Where has everyone ordered their Region 3 DVDs from? And has anyone ordered from CDWow.com and have shipped yet?

Thanks

Now you're letting the IMDB do the work for you.

I haven't forgot a thing.

The R-rated cuts of DAWN 78 were made AFTER (meaning not before) the initial unrated release, why is that even a point?

The theatrical USA print in 79 is the same film we view today. "Unrated" then meant X. "Unrated" now means suckering mouthbreathers into buying a DVD that "could have" some extra boobies in it. Two very different circumstances.

There are other cuts of DAWN 78, ohhellsyeah, but the original theatrical cut of the film is what remains as the definitive cut. The cut that took its time. The cut that gave us people to care about. The cut that is considered by many to be an all-time horror classic.

I'm thrilled that DAWN 04 will have the extra character development in it (NOT MPAA mandated cuts, as you say), and filled story gaps. I want everybody to enjoy this new DVD. But I sat through it twice in the theater, and that's all they get out of me. They could've included those character scenes in the theatrical print, and nobody would've said boo. Studio politics aside, if those scenes played, they would've stayed.

But I doubt they do.

Besides the disembowlement what else is gory in the original? The head shoot in the beginning!? rotfl
That's the worst head shoot I've ever seen. Worst meaning bad.
It takes a lot more than one scene in each end of the film to get it labelled 'gory'.

I'll have to call you on these two. While Disturbed song may be considered "MTV" it still did fit in well with the movies centeral theme. "Get down with the sickness"... Hmmm could that ever possibly be connected to the film somehow? Not to mention it did kick off some anger and some emotion getting the crowd going considering the way the film ended. It may be MTV style.. but it was fitting.

Also, the "Have a nice day" song... WTF are you smoking? that is MTV? In any case that wasn't the song that originally took that space and it wasn't because of some "oh we can sell more albums" mentality. I saw the first test screening of the film and the song that was in it's place was WEEZER's Island in the sun. Why didn't they use it? Most likely copyright reasons or the price was to high. So The HAVE A NICE DAY song was just tossed in.

Nothing MTV formulated out of this.

i would have to agree with the top poster..some of the quick cutting and the videom montage during the credits is mtv-ish but thats about it..just cause a song thats in the movie is from today doesnt make it mtv-ish..anyway back to the topic..i cant wait to see a longer version of that chainsaw death scene..what am embarrasing way to die! haha

So who can make a guess of what the lowest price will be on release week?

Since the full retail is $30. There is a small chance Target may have the usual $15.99 deal if we are lucky.

Meanwhile online DeepDiscount has it for $21.99.



Oh Jack what I meant by 'MTV' with that song was,that it was a nice catchy pop song,that sounds like something MTV & VH1 would play to death like every other pop act/song out there.

Meanwhile the other songs used in the film(expect Sickness) were not MTVish in my opinion,since you would never see that stuff played on MTV.

But the Nice Day song is not bad in my opinion and works rather well in the scene it is used briefly. So I can appreciate the song choices used throughout the film,as they all serve a purpose,other than just selling some shitty band. This is a very rare thing for a horror film,or film in general today.

added items:

- More zombies during the montage opening

- Extended Ken Foree's speech about "when there is no more room in hell....." that includes Why the dead are among us. pretty funny stuff "You have sex out of wedlock, you have men on men relations"
-Slightly more parking structure scenes


I really did wish they would flesh out more of the second blonde character but they really didnt go much past what they already did. still well worth it when it comes out.

Regardless if they are played out because of MTV or not, if a song fits a certain movie, then by all means they should put it in. What I think you are thinking about, or atleast should be thinking about in this aspect is if a song and band is billed as part of the movie simply because their song is in it. That's when you have a point. In this film, MTV didn't have a huge ad campaign for it nor did they pimp it out that way. So regardless if disturb was at some point or another part of MTV's flagship of bands they played out. The song still is good in this film and it's placement makes sense, advances the story telling, and does not take away from the film.

