Originally posted by CanadianKnight If I understand the DVDCA forums correctly, it looks like some pinhead, who was annoyed at the treatment he got from the moderators, ratted out DVDCoverart to the MPAA, or something along those lines. Shame they had to ruin it for everyone though. I wouldn't doubt if it was someone (rippah or matthieu) from DF ratting them out either. |
Oh, for the good old days when people put up a cover and we downloaded and thanked them. Making requests and suggestions.
We were a friendly and good community. I was patiently instructed on how to download, print and make some of my own covers. I never received a insulting or harsh word. We just got too big and went commercial. To Michael, Matt, DarthVong, John and all the others that gave me instructions, created covers for me that I requested and the friendly good times - THANK YOU!!! :banana: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: -biggrin- |
Originally posted by Randy810 Oh, for the good old days when people put up a cover and we downloaded and thanked them. Making requests and suggestions. We were a friendly and good community. I was patiently instructed on how to download, print and make some of my own covers. I never received a insulting or harsh word. |
Both actually. It all started with our Talented Artists on DVDTALK (as you well know) and then Matt expanded and later DVDCA evolved because of the problem with bandwidth. Once the DVDCA got going and became so big with so many contributors, it was almost inevitible that problems would occur. I am not critisizing anyone on either site, I am just lamenting the "good old days" of when the cover artists were offfering their covers o their own sites, and the whole process was less impersonal.
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Originally posted by Randy810 I am not critisizing anyone on either site, I am just lamenting the "good old days" of when the cover artists were offfering their covers o their own sites, and the whole process was less impersonal. Perhaps there'll be a migration of artists back to DVD Talk? |
Originally posted by Rogue588 Perhaps there'll be a migration of artists back to DVD Talk? BTW, Home on the Range and Aladdin are both 99% done. I just need features. Bambi is about 80% done. The poster I'm using requires a lot of help, so I have been procrastinating on it. Same for Cinderella. I will post images later. |
Guess I'll be posting here more frequently too ... the whole Disney thing made me leave the site (edit: DVDCA that is) alltogether.
Michael, maybe I've got the art you want to use for Cinderella / Bambi at high res ? Just mail me if you want me to have a look in my "archives". PS. Did you receive that latest mail I sent you Michael ? (asking because ISP is having mail server problems again :-@) |
I never understood why people don't just host images on a peer to peer file share...like bit torrent or something. It would eliminate the bandwidth issues.
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Originally posted by JLyon1515 I never understood why people don't just host images on a peer to peer file share...like bit torrent or something. It would eliminate the bandwidth issues. |
The writing was on the wall once Lucasfilm dropped the hammer. I suspected that eventually other companies would follow suit. I think we were fine when DVDCA was below the radar, but it just got to big and was easily noticed.
As far as the whole making-money issue. There's no other way to host a site with that much bandwidth usage for free. Sure there are alternatives, but nothing as stable as a website vs. peer-peer. It was fun while it lasted. I'll miss seeing the numerous submissions by lesser known artist who contributed. |
Hi all,
I have been with DVDCA for several years, and it has grown to be a major part of my DVD hobby. I despise snappers, digipacks, and just plain butt-ugly studio produced coverart (Real Genius, anyone?), and the incredible covers produced by Matt, DarthVong, Publis82, and too many others to name have given my library a great makeover. I have never uploaded a cover, as I have neither the tools nor the talent to contribute in that way,but I am only too happy to help defray the cost of providing these services via the credit system Matt came up with. That way everyone shares in the enjoyment of our favorite source of debt....:-). As was stated earlier in this thread, the studios are really shooting themselves in the foot. The packaging of the DVD can (and often does) influence whether or not I will buy. I avoid digipacks like the plauge, and snappers are not far behind. If I can print out custom artwork to replace either, then I am much more likely to take the bait. I would like to add my voice to those suggesting an "underground" network of sorts (maybe a password protected private site?), under the radar of the MPAA. This does have its own set of problems, however. If someone did rat DVDCA out, I would love nothing more than to hang him/her up by their toenails. Thing is, how do the powers that be (Matt & co I mean) know that I am not just as immature, spiteful, and egocentric? Whom does DVDCA trust with access to the site? Do they require extensive background checks? I suppose they could get some contractor to do the checks, but the DVDCA credit fee might go up just a tad bit.....:-). I agree in that this has *nothing* to do with potential piracy (another can of worms entirely), but everything to do with the MPAAs paranoia and heavy-handed legal positioning. I cannot state strongly enough how much I appriciate the efforts by so many talented artists at DVDCA, and feel this to be a huge blow to a community I have come to view as part of my extended family. I am sure that the DVD cover art community will continue to evolve, and I will be there right along with it. |
This whole mess with dvdca is just crazy im am so upset about what is going there, as i know you guys are, but i wouldnt hang the towel yet,Im sure when matt gets everything worked out it will be back. (i hope) ok im done rambling now.
