1,Lady and the tramp compared to ,Snow White,The little Mermaid and 101 Dalmations....

instead of feeling the Texture im using light,on SW disk 1 it`s smoother,disk 2 more Grainy...101 about the same,LM also about the same...

Data side of Lady is defiantly same color as SW disk 1,disk 2 on SW LOOKS A TAD MORE SILVER...color of print on L&T is as bright as all of them..

my Lady and the Tramp is in a White case!!!

on your disk,


is the candle 2 colored,

yellow outside and orange inside?

i can`t tell from your pics.

id double check your case color?

yes. on the front cover it is orange inside, and yellow/white-ish on the outside.

also I just looked at my Beauty and the Beast and Snow White DVDs which I bought sealed at The Wherehouse (I think FYE might own this company)

but Beauty and the Beast Disc 1, is a gold tint, while it's 2nd disc is silver. the same with my snow white dvds.

does this rule out that fact that this Lady and The Tramp gold tint to the DVD may or may NOT be a bootleg.

haha damn disney dvds :)

Disney never produced limited edition dvds in black cases, only white.

I know this. Which is why I immediately sent an email for the seller to explain himself before I figure out my next move.

if you have a black case?

id thing it might be a boot!

It is definitely an asian copy.

Thanks for the help. haha I've said a whole ton, but I do appreciate everyone helping me out.

I'm sure if the seller values his feedback and his ass in general he'll reply to my email soon. If not does anyone, or can anyone give me some links to some help pages on ebay on who to contact to report sellers/get my money back. I paid through paypal as well.

I'm afraid it is a bootleg...

1. Looking at mine, the cover and insert appear darker than yours, and it looks like I can see dots in the images, which aren't there in the original (it could be the camera, though.) The insert and cover are also matte, and it appears that they are glossier in the pics.

2. My disc also looks darker, with the blues almost navy blue to indigo. The texture is rough, with different colors having a slightly different texture (the white apron is almost smooth.) The Disney DVD logo is between the two chef's aprons, so that looks correct. I also have numbers on the inside ring, which are (E4107) E3504, and then a smaller line which says IFPI LI27 and then a barcode. The disc is silver, with no hint of gold in it.

3. The seller has 2 auctions for The Jungle Book, one of them he said all discs are sealed, the other one he said all are unsealed, and he said they are new discs on all auctions. He is selling multiple copies of a bunch of Limited Issue Disney discs, as well as "Presale" discs like Passion of the Christ, etc. Many of his other auctions have said new discs, but unsealed...

Was this sealed? If so, it should have been in a white case, with the standard DVD sticker on the top, and another insert about a free DVD mail-in offer.

It sounds like your copy is a professionally done bootleg made at a pressing factory, instead of the legit version.

little fuzzy:

-it was sealed, had the lady and the tramp seal on top of the DVD. it came in a BLACK case which made it fishy. It didn't have an insert for a free DVD.

-the DVD itself has the same numbers/barcode you listed on/near the inside ring of the DVD itself

is it possible he bought a bootleg and didn't know? I got an email from him today saying he bought it when it was in stores and there were mostly white but some black cases. said the store owner said disney made some of both. I dont believe this. I also told him I'm not sure what I am going to do next since getting a refund seems long and tedious. any help would be appreciated

i don`t think Disney made black cases,and i also don`t think he purchased them in a store...

get a refund as a boot is well,it`s a boot:(

I paid through paypal, and got it off ebay. I've never had to deal with this before, what do I do next? any links would help.

I always heard disc color was a way to tell because pressed discs were only silver and any other color indicated a burned disc.

But… after reading about your gold colored B&B disc and checking my own 2 disc sets, that's not true. My B&B set has two colors, but disc 1 is silver and disc 2 is gold. My disc 1 also has a smooth, dull matte finish, while disc 2 has a grainy appearance. ?????

I checked all my other Disney 2 disc sets and found a similar variety of mixed silver and gold discs. In some sets both discs were silver and in one set both discs were gold.

Case color is not certain either. I've seen boxes of DVDs of a single Disney title in retail establishments and some cases were white and some were black.

