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Old 02-12-04 | 09:27 AM
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Internal Costco Memo - Ed Wood

Hi gang,

Got hold of an internal Costco memo concerning this week's dvd's.

What's interesting:

1. The release of Ed Wood has been postponed. It was originally supposed to be street date 2/3, and the vendor pulled it at the last minute because product is defective. We have blocked this item in the system and instructed all locations to return it.

2. With the academy awards coming up on FEb 29th we have a few promotions - place these in high traffic areas:

Universal best pictures
Mirimax Academy Awards Gift Set
Warner Academy Awards Set
MGM Oscars set

3. Releasing later this week: Disney Tween Action Asst DVD set - I have no idea what this is - 352650



Enjoy!
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Old 02-12-04 | 11:00 AM
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guess the copies at my local BJ's weren't defective.

well, at least for the 10 hours they were on the shelf until someone bought them all..
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Old 02-12-04 | 12:34 PM
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Lies, damn_lies, and costco memos.

Will we ever get the real reason for the recall?
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well, at least for the 10 hours they were on the shelf until someone bought them all..

selling those on ebay would be atleast a 25 dollar profit.About how many were there
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Granted, the transfer ain't exactly reference quality... But the DVD is not defective.

Wrong forum, BTW...
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I just watched the movie and all of the special features on the recalled DVD last night, and everything was fine, except for a 1 second pause when it changed scenes going from the scene where Ed and the people he took to "The Bride of the Monster" premiere were fleeing in the taxi, to the scene with Ed and Bela walking together. However, it didn't bother me, and everything else was fine. It could just be my player, which is rather old, but still works fine.

I'm using a Panasonic RV20 which plays everything I've tried in it so far, including scratched up rental discs(except for 2 or 3 discs that were simply too scratched to play the whole disc properly).