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I'm glad I not only down-loaded DVD's I own but those I intend to own. Close to 300 (have about 30 credits left). Anyone working on the X-Files bonus disc that appears in most of the seasons? :)
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I think I have about 70 creds left... hope I get to use 'em! :)
Gotta agree with DV though... it was only a matter of time. It's just too bad that some yahoo decided that he needed to ruin it for everyone. PS - Pagansoul, I *love* that B5 quote. One of the best lines ever. :) |
Originally posted by CanadianKnight PS - Pagansoul, I *love* that B5 quote. One of the best lines ever. :) Corwin: "So from now on I guess the operational phrase is, Trust no one." Ivanova: "No! Trust Ivanova. Trust yourself. Anybody else .... shoot 'em!" But then again there's tons of Ivanova quotes I find hilarious ... |
Hopefully everything works out. I have been a (non-cover making) member of dvdca since matt was located at Reality Crash (that seems like decades ago) and watched the site evolve from a little page matt put up to the "mega-lo dvdca" we have/had today. I know the "new" site allowed for hundreds of new artist and an abundance of choices but I belive it all just got to "mainstream" I remember reading on a JoBlo.com about who "cool" dvdca was and thought then that the MPAA would swoop in but it was months before the "first shot" was fired by Lucass. I have to agree with the other members, the small intimate friendly old dvdcoverart ,where one could request and critique others covers in the forums and not get "Modded" to death, was the best of time. We might not have had as many artist, but we had the "Greats" Hopefully dvdca survives this, if not I guess it's back to converts of snappers/digi-paks and the few customs that the great artist of DVDTalk continue to churn out.
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I hope everything works out as well, and I caught the thread over at DVDCA about the user who notified the MPAA about the site. That is really messed up thing to do regardless of how you are treated, and it seems downright childish.
That said, I did have an idea about what can be done in the scenario that a central website cannot be achieved. Maybe a forum (outside of here and DVDCA) can be set up and can work out a trading system, and make up a list of good traders and bad, artist's work with threads, etc. |
Originally posted by mattgoble Michael, I for one would pay money to own a CD of all your disney covers, so I really do hope you can find a new home for them soon. Matt |
Make that 3!!!!
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Thanks for the love guys. Let me get the last two done and I will see what I can do. Mailing cd's is pretty cheap. Maybe I can just send out a bunch at my own cost every once in a while. Still debating though.
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Dont get caught Mike - hate to be a killjoy but be careful - should you happen to send the "wrong thing" to the "wrong person" by mail, thats all anyone would need to make a federal case out of it.
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Originally posted by JupiterPrime Dont get caught Mike - hate to be a killjoy but be careful - should you happen to send the "wrong thing" to the "wrong person" by mail, thats all anyone would need to make a federal case out of it. |
but if it is something free, that I am sending friends... I don't know. You're probably right. I still don't see the big deal of all of this.
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Originally posted by Randy810 Make that 3!!!! |
Free or not - simply the fact that is was transported by Federal US mail by a Federal US employee using Federal US resources ... i think you get the picture - again - not trying to be a killjoy, but just trying to keep an eye out for ya
Do I think theres a chance in hell anything like this could happen? highly doubtful - but just how well do you know ANYONE in ANY of these forums? I do trust a few people and some freinds I have made - but anyone who just happens to appear on the scene saying "Hey I love your stuff, can you include me as well?" Hell NO |
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