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Old 02-18-09 | 06:51 PM
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Re: Anyone else guilty of buying slim cases and being stuck w/ old ones

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I keep all of the original paper covers in a file, just not the plastic cases. In addition, a lot of my original artwork spines were getting pretty faded out, so the Thinpak spines are, in some cases, more readable than my original artwork.

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Old 02-19-09 | 08:24 AM
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Have they made slim cases big enough so you don't have to trim the artwork yet?
This is not currently possible under the physical laws of this universe.

A piece of paper that fits in a 14mm case will not fit in a 7mm case without 7mm being trimmed, folded, or scrunched.
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If the front and back cover widths of the case were extended 3.5mm then the paper would fit.
Old 02-19-09 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by chazparks
If the front and back cover widths of the case were extended 3.5mm then the paper would fit.
So you're asking for a company to make a DVDcase outside of the standard height and length dimensions?

I don't think we'll see much of that. The width varies, but the standard size isn't going to change.
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So you're asking for a company to make a DVDcase outside of the standard height and length dimensions?

I don't think we'll see much of that. The width varies, but the standard size isn't going to change.

No, I'm just saying that if the area (Length x Width) is kept the same when the case is laying out flat the page will fit regardless of how wide the paper cover is. This was a counter to the argument that a page that fits in a case with 14mm couldn't fit in a case with a 7mm spine not a request for a differnt build on cases.
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Originally Posted by chazparks
No, I'm just saying that if the area (Length x Width) is kept the same when the case is laying out flat the page will fit regardless of how wide the paper cover is. This was a counter to the argument that a page that fits in a case with 14mm couldn't fit in a case with a 7mm spine not a request for a differnt build on cases.
Maybe I'm not explaining this well, but it seems pretty simple to me. The length of the cover art in a standard DVD is equal to the standard width of the case, x2 for front and back, plus the 14mm width of the spine.

If you make a slimmer spine width, it just won't fit. There is no physical way to make a slimmer case and have the standard size cover art fit. Whatever you subtract from the spine width, must be subtracted from the cover art size. If you buy 7mm slimcases, you must fold or trim 7mm. If you buy 12mm cases, you must trim 2mm. Etc. It's just math.
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Originally Posted by Trevor
Maybe I'm not explaining this well, but it seems pretty simple to me. The length of the cover art in a standard DVD is equal to the standard width of the case, x2 for front and back, plus the 14mm width of the spine.

If you make a slimmer spine width, it just won't fit. There is no physical way to make a slimmer case and have the standard size cover art fit. Whatever you subtract from the spine width, must be subtracted from the cover art size. If you buy 7mm slimcases, you must fold or trim 7mm. If you buy 12mm cases, you must trim 2mm. Etc. It's just math.
It is just math. But take those 5 mm and add them to the front and back of the case. making the overall length the same. It wouldnt surprise me if someone started manufacturing these, or they were already being made.
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It is just math. But take those 5 mm and add them to the front and back of the case. making the overall length the same. It wouldnt surprise me if someone started manufacturing these, or they were already being made.
I think we would know about it if these were being made. While I agree that it would be nice, as I'd rather not trim or fold, I don't see this happening.

The market isn't remotely big enough to warrant it.

The standard L/W of DVD cases is set in stone. Think of the mess it would make with shipping boxes, retail shelves, furniture design, etc etc

All just my opinion/logical guesses of course.
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Originally Posted by Trevor
I think we would know about it if these were being made. While I agree that it would be nice, as I'd rather not trim or fold, I don't see this happening.

The market isn't remotely big enough to warrant it.

The standard L/W of DVD cases is set in stone. Think of the mess it would make with shipping boxes, retail shelves, furniture design, etc etc

All just my opinion/logical guesses of course.
I see where you are coming from, and I agree with you to a certain extent. I don't see any reason we wouldnt see this at some time in the future.
Personally I dont see what mess it would make with boxes, shelves or furniture design, as arent blue ray cases a different set of dimensions anyway? IE arent dvd cases 5 inches wide (spine to opening) and blueray cases a little over 5.25 inches wide?
Old 02-19-09 | 03:10 PM
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Just speculating, but I'm guessing the market for DVD cases is basically three groups.

#1 is the studios/production/distribution companies making store released DVDs. They aren't going to change the standard size, except for maybe the spine width. This is by far the largest group and the only reason why any company produces cases.

#2 is the individuals/smaller companies for "home-brew" DVDs. This market also wouldn't be interested in changing the standard size.

#3 is the insignificant few thousand of us, creating custom cases or moving into slimmer cases to save space.

Again, I'm just thinking out loud, not trying to be particularly argumentative or anything.
Old 02-19-09 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by danwiz
I have converted over 50% of my collection to Thinpaks (using covers downloaded from r1db.com) and I must admit that I throw the old 14 mm cases out with the garbage as I convert.
Do any sites like that specialize in combined covers? I'd like to cut down space, and what just as soon go straight to double thinpacks. I imagine it wouldn't be too hard to create a tool that would allow you to select two titles and print out a cover (one title on the front, one on the back, and then half space for each on the spine).

I imagine I'm in a pretty small group in wanting that.
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Originally Posted by starman9000
Do any sites like that specialize in combined covers? I'd like to cut down space, and what just as soon go straight to double thinpacks. I imagine it wouldn't be too hard to create a tool that would allow you to select two titles and print out a cover (one title on the front, one on the back, and then half space for each on the spine).

I imagine I'm in a pretty small group in wanting that.
Good plan. My OCD wouldn't allow it, except for sequels.

I have found that the 5mm cases work well, so that saves a little bit more space for my 1 discers. It seems like most of my titles are two-discers anyway.
Old 02-19-09 | 06:59 PM
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You could download both of the covers you want and then create one combined cover using PhotoShop. Sorry, best alternative I can think of.

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