Battle of Algiers 3 DVD Set - Fall
04-28-04 | 11:21 PM
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Originally posted by Pants
BuddhaWake: Your rebuttal drifts into so many different topics that are tangential to our debate that I don't know where to begin. References to racial bias and such are too far off topic for me to really address your underlying topic. However I will apologize for forgetting Puerto Rico. It completely slipped my mind. I really know nothing about Puerto Rico. Tell me; is there dissent among Puerto Ricans? Do they want their own sovereignty? Are there nationalist interests that want a free PR, or are most Puerto Ricans comfortable with their relations to the USA?
BuddhaWake: Your rebuttal drifts into so many different topics that are tangential to our debate that I don't know where to begin. References to racial bias and such are too far off topic for me to really address your underlying topic. However I will apologize for forgetting Puerto Rico. It completely slipped my mind. I really know nothing about Puerto Rico. Tell me; is there dissent among Puerto Ricans? Do they want their own sovereignty? Are there nationalist interests that want a free PR, or are most Puerto Ricans comfortable with their relations to the USA?
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Criterion = inserts, thank god!
Has anyone seen the posters of the re-release? Maybe the cover art will be similar.
Can't wait for the specs.
Now, if they did a 3 disc set of Yojimbo and Sanjuro- new anamorphic transfers, commentary, new subtitles and disc 3 full of supplemental material- I'd be in heaven.
04-29-04 | 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by BuddhaWake
Interesting that in your attempt you seem to have forgotten some other island which are still in your pocession and that are colonies. You might not consider them so because of some use of a word here or there, or because the lack of a backbone by the US and the UN. Mr. Pants lets not forget why the Philippines are autonomous now, because they fought against the spaniards and against the americans. You might not know but the Philippines were staunch nationalist, getting a lot of inspiration by other southeast asian countries during spanish rule, and they continued those movements against the americans. And just because you have a handfull of colonies (look at my location handle) doesn't mean that there was no colonial interest. What do you call the western expansion? but colonization especially since that was part of another country, oh yes lets not forget that. You are telling me that the United States didn't want to annex Cuba after the war, even after they beat the spaniards and had formed their own country yet the US felt it necesary to go there and "help" them form a country colonizing them for a number of years, and eventually just setting up puppet governments. Have you ever heard of the Island of Puerto Rico? obviously not since you think the US has no colonies. This is just one of a few. This island has been a US colony for over 100 years. How's that for colonial interest. Don't be fool by titles such as autonomous states, or any other sweet title you want to throw out there because you feel disgusted by the word colony and can't come to admit that you do have them (there are more not just PR) You are also acting as if the US made a nice gesture by returning back the panama canal to Panama, something the US did not want to do partially due to economic, political interest and just racial conotations that us poor darkies in the third world were too stupid, corrupt and who knows what else to take care of it or to sell it to someone else, and only did because contracts such as those can only last 99 years, oh yeah the United States still manages the canal with national panamanian government. Is also ridiculous to say that Europe's only interest has been colonialism or previous colonies, then by your own generalization those european countries that are in Iraq are there because of colonial interest, yet isn't the reason the same one as that of Bush? So, if they are there for colonial interest and they agree and are doing it with Bush, then Bush must also be in it for the same reason, no? if not then send a telegram to the european nations that they are getting it all wrong. Also, what interest is there for European countries to go to places such as Haiti or Congo or Sierra Leon? Do europeans not have enough cocoa or plantain in their diet?
I will and do agree with you on this. I am off topic but so are you. The topic is not "Battle of Algiers does not equal Iraq war" as you cared to point out to me in you atttempt to show your contempt. but rather the topic is THE ANNOUCEMENT OF A 3 DISC PRODUCTION OF THE FILM BY CRITERION.
