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Old 03-19-05 | 10:46 PM
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i've never seen this. will this be the definitive, end all version with...the best picture and audio and the best extras? also, will this be uncut? i see the R0 Director's Cut had a lot of nice extras, will those be included and then some?

and will i like this movie?

thanks for all...
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Old 03-19-05 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Cameron
i'm waiting someone to review and see if it is cropped, or whatever
Although I don't have a copy in hand, I can say with pretty much 100% certainty that it will be matted, the way most theatrical releases shot full aperature are matted to 1.85:1 or so on DVD.
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Scott...it is going to have some all new extras, and i assume the old making of feature will fall over to the new disc. It is a funny movie...its low budget, trashy, and absurd...check it out, but don't go looking for a lost masterpiece...

Adam...thanks, I have seen this in theaters twice, and both times it was full frame...so there ya go
Old 03-19-05 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Cameron
Adam...thanks, I have seen this in theaters twice, and both times it was full frame...so there ya go
Doesn't matter. Lots of revival screenings of The Evil Dead were at 1.33:1 too, but that wasn't the way it was primarily shown upon its initial release.

From Troma's website:
Lloyd Kaufman prefers to shoot his films in what's known as full-aperture. Instead of matting the frame to a flat 1.85:1 or anamorphic widescreen 2.40:1 ratio, he shoots in standard Academy 1.33:1 ratio, using the full frame of the camera. This allows for a full viewing experience in both the cinema and home video, although most people who have seen his movies in the cinema will have seen them projected in 1.85:1, as most modern non-arthouse theatre projection booths are not equipped with 1.33:1 projection lenses or aperature plates!
I'm not arguing which aspect ratio is the OAR -- just that I don't think any of us (Troma employees excluded) are in a position to definitively say one way or the other. Troma learned very early on how lucrative the TV/home video market were, and accomodating 1.33:1 was obviously a very big part of that. In those very early days, though, theaters were a significant consideration, and since Lloyd was gunning for a theatrical release and had churned out a few up to this point, there's no doubt in my mind he at least protected for widescreen. What he primarily composed for, I have no idea. Yes, I read what I quoted above, and while I believe that does apply to the vast, vast majority of Lloyd's movies, I think it's possible, if not likely, that that early handful might be an exception where widescreen got greater consideration. I don't know, and I don't think you do either. Regardless, if Troma's releasing a widescreen Toxie (and bear in mind that this isn't the first time Toxie has gotten a widescreen release on home video), I'm sure Lloyd signed off on it.

So there ya go.
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In no way am I disagreeing with you...Just stating that I had only seen 1:33:1 in theaters. I believe your right about the older titles, and am hoping for the best. You are correct that i am not sure, as i didn't see its initial run. I'm sure on release day there will be plenty of pics to look at,and this will go on. Just glad its getting a remaster.
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Originally Posted by Cameron
Scott...it is going to have some all new extras, and i assume the old making of feature will fall over to the new disc. It is a funny movie...its low budget, trashy, and absurd...check it out, but don't go looking for a lost masterpiece...

Adam...thanks, I have seen this in theaters twice, and both times it was full frame...so there ya go
sounds good. guess we'll wait for some reviews.
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"Toxic Avenger" 21st Anniversary Golden Edition...anyone have yet?

And can give some review on picture, audio, and extras? thanks in advance.
Old 04-02-05 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by scott1598
And can give some review on picture, audio, and extras? thanks in advance.
I got my Toxic Avenger DVD delivered a couple days ago. Here's what I've noticed so far:

*CRAPPY* A direct rip from the 1998 Gold Edition Laserdisc. Extras were worthwhile, but not much more than that. Major disappointment! Oh yeah... (get ready)... non-anamorphic!!!

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non anamorphic= no sale for me, sorry.
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I thought the whole point of releasing it in widescreen was to have an anamorphic presentation. This is borderline false advertising.