However, judging from the source you got it from, in all likelyhood your L&T DVD is a boot. Although the only you'll be able to tell for certain is to do a direct, side-by-side comparison to a disc you know is legit. If you can do that, check for substantial differences in the layout and color of the art. Subtle color differences can be the result of the printing process. Sure signs of a boot are differences in the size, position and/or color of a logo or trademark.

Just to follow up. I'd agree with everybody on it being a bootleg PROBABLY. I can say I got this DVD when it was first issued and it couldn't be a bootleg. The DVD disc artwork itself doesn't look "faded" and has a "textured" appearance (like it was sprayed on). Confirm for yourself though, besides the backgound color and whites, all of the colors have a cross-hatched appearance

Furthermore it is silver and by checking though a program it is a single layer DVD. Finally if it was sealed it should have been in a white case.

The odd thing on all of this though is some of the corresponding numbers. Mine also has E3504 (and nothing else) but opposite that it says C3.2 150707-04. There is no barcode but a more inner ring says Nimbus/CA. In incredibly minute type there is IFPI L893 just before the C3.2.

So if they went through all the trouble of making such a convincing double, why were they so stupid as to stick it in a black case (if not just to further convince us)? If not that it gave a disc error in your Toshiba, I would have suggested just accepting it. If the collective DVD mind power here can hardly tell the difference, how will you convince anyone else it's a bootleg?

I never had to deal with this either, but keep us informed what you decide.

Wow, if that is a bootleg its very hard to tell. Comparing mine to yours the only differnce I could see is that the disc art is lighter on yours than mine.

You are going to have a hard time convincing somebody its a boot. Just because the case is a different color does not make it a boot.

Its possible that
(a) It did indeed come in a black case
(b) Person replaced the case for some reason and took everything else.

Thanks everyone.

Right now I am attempting to exchange emails with the seller, since he is wanting to work this whole thing out. I hope he will send me a refund, but we haven't got to negotiating that yet.

My girlfriend paid for more than half of the DVD, so for now I will give her back the money she put in for it (since it was for her), out of my own pocket, until I figure all of this out.

gbub, I do also find it weird that the DVD has the same inner ring numbers that one of the other posters mentioned, seemed to go rather far for just some boot.

Disney needs to start putting out their "classics" on DVD again. The bootlegging is getting out of control.

Hold on! Late breaking news!

Guy is buying empty cases!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5112928462

And shrinkwrap

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=4031898678

Now, two theories:
a.) He burned his original disc, didn't have the case and sold you the original in a different case

b.) its a boot.

I would go with (A) because it seems that the inner ring numbers would not be something that any bootlegger would care about.

He also sold a Jungle Book as NEW. Sounds like you got sold an original DVD in a re-shrinkwrapped case. Demand your money back if you aren't happy with it, otherwise keep it

Thanks Chanster.

I also thought that inner ring numbers were too small of a detail for any bootlegger to worry about, also when I got the "rewrapped" DVD, it had the DVD sticker (long) on the top of the DVD case itself, so I'm not sure what that means.

I am going over my girlfriends tomorrow, and she watches all her movies on her computer, so if it doesn't play then I'll figure out what to do next.

Ah, that could have answered your question a whole page earlier with that info! :)

All of the Disney "Limited Issue" DVDs came in white cases. If it was unsealed, I could postulate that the case was replaced at some point for some reason.

Still sealed in a black case? No way that is legit.

haha sorry I didn't mention that earlier :) I do appreciate all the help and information I am getting.

one of the other posters, posted that this guy was buying baggies to shrinkwrap stuff in on ebay.

we'll see what this guy has to say via-email since he was eager on trying to help me out. so hopefully it will be solved in the least ugly way possible.

Here is a site that has a lot of good details on how to deal with bootleggers.

http://members.ebay.com/ws2/eBayISAP...rid=waskydiver

Thanks to everyone for all the help. The seller is responding to emails really quick and is already mentioning a full refund. Hopefully we can work something out.

more proff it`s a boot;)

[refund]

Even if you get a refund report him to the authorities all bootleggers need to hang.