Interesting that in your attempt you seem to have forgotten some other island which are still in your pocession and that are colonies. You might not consider them so because of some use of a word here or there, or because the lack of a backbone by the US and the UN. Mr. Pants lets not forget why the Philippines are autonomous now, because they fought against the spaniards and against the americans. You might not know but the Philippines were staunch nationalist, getting a lot of inspiration by other southeast asian countries during spanish rule, and they continued those movements against the americans. And just because you have a handfull of colonies (look at my location handle) doesn't mean that there was no colonial interest. What do you call the western expansion? but colonization especially since that was part of another country, oh yes lets not forget that. You are telling me that the United States didn't want to annex Cuba after the war, even after they beat the spaniards and had formed their own country yet the US felt it necesary to go there and "help" them form a country colonizing them for a number of years, and eventually just setting up puppet governments. Have you ever heard of the Island of Puerto Rico? obviously not since you think the US has no colonies. This is just one of a few. This island has been a US colony for over 100 years. How's that for colonial interest. Don't be fool by titles such as autonomous states, or any other sweet title you want to throw out there because you feel disgusted by the word colony and can't come to admit that you do have them (there are more not just PR) You are also acting as if the US made a nice gesture by returning back the panama canal to Panama, something the US did not want to do partially due to economic, political interest and just racial conotations that us poor darkies in the third world were too stupid, corrupt and who knows what else to take care of it or to sell it to someone else, and only did because contracts such as those can only last 99 years, oh yeah the United States still manages the canal with national panamanian government. Is also ridiculous to say that Europe's only interest has been colonialism or previous colonies, then by your own generalization those european countries that are in Iraq are there because of colonial interest, yet isn't the reason the same one as that of Bush? So, if they are there for colonial interest and they agree and are doing it with Bush, then Bush must also be in it for the same reason, no? if not then send a telegram to the european nations that they are getting it all wrong. Also, what interest is there for European countries to go to places such as Haiti or Congo or Sierra Leon? Do europeans not have enough cocoa or plantain in their diet?
I will and do agree with you on this. I am off topic but so are you. The topic is not "Battle of Algiers does not equal Iraq war" as you cared to point out to me in you atttempt to show your contempt. but rather the topic is THE ANNOUCEMENT OF A 3 DISC PRODUCTION OF THE FILM BY CRITERION.
So don't you dare go lecture anyone on here with your pompous self-righteous attitude on what island or whatever is a US colony. I'd advise you to learn some history yourself before you go quoting it yourself.
And about Iraq. How is that different than Kuwait? We "invaded" Kuwait, didn't we? Yet we didn't colonize it. And we don't wish to colonize Iraq. Hell, the US has invaded many, many lands around the globe during wars. How many of those do we hold automony over? We invaded France, Germany, Morrocco, Libya, Italy, Iwo Jima, Phillipines, Guadalcanal, etc. It took 7 years of occupation to fix Japan, 4 for Germany. Guess what, there was no oil in those countries. I know it's hard for you Lefties to understand that "invasions" may not always have to do with oil and profit. If we really wanted oil, we could drill off the coast and in Alaska. But guess what, the environmental whackos won't let us. It might harm the porcupine caribu or some such crap.
04-29-04 | 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by Mike Lowrey
Just a quick comment on this. If you really are located in Puerto Rico, I find it utterly amazing that you apparently know absolutely little to nothing about your surrounding island neighbors. Almost every island in the Caribbean chain is a colony of a larger nation. Example: St. Martin. It not only is owned by a country, but TWO. The Dutch and the French. Haiti is also largely French. St. Thomas and St. John are British.
Just a quick comment on this. If you really are located in Puerto Rico, I find it utterly amazing that you apparently know absolutely little to nothing about your surrounding island neighbors. Almost every island in the Caribbean chain is a colony of a larger nation. Example: St. Martin. It not only is owned by a country, but TWO. The Dutch and the French. Haiti is also largely French. St. Thomas and St. John are British.
Also, you seem to be very misinformed yourself. I would ammend your statement to read "Almost every island in the Caribbean chain was a colony of a larger nation." Because a vast majority are independent. Like Haiti which won independence from France in 1804, making it the second country in the Americas, after the United States, to free itself from colonial rule.
