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Old 06-13-04, 05:32 PM
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Anyone own Ben-Hur on DVD?

How is the picture and sound quality?
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Old 06-13-04, 05:48 PM
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have you tried doing a search?
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obviously not, or he wouldn't have asked the question.
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Old 06-13-04, 06:20 PM
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Great movie and the video/sound is great, one of my favorites.

Here is a link at DVDfile.com that has a review:
http://www.dvdfile.com/software/revi..._3/benhur.html
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Hasn't there been some talk that this would be re-done soon? I can't find any sources so maybe I'm imagining it. From what I understand the 2.76:1 aspect ratio of the DVD isn't correct, the movie was intended to be projected at close to the original Cinemascope ratio of about 2.5:1 ... I thought I had read that this was being corrected in a new release.
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I think the video and audio is very good.
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http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=1643
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Fry's has it in today's paper for $9.99 until Tuesday 6/15
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i don't like the fact that it's a flipper. you would think with a title like this they could have gone that extra step and made it a two disk. other than that, it is a pretty good release.
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Originally posted by Grabastic
i don't like the fact that it's a flipper. you would think with a title like this they could have gone that extra step and made it a two disk. other than that, it is a pretty good release.
It is a DVD-18! It's not a flipper having the need to flip the disc in the middle of the movie like a DVD-10.

Of course, WB could have made it a 2-disc DVD-9, but it came out before WB decided to do 2-Disc SE series.
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Originally posted by eau
It is a DVD-18! It's not a flipper having the need to flip the disc in the middle of the movie like a DVD-10.

Of course, WB could have made it a 2-disc DVD-9, but it came out before WB decided to do 2-Disc SE series.
i have a changer, which i bought so i wouldn't have to switch discs. flippers nullify that expenditure. anyway, screw it. flippers are a subject that's been talked to death. nothing new to add to that discussion.
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Originally posted by obscurelabel
Hasn't there been some talk that this would be re-done soon? I can't find any sources so maybe I'm imagining it. From what I understand the 2.76:1 aspect ratio of the DVD isn't correct, the movie was intended to be projected at close to the original Cinemascope ratio of about 2.5:1 ... I thought I had read that this was being corrected in a new release.
You're imagining this. Once you factor in overscanning (and even without it) the DVD is far from showing a 2.76:1 ratio. It's somewhere between 2.25 and 2.50. The laserdisc was a guaranteed (windowboxed) 2.75 and, what with the lower resolution of laserdisc compared to DVD, it is now well nigh unwatchable.

Ben-Hur played in both a Camera 65 2.75:1 ratio (the widest ever except for Cinerama) and a more modest CinemaScope 2.25:1 ratio in theatres not equipped with an ultra-wide-screen. If you want the OAR, you would have to go with the 2.75:1 ratio, which means renting a widescreen cinema, because otherwise the main character's face only uses 3.2 pixels at that rate on most TV sets during the great chariot race.
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So which aspect ratio is the current release? 2.70:1 or something less? And what does a 2.70:1 ratio look like on a 4:3 monitor?
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Originally posted by Mike Lowrey
So which aspect ratio is the current release? 2.70:1 or something less? And what does a 2.70:1 ratio look like on a 4:3 monitor?
I just popped it in my home theatre. I have a widescreen TV but if I adjust it for 4:3 and the DVD player for progressive scanning (which compensates in 4:3 for overscanning), the ratio is 2.69. That's the maximum you would see on a computer monitor.

If I play it regularly in widescreen, the ratio is now only 2.48 with overscanning.

Quote from the "Widescreen Museum" website:
While it was possible to use the entire 2.76:1 image on the theatre screen, as a matter of practice the ratio was kept at about 2.5:1 so that theatres weren't required to install new wider screens or curtail the height of those already installed. Initial 35mm anamorphic prints [i.e. CinemaScope versions] were matted to yield a 2.5:1 aspect ratio with Magoptical soundtracks. So despite the total 2.76:1 aspect ratio, critical information was kept within an area of 2.35 to 2.5:1.

Also see the "Letterbox Lunacy" chapter on this site, about the Ben-Hur laserdisc's courageous but misguided 2.75 ratio: www.widecreenmuseum.com/widescreen/lbx2.htm

To answer your question, 2.76 on an ordinary TV looks like a tiny ribbon of light and shadows across a wide expanse of black screen. And it's only marginally better on a widescreen TV.

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