 PM

This really is a player problem 95% of the time. Sorry.

My Denon 2900 is also perfect, no pause of any kind.

DarthMarino 09-23-04 12:58 PM

All 3 films were pause-free on my Denon 2200 which, like the 2900, has 8 megabytes of memory buffer. Why all players don't have this is seriously beyond me. I really want to know how much extra it would cost to include this on a player.

TylerDurden_73 09-23-04 01:55 PM

I just got back from CC with my 4th different set(I returned all previous sets to their original place of purchase compUSA) needless to say the new set works just fine on all my players.


Sony dvp-nc655p
Sony dvp-s530d
Cyberhome ch-dvd 300

Looks like Fox has some recall issues to be dealt with. Just glad Icould find a non defective set.

asianxcore 09-23-04 04:42 PM

playing through a Philips 727

no problems from 58-102 minutes.

jarofclay73 09-23-04 06:08 PM


Originally posted by TylerDurden_73
Anybody know how to contact Fox? I'm on my third set already and it still hiccups in the same spot.
Go here: Technical Difficulties when playing a THX Certified DVD

movieking 09-25-04 07:12 AM

I just hit the same layer change, but not a big deal to me.

marty888 09-25-04 08:14 AM

No problems - Philips 727.


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