You may think that it could have just gone to black and been silent. But you are forgetting the closing credits where zombie faces jump out at you. The song helps make the scene even more powerful. Like it or not, the song fit in perfect where it was at and wasn't part of any MTV marketing.


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Jack I understand what you are saying. I was just commenting on the labeling this film an 'MTV horror film' that some of its detractors have resorted to. That is all.

I am not saying none of the songs in the film should have not been used. I was just pointing out the couple songs that 'could' be considered radio friendly mainstream pop/MTV material. That is all. So when you add it all up,no this is not an 'MTV' horror film,since it was not promoted by MTV,and bands on the soundtrack were apart of its promotion. Yet those who either are too ignorant,or have yet to see the film,label it an 'MTV' horror film just because it is a new studio horror film.


You are right with the Sickness durring the very end credits. The first time I saw it,I was taken out of it alittle bit,as I loved how things got very quiet and grim durring the credit montage. So like The Evil Dead which begins with upbeat music,that slowly dies away until the credits are silent aside from a low gust of wind. I thought that may have been nice to use in Dawn as well.

Seeing it the second time in theaters,despite not being a fan of Disturbed,I thought it worked with the flash cut montage being shown,so I have no problem with it now.and even rocked out to it,hehe;)

Sorry to be fickle, but how many more minutes is added to this opus? Thanks.

silly question but was the theatrical cut ever released ? I missed it in theatres and have only heard about the directors cut.

Universal typical release.. they will release both the Rated and Unrated dvd at the same time in october.

Nice, I'm really excited for this release now. That gun shop exit is finally looking like it should've at the theaters. And some boobies are always a nice addition to any movie IMO ;)

QuiGonJosh, if you don't like the movie and want to discuss why, that might be reasonable. This just looks like a thread crap though.

10 minutes.

What happened to the 25 minutes that was mentioned at one time? I guess anymore is better. I loved the TE so I can't wait to see DC. That is why I ordered R3 from Play-Asia. Can't fregging wait!!!
Anyone who gets R3 please post mini-review on A/V quality and movie itself. Mine prob not coming till mid- next week.

There is far far more gore in the Remake, I love the origanal film, but come on its not exactly the peak of sickness and most effects are pathetic (i still love them all and there badness) the remake has some pretty amazing gore effects and full on head shots.

I still beleve there at least 36 minutes somewere waiting to be added into the next dvd of the Remake.

Rumor=don't believe what you read from unnamed sources:D

I bet it was just some diehard fan daydreaming up a storm to have some fun and look like they were smart. Since basically they pressumed "Hey the R version is 100 minutes long,the original film is 126 minutes long,so if the unrated version added 25 minutes,it would be just as long as the original!!"...so thus the rumors came out,and some horror sites jumping the gun end up passing the info along as 'fact'

Also the director even said before the theatrical release that the unrated version would be 10 minutes longer,featuring 5 mintes of more gore and 5 minutes of more charecterization.

So I would believe him over the conjured up 25 minute rumor some nameless person started spreading online;)

more charecterization would have been most welcome IMO. This is where I felt the remake failed at, since in the original the film let the characters develop at a longer pace and rhythm.

OK, here are a few random (inflammatory, but all meant in humor) Page 3 thoughts:

Music: Music is probably one of the most misused tools in cinema today. The music choices for this film however were masterful. One of the things that made this film so enjoyable to me was the lack of techno-metal. But beyond that, the music was used sparingly and almost developed as a character itself, as it was fitting to the scenes and even served as a bit of comic relief at times. Johnny Cash for the opening was downright brilliant and signaled right off the bat that this was not going to be the typical crapfest that pollutes megaplexes everywhere.

28 Days Later: OK, anybody who touts this movie as a prime example of what a zombie film, or even a horror film, should be is obviously either British or on drugs. 28 Days Later gave us lots of lengthy fleshed out believable character development. However, that was it . . . I wet myself laughing when people point to 28 Days Later and then bash Resident Evil or Dawn . . . their are more people named LaBron at a Klan rally than there were zombies in 28 Days Later. And as for horror, well, 28 Days Later served as more of an undead version of "Emma" than a horror film.