I'll stick with the Tox Box.
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Originally Posted by Spamcola
I'll stick with the Tox Box.
Yeah, the previous Director's Cut is what I'll be using permanently for viewing unless they re-release it with better quality. I will, however, use the 21st Aniversary Edition for the extras. Very funny and "tromatic" extras; certainly worth the money.
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Originally Posted by MontyPythonFan
Yeah, the previous Director's Cut is what I'll be using permanently for viewing unless they re-release it with better quality. I will, however, use the 21st Aniversary Edition for the extras. Very funny and "tromatic" extras; certainly worth the money.
great review monty. but why use the previous DC vs. this one? isn't the other FS and doesn't that warrant viewing of at least a non-anay WS?
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Guys, the fact is that Toxie wasn't filmed in widescreen in the first place. So even if we spent the money to do an anamorphic transfer it wouldn't really matter in the end.

The print used for this new DVD was the exact same one that was used for the laserdisc that was put out a few years back. But anyway, the point of releasing this new edition was to celebrate Toxie's anniversary, give the fans a different way of seeing the film, and to put some extras on there that fans would enjoy and that probably should have been in the first release.

Will Toxie ever look as polished as perhaps it should? No. Why? Because Lloyd wants it that way. Part of the charm of the first film is its grittiness, so there's no reason to screw with it.

But hey, you're the consumer. Spend your hard-earned money as you will. But let me say this: if you choose not to buy this disc, you're missing an absolutely hilarious interview with the *real* Michael Herz. That alone is worth the price of the disc. Hell, I work for the dude and I can count the number of times we've spoken on one hand.

For those of you that like it, glad you do.
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Chris,whats up with The Children DVD,any updates?

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Originally Posted by Chris Lanphear
Guys, the fact is that Toxie wasn't filmed in widescreen in the first place. So even if we spent the money to do an anamorphic transfer it wouldn't really matter in the end.
Going non-anamorphic is throwing away resolution, although if it's a rehash of the old Laserdisc transfer, you're right -- it doesn't matter. I get the whole "Tro-" branding thing, but I definitely think the "tromorphic widescreen" suggests that the DVD is in anamorphic widescreen.
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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
Going non-anamorphic is throwing away resolution, although if it's a rehash of the old Laserdisc transfer, you're right -- it doesn't matter. I get the whole "Tro-" branding thing, but I definitely think the "tromorphic widescreen" suggests that the DVD is in anamorphic widescreen.
Maybe it was Troma's way of satirically mocking the advertising and mastering process of the mainstream companies...
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Maybe it was Troma's way of satirically mocking the advertising and mastering process of the mainstream companies...
And at the same time be guilty of forcing unneccessary double dips in the market just like those mainstream companies they love to mock.
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I picked up Toxie today, and must say I was disappointed with the video quality. Washed out, matted non anamorphic. Yuck. Nice extras, but damn it looks bad. Heres some screen caps I took of the Tox Box version, and 21st edition, with Power DVD:




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Perhaps irrelevant coincidence, but I just happened this week to finally getting around to seeing the "original" (more or less) Troma 'movie' ('film' is too generous a term for a Troma) - Mother's Day. That was three days ago and I am still in the process of attempting to pick my jaw up off the floor.

These Kaufman fellows must come from another, far stranger section of the universe...
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Originally Posted by stingermck
I picked up Toxie today, and must say I was disappointed with the video quality. Washed out, matted non anamorphic. Yuck. Nice extras, but damn it looks bad. Heres some screen caps I took of the Tox Box version, and 21st edition, with Power DVD:




how could the 21st edition be so different so bad compared to the Tox Box? this really disappoints me...
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as much as i love troma,that transfer looks horrible,but in Troma's defense this movie will never look as good as new releases today BUT then again,anchor bay makes there old,obscure flicks look like they were released today and troma has been around longer so then i dont know,troma is just being lazy,i just hope they dont screw up the transfer on THE CHILDREN like they did on GRADUATION DAY which is a nasty ass transfer direct from the VHS

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I don't think people are expecting 'pristine' transfers that look like they were made today from Troma. But I do think,they are expecting at least somewhat decent looking transfers(like the original fullframe release of Toxic).
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wow, the resolution in those pics particularily the widescreen version really sucks - you so can tell that the African American's arm is a prosthetic.
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I don't think people are expecting 'pristine' transfers that look like they were made today from Troma. But I do think,they are expecting at least somewhat decent looking transfers(like the original fullframe release of Toxic).
exactly,ive seen older more obscure movies look way better and the whole 'tromorphic widescreen' thing was not cool and NOT funny,i was about to but it thinking it meant anamorphic,oh well,we fans deserve better than this,but i at least thank troma for providing us a widescreen transfer

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