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BlackBeauty92 02-23-04 04:33 PM

ROBOCOP SE is coming!!!
 
according to DVD Angle:

From MGM, look for a special edition of Robocop to arrive as part of the Robocop Trilogy on 06/08 for $39.96. Robocop (the 102-minute theatrical cut) will be presented by way of a new hi-def anamorphic widescreen transfer with DD 5.1 audio. There will also be a commentary (with Paul Verhoeven, producer Jon Davidson, and writer Edward Neumeier), a new 36-minute documentary Flesh And Steel: The Making of RoboCop, 4 deleted scenes, a 6-minute film-to-storyboard comparison with optional commentary by Phil Tippett, 2 vintage featurettes, 101 stills, 2 trailers, and a TV spot. Also included with this set will be MGM's debut of Robocop 2 and Robocop 3. Both will be movie-only discs with anamorphic widescreen transfers and DD 5.1 audio (Note: the old, out-of-print, Image releases were letterbox with 2-channel audio). Robocop 2 and Robocop 3 will be available individually for $14.98 each, but Robocop: Special Edition will be exclusive to this box set.

well....

DVD Josh 02-23-04 04:35 PM

My day has been made.

NaturalMystic79 02-23-04 04:36 PM

I wonder if the commentary will be the same from the CC edition. Not sure whether to get this one or not, being I am happy with my CC release. Anamorphic and DD 5.1 would be nice, but having the Director's unrated version is nice. Hmmmmmmm......

Johnny Zhivago 02-23-04 04:38 PM

So, basically, there's still no reason to unload the Criterion... Figures.

BlackBeauty92 02-23-04 04:39 PM

i also wish that the Director's Cut was included in the SE

but for MSRP $39.99 ($25 on release day?) i'd be happy to grab this puppy

or maybe i should go to other region? hmmmm... the plot thicken

chanster 02-23-04 04:41 PM

Me wonders if the colors will be FUBAREd like previous MGM Robocop releases.

RyoHazuki 02-23-04 04:43 PM

I'll get the boxset and hang on to my Criterion.

bboisvert 02-23-04 04:44 PM

Wow, I just reread that press release.

So, let me get this straight... it will NOT include the director's cut? And, in order to get the first movie, we have to buy the crappy (IMHO) sequels?

No thanks. I'll stick w/my Criterion and/or get the Region 2 edition for the supplements.



EDIT: The more I think about this, the less sense it makes. The sequels are available separately, but the original isn't??????

DVD Josh 02-23-04 04:51 PM


Originally posted by bboisvert
Wow, I just reread that press release.

So, let me get this straight... it will NOT include the director's cut? And, in order to get the first movie, we have to buy the crappy (IMHO) sequels?

No thanks. I'll stick w/my Criterion and/or get the Region 2 edition for the supplements.



EDIT: The more I think about this, the less sense it makes. The sequels are available separately, but the original isn't??????

I'm with you. I recant my first statement. My day has NOT been made :(.

tjn007 02-23-04 04:51 PM

I'll have to think about this one. You have to buy the set in order to get the Robocop SE. The 2nd movie was OK and if I remember the 3rd one sucked. Since I have the Criterion, the only real reason to get this version is for the anamorphic theatricial version and the documentary.

Only chance is if I can get it real cheap around the $20-23 range.

chanster 02-23-04 04:53 PM

You can get other region's SE for like $6.

BananaMan 02-23-04 05:02 PM


Originally posted by BlackBeauty92
i also wish that the Director's Cut was included in the SE

but for MSRP $39.99 ($25 on release day?) i'd be happy to grab this puppy

or maybe i should go to other region? hmmmm... the plot thicken

Didn't the article from DVD Angle say it would be the 102 minute version? My Criterion disc runs for 102 minutes so I'm guessing its the same cut as the Criterion in anamorphic widescreen.

I'm quite satisfied with my Criterion disc but I have been holding out for a better version of Robocop 2 so I guess I'll be plumping for the box set since R2 will be in anamorphic widescreen with a DD 5.1 track. Plus the additional material on the Robocop SE disc means that I might be picking this set up.

But then again I am a fan, and double dipped for the Alien saga so this will be no problem.