The Original: I have long been a fan of the original Dawn, it provides great social satire, the characters are convincing, and I the humor blend is just right. However, there is so much social satire and blended humor that it almost takes this out of the horror category . . . if you want to call the re-make action instead of horror, that's fine. But then we need to reclassify the original and move it next to Wag the Dog in video stores. The original also has become VERY dated. I realize that at the time Savini and Romero were pushing the envelope, but Night of the Living Dead holds up MUCH MUCH better and it was made a decade before on a fraction of the budget. Dawn 78 shows that too much can actually be too little.

Living Dead Survivor's Anonymous: I will grant you this point. Our original band of survivors was a group that we were beginning to feel for and understand. Then we throw in the security guards, whom we are empathetic too as well (well, 2 of the 3 anyway). But when the mall turns into a Thursday night support group and everybody under the sun starts showing up, we really needed to hand out little "My Name Is" badge stickers along with the bad coffee and stale donuts. At that point, all character development is suddenly butchered in the interest of time constraints and we could really care less who is the next "Hors d'oeuvre of the Living Dead."

Undead Unrated: Personally, I find this movie to about like a Stephen King novel when it comes to the characters. I don't so much care that there are so many of them as long as I get to know them . . . give me a 10 hour cut of this movie fleshing out (pun intended) each character! I really don't feel that 10 minutes ("5 of gore and 5 of character devlopment") could really make that much of a difference. There is too much ground to cover. Nonetheless, I will be banging on the mall's doors making gutteral sounds as I anxiously await eating the clerk's brains . . . I mean the Unrated cut.

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I don't consider this movie a remake (IMO) but as a standalone film, it definately lacked in character development. I don't like being taken "out of the movie" by wondering who the hell someone is and why are they there.

That said, I still liked it... but not as a remake.

The Unrated version doesn't do much to change that giles.



that's really funny coming from you Julie considering how you like to start those unfound rumors about why things are rated such and such and how the MPAA is evil because... and so forth. :o :p


Director did say at a los angeles Sci Fi convention before the film was out that it would be 10-20 minutes of extra footage added in for dvd.

Question: Does anyone who the artist and title of the song that played when the survivors started fixing up those 2 mall buses underground?

And DOTD Remake did not suck. It had a good amount of gore, characters to root for (I still love CJ), humor (the sniping scene made EVERYONE laugh), and it was suspenseful (just the first 10 mins was enough!).

I think what people mean by "MTV flick" is when a movie moves at a fast pace, with fast witty dialogue, constant action, raucous sounds/music, and little depth. That doesn't mean that this type of entertainment is bad, just less appreciated by people who feel they are of "high culture".

BTW...DOTD 78 and DOTD 04 RULED!!!!!!!!

I saw the unrated version, and i can say that it does have some more development mostly for the Glen character(Spoiler! he's Gay!). Polley and Rhames' characters were the most developed characters and only a little was added to polley at the beginning. Definatly better and nothing unnecessary was added.

i like both versions. The original, while influential doesn't stand the test of time for newbies. The remake is a horror-action movie, whatever. Both were polar opposites and that's fine. If only we could implant actors from the remake into the original, and give it the same budget= Better acting, better FXs.

P.S. DOTD 04's success helped Romero get the funding for Land Of The Dead...BE GREATFUL!

Ah... the jaded horror fans of the new millenium. :D

At the time of its initial release, Dawn had extreme gore:

Let's look at just a few scenes...

- Miguel chomping out a piece of his wife's shoulder and arm.

- partially devoured zombie crawling on the floor.

- The headshot. (which was NOT the worst ever done, and certainly startling when it was originally releaseD).

- The tenement basement chowfest.

- disembowelment.

- girl zombie at the truck

- Steven in the elevator

- numerous headshots with gaping exit wounds.

... just a few. And used to very good effect. When you care about the characters, their deaths take on greater meaning and impact.

But hey, I know that many people prefer the remake. It's simply a reflection of the times.