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Gore_Hound_X 04-01-04 02:55 PM

Is this real Bad Santa UNRATED from Disney!
 
I noticed this over at DVDEmpire
http://www.dvdempire.com/Exec/v4_ite...item_id=601925
I thought the Mouse didn't do Unrated?

matome 04-01-04 04:45 PM

I just changed my preorder.

OldBoy 04-01-04 05:15 PM

isn't dvdempire not always known for the most accurate info?

DarthMarino 04-01-04 05:59 PM

Definately too good to be true. Unrated or not, I can't wait for this DVD.

Pants 04-01-04 06:44 PM

Then where's Scream god damnit?

TomOpus 04-01-04 06:44 PM


Originally posted by scott1598
isn't dvdempire not always known for the most accurate info?
Before it finally got re-released, they kept teasing us with Weird Al's Complete Video Collection. 2 of my orders got cancelled since they jumped the gun early.

Jackskeleton 04-01-04 06:51 PM

Well it's buena vista. No mirmax, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was unrated.

Julie Walker 04-01-04 09:21 PM

Ummm Buenvista is apart of Disney & Miramax.

So the fact that they are releasing an unrated dvd is strange. Of course,what if it is a gimmick & this unrated version is & never was NC-17 worthy?

Then again,what previous few directors cuts they have released like Heavenly Creatures. They got rerated. So this 'may' be good news.

I would love for an unrated 16.9 Scream to be released on dvd. The R version has a shitty soundmix compared to the great loud as hell frightening intense original mix as on the unrated dvd.

Phuzbox 04-01-04 10:00 PM

The regular edition shows at 91 minutes and the unrated at 93 minutes. Maybe it's 2 more minutes of Lauren Graham hotness :drool:

Jackskeleton 04-01-04 11:08 PM


Ummm Buenvista is apart of Disney & Miramax.
Yes, and so is touchstone, so is ESPN, and so is ABC. Disney owns a lot. they like to keep the names apart for a reason. Nightmare before christmas was released under Touchstone because disney felt it wasn't "disney presents" worthy.. either that or it might be too scary for the younger crowd. Disney likes to mix it up like that. ;)

I'll gladly take the 2 more minutes of lauren graham. :drool: But this "unrated" as julie would suggest is nothing more than a Unrated version of a film that never was NC-17 worthy and could fall under the "Gimmick Unrated" group of dvd's that have graced dvd shelves in the past as a marketing ploy.

QuiGonJosh 04-02-04 04:08 AM

whens this disc come out anyway?

Gore_Hound_X 04-02-04 05:26 AM

The releases date is 6-22

I understand the whole "Gimmick-Rated" releases, but My Boss' Daughter (A Disney Sub-Studio Release) was called "The R-Rated Edition" instead of "Unrated Edition" and if any movie would have made sense being called Unrated it's a stupid Teen Sex Comedy (I believe that genre invented the concept)

Space_Monkey 04-02-04 06:32 AM

For what it's worth http://www.filmratings.com lists the following:

Bad Santa - The Director's Cut (2004)
Buena Vista Home Entertainment
R Rated R for pervasive language, strong sexual content and some violence.

Big Worms 04-02-04 09:28 AM

DVD Empire is listing both.
http://www.dvdempire.com/Exec/v5_sea...ite_id=4&sort=

Interesting. I guess it is a very good question on wheter there is going to be an unrated edition.

moviezzz 04-02-04 09:36 AM

Buena Vista is closer in Disney name than Miramax, so they wouldn't release an NC-17 or Unrated cut.

One thing about the DVD, don't expect a lot of extras. They actually fired the director Terry Zwigoff and brought in Todd Phillips (of OLD SCHOOL) to shoot the ending. Zwigoff wasn't too happy working on the film.

jmj713 04-02-04 09:37 AM

I wonder why this wasn't announced when Bad Santa itself was announced. Now I have an Amazon preorder that I may need canceling.

ThatGuamGuy 04-02-04 09:48 AM


if any movie would have made sense being called Unrated it's a stupid Teen Sex Comedy (I believe that genre invented the concept)
Not true, horror movies had it way before stupid Teen Sex Comedies. I'd agree, though, that stupid Teen Sex Comedies popularized it.


Yes, and so is touchstone, so is ESPN, and so is ABC. Disney owns a lot. they like to keep the names apart for a reason.
That's true, but the "reason" has nothing to do with "ability of one sub-branch to release unrated films". Disney's stated policy is that none of their sub-companies can release unrated films. Miramax is the one that comes up against the most problems with it because Miramax is the one that releases the most movies that would be NC-17 or unrated to start with; Disney doesn't generally release movies that even come close, under any of its banners.


They actually fired the director Terry Zwigoff and brought in Todd Phillips (of OLD SCHOOL) to shoot the ending.
That's true, but I was under the impression that when the new ending tested badly also, they went back to the old ending. Or something to that effect. I knew he was fired, but I had heard that he was then brought back in. (I have also heard that one of the Coen brothers said, "This is why we never work for Miramax" regarding Bob Weinstein firing Terry Zwigoff.)

mikewendt 04-02-04 12:19 PM

I'm gonna guess that dvdempire jumped the gun with the Unrated label... I'll bet it's going to be a R-Rated Director's Cut... IMO

GuessWho 04-02-04 12:26 PM


Originally posted by Gore_Hound_X
The releases date is 6-22

I understand the whole "Gimmick-Rated" releases, but My Boss' Daughter (A Disney Sub-Studio Release) was called "The R-Rated Edition" instead of "Unrated Edition" and if any movie would have made sense being called Unrated it's a stupid Teen Sex Comedy (I believe that genre invented the concept)

It was called the R-Rated Edition because it was submitted to the MPAA and received an R rating.

To call My Boss' Daughter "unrated" would be a lie.

Unrated versions are not submitted to the MPAA, therefore truly "unrated"

It's not a gimmick if they chose one or the other, but actually a description of the process that film version went through.

steebo777 04-02-04 12:35 PM


Originally posted by moviezzz
Buena Vista is closer in Disney name than Miramax, so they wouldn't release an NC-17 or Unrated cut.

One thing about the DVD, don't expect a lot of extras. They actually fired the director Terry Zwigoff and brought in Todd Phillips (of OLD SCHOOL) to shoot the ending. Zwigoff wasn't too happy working on the film.

That's interesting, I never knew Terry was fired.

steebo777 04-09-04 06:47 AM

Looks like the release is unrated... and with a stupid title. I'll still pick this up though.
Badder Santa

THORN 04-09-04 07:19 AM

this gives me hope for a kill bill "uncut" EE in the future

heres to hoping

Lara Means 04-09-04 07:39 AM

Lauren Graham is so hot.

steebo777 04-09-04 07:51 AM


Originally posted by Lara Means
Lauren Graham is so hot.
http://www.blusmurf.com/images/laurengraham.jpg
:drool:

bjh_18 04-09-04 08:17 AM


Originally posted by THORN
this gives me hope for a kill bill "uncut" EE in the future
I'm sure that we'll see this sometime in the future. QT has enough pull at miramax to get anything he wants, and they wouldn't risk losing their crown jewel director over something like this. Everyone makes a big deal about no NC-17 level unrated cuts coming from them, but it will happen.


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