PalmerJoss 02-23-04 05:02 PM

I'm probably just going to stick with my Criterion edition for the moment. I'm not a big fan of the other 2 films, and from the sound of it the contents of the first film are mostly from the Criterion edition anyway.

BananaMan 02-23-04 05:03 PM

Btw, if the commenatry is the same as the Region 2 disc then its a different commentary track than the Criterion.

BlackBeauty92 02-23-04 05:10 PM


Originally posted by BananaMan
Didn't the article from DVD Angle say it would be the 102 minute version? My Criterion disc runs for 102 minutes so I'm guessing its the same cut as the Criterion in anamorphic widescreen.

reeeeeeaaally.....

i don't have the CC... so i have no clue what's the running time difference between theater & director's cut

BUT... if it's true 102 is the director's cut running time, then...

then...


*pass out*

Butch Coolidge 02-23-04 05:12 PM

For once R1 is two years late .......

OldBoy 02-23-04 05:13 PM

i'm pretty sure the original MGM and Image releases were 102/3 minutes, same as Criterion, but included altered scenes, like swerving around toxic avenger man and stuff like that to make it less gruesome and more tv/ r-rated friendly, thus same running time, but different content. criterion will be the only one with the x-rated scenes.

DonnachaOne 02-23-04 05:16 PM

The director's cut adds only a mtter of a few seconds of much more gory parts. Altogether, it doesn't total a minute of added footage, so the length for both cuts is about 102 minutes.

It may not sound like much, but the effect when watched is much more harsh.

Julie Walker 02-23-04 05:20 PM

I hope it is a misprint. The uncut version had better be included otherwise no reason whatsoever to updrage! What happened to the seamless branching news?

So I hope this is all a misprint & will be corrected soon. It does not make sense for MGM to release Verhoevens Flesh + Blood fully uncut,then schizo around & release a Robocop SE that is censored!


Also it would be nice if Robocop 2 were the uncut verson. It is supposed to be extremely violent & more gruesome than the original! But I bet it will be the R rated cut. So keep us informed on that one please!

Johnny Zhivago 02-23-04 05:22 PM


Originally posted by DonnachaOne
The director's cut adds only a mtter of a few seconds of much more gory parts. Altogether, it doesn't total a minute of added footage, so the length for both cuts is about 102 minutes.

It may not sound like much, but the effect when watched is much more harsh.

Correct. So, again, I - personally - still see no reason to "upgrade" from the CC for the anamorphic transfer... And that's a real pisser.

DVD Josh 02-23-04 05:23 PM

I like the scene in Robocop II where the prototype robots go crazy.

BananaMan 02-23-04 05:23 PM


Originally posted by Julie Walker
I hope it is a misprint. The uncut version had better be included otherwise no reason whatsoever to updrage! What happened to the seamless branching news?

So I hope this is all a misprint & will be corrected soon. It does not make sense for MGM to release Verhoevens Flesh + Blood fully uncut,then schizo around & release a Robocop SE that is censored!


Also it would be nice if Robocop 2 were the uncut verson. It is supposed to be extremely violent & more gruesome than the original! But I bet it will be the R rated cut. So keep us informed on that one please!

I've actually seen a workprint version of Robocop 2 and it makes the Criterion cut look like an episode of Sesame Street...

I doubt we'll see it on DVD for some time...probably not at all.

Rammsteinfan 02-23-04 05:35 PM

I used to have the old Image version of Robo2 and lost it... I am glad they are finally releasing 2 again. I could care less about 3.

Bricks II 02-23-04 05:36 PM

I say awesome!

I am one of the few who like 2, I find it darkly comic with some great action scenes to boot. I'll be glad to finally have it. I probably won't watch 3 more than once, however, once I remember how crappy it was. But thatt's okay, since I'll be able to get two movies I want for ~$20 street, minus my old version sold.

I honestly don't care about the X-cut, I find the theatrical awesome as is. So I'll mainly be doing this for the extras on 1, since the transfer will likely be similar to my current bare-bones edition.

Anyway, I say thanks MGM, we finally get a proper release of this classic!

Simpson Purist 02-23-04 06:10 PM

Why is Robocop SE only being released in the box set and the sequels released individually? Shouldn't it be the other way around?

QuiGonJosh 02-23-04 06:11 PM

:drool:

Johnny Zhivago 02-23-04 06:39 PM

Well, in that case... So long CC... Thanks for the info Patrick.

Ejunior2 02-23-04 06:45 PM

I'll buy THAT for $1.00.... :)

DVD Josh 02-23-04 06:47 PM

Okay, now there is conficting news. DavisDVD.com reports that the SE will have the "extended, unrated cut" of the movie.

Part man. Part machine. All cop! MGM Home Entertainment finally brings the long-awaited special edition of RoboCop to Region 1 on June 8th. Available exclusively as part of the Robocop Trilogy box set, the seminal sci-fi action film will be released in its unrated extended cut with a brand-new high definition anamorphic transfer and Dolby Digital 5.1 remix. Extras will include a commentary track (with director Paul Verhoeven, producer Jon Davidson, and screenwriter Ed Neumeier), "Flesh And Steel: The Making of RoboCop" new 36-minute documentary, four deleted scenes, a 6 minute film-to-storyboard comparison (with optional commentary by Phil Tippett), two vintage featurettes, a still gallery, trailers and a TV spot. Also included with this set will be film-only reissues of Robocop 2 and Robocop 3, both with new anamorphic widescreen transfers and Dolby 5.1 audio. Retail for the set is $39.96. Robocop 2 and Robocop 3 will be available individually at $14.98 apiece. Click on the thumbnail for a bettr look at the packaging!

digitalfreaknyc 02-23-04 07:04 PM

If this SE is the same one released in EVERY OTHER REGION, it'll be the extended cut. Some have branching...some do not. Either way, they all have the extended cut. I seriously doubt they'd do something differently here. I've had the r3 for a couple of years. Good stuff.

BlackBeauty92 02-23-04 07:09 PM


Originally posted by DVD Josh
MGM Home Entertainment finally brings the long-awaited special edition of RoboCop to Region 1 on June 8th. Available exclusively as part of the Robocop Trilogy box set, the seminal sci-fi action film will be released in its unrated extended cut with a brand-new high definition anamorphic transfer and Dolby Digital 5.1 remix.
YAY!!!

*Pass out*




ugh... headache

ok, i see the point of releasing the sequels individually where the SE only comes in the box. c'mon this is marketing 101, they know the sequels ain't gonna sell very well compare with the original (not to mention being an SE will add the customer's interest even more)... so, by making the SE available ONLY in the box, we (customers/fans) will have to get the sequels too... which improve the sales of the sequels....


ok... back to the original SE... so, it's uncut eh?




*pass out again*

REL77 02-23-04 07:17 PM

Excellent news indeed

Bandit03 02-23-04 07:29 PM

if the MSRP is $40 then thats a great deal in itself (even though it will probably sell for less than that). Its like buying 1 and 2 and getting the crappy third one for free. Im definately in.

Mountain Biker 02-23-04 08:05 PM

Excellent news! :thumbsup:

scott shelton 02-23-04 09:38 PM

Are these films really considered a trilogy? I mean, artistically speaking?

digitalfreaknyc 02-23-04 09:43 PM


Originally posted by scott shelton
Are these films really considered a trilogy? I mean, artistically speaking?
Do they have to be artistic to be considered a trilogy? That's news to me. Either way I already have the R3 version. Hope you all enjoy this boxed set. I really liked the second movie...but still haven't watched the third. I was too put off by Weller not being in it.

Class316 02-23-04 09:44 PM

WHAT?? No DC??? LAME!!! LAME!!

chemosh6969 02-23-04 10:06 PM

so would it be worth it to drop my criterion to get this set?

Al Padrino 02-23-04 10:15 PM


Originally posted by Simpson Purist
Why is Robocop SE only being released in the box set and the sequels released individually? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
Because, they know that the SE of the first movie is what everyone really wants so they know they can get you to buy two movies you don't really want or don't want at all, just so you can get said movie. It's pretty clever if you ask me, as I already know I'll be throwing down for the set and I don't care for the sequel too much and hate the third one.

digitalfreaknyc 02-23-04 10:29 PM


Originally posted by Class316
WHAT?? No DC??? LAME!!! LAME!!
Down, boy.

It is the uncensored directors cut.


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