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Old 06-20-04 | 10:39 PM
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Vertigo...DTS ever?

Just watched the "Obsessed with vertigo" featurette on the Vertigo DVD and was surprised to find that it had been re-released in threatre's with 5.1 DTS audio. Just wondered if it will get a DTS Re-release anytime in the future?
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Old 06-20-04 | 10:50 PM
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And before anyone tears into him, there was a DTS laserdisc also, so it's within the realm of possibility.
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Old 06-20-04 | 11:39 PM
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i thought Vertigo (& Psycho) is non-anamorphic on R1... how bout fix that first before moving up to DTS?
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Old 06-21-04 | 12:51 AM
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DTS in theaters has no relation to DTS at home. Almost all theatrical prints these days are encoded with DTS, Dolby Digital SDDS and analog stereo to be compatible with as many theater set-ups as possible.
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Yeah. I'm holding off on buying this until it gets a new anamorphic transfer. I may be waiting for awhile.
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Old 06-21-04 | 08:51 AM
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Here's another thread with discussion about Vertigo's picture and especially sound:

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hlight=vertigo

I for one would appreciate an original mono mix (currently unavailable on R1 DVD) more than any additional versions of the soundtrack with the re-done sound, but that's just my preference.
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Old 06-21-04 | 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by obscurelabel
I for one would appreciate an original mono mix (currently unavailable on R1 DVD) more than any additional versions of the soundtrack with the re-done sound
Same here. I'd prefere anamorphic print and original mono soundtrack over DTS.

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Old 06-21-04 | 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by BlackBeauty92
i thought Vertigo (& Psycho) is non-anamorphic on R1... how bout fix that first before moving up to DTS?
Amen
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Old 06-21-04 | 03:50 PM
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is it going to be in the new jimmy stewart set....i think it is a universal franchise collection.
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Old 06-21-04 | 04:06 PM
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Same here. I'd prefere anamorphic print and original mono soundtrack over DTS.
Same here too.
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Old 06-22-04 | 10:31 AM
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It's a question of priorities... It's already scandalous that an army of dedicated researchers, technicians and film lovers have gone to all the trouble of restoring Vertigo to a pristine state but that the DVD version is not anamorphic. It sort of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

Another good thing about the restoration was the Dolby 5.1 sound which made the sound effects directional and used the original STEREO recordings of Bernard Herrmann's magnificent film score (all except for the cemetary scene). Putting this mix on DTS would add ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL to one's enjoyment of the film, compared to making the picture anamorphic.
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Old 06-22-04 | 11:37 AM
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It sort of defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
Well, not really. The work done on "Vertigo" was a film restoration, meant to preserve the negative so it could be printed and exhibited in theaters in the future. It's what Warner Bros. needs to do for "North by Northwest" instead of the cheap route they took with Lowery's low-res video restoration for home video.

But, yeah, it would be nice if Universal would free up some cash and give "Vertigo" the treatment is deserves on DVD.
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Old 06-22-04 | 12:39 PM
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It's what Warner Bros. needs to do for "North by Northwest" instead of the cheap route they took with Lowery's low-res video restoration for home video.
I didn't realize NxNW was so low-res. I'll have to give it another look. But the sound is dynamite...
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Old 06-22-04 | 12:52 PM
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I didn't realize NxNW was so low-res. I'll have to give it another look. But the sound is dynamite...
The DVD looks fantastic, and the video was undoubtedly transferred in high definition. But that's high definition video, which compared to the original VistaVision negative isn't much (VistaVision has about the same negative size as 70 mm).

The point is, Warner Bros. only did a video restoration of "NxNW," not film, and reportedly the negative is in bad shape.

The end result is the DVD looks great, because it has been tweaked in the digital realm by Lowery Digital. But what happens a few years from now when HDTV has been replaced by the system currently being worked on in Japan that is something like 40 times the resolution? Or what happens if the negative fades to the point it can no longer be printed for theatrical exhibition?

It's disappointing that "Vertigo" is non-anamorphic, but at least the negative has been restored so that the source material is there to give up improved versions for decades to come.
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Old 06-22-04 | 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by Mr. Salty
The point is, Warner Bros. only did a video restoration of "NxNW," not film, and reportedly the negative is in bad shape.
Amen to that. But at least the music has been salvaged. I read that when they did the last CD of North by Northwest, some of the original tape elements crumbled in the tape machine as they were being digitized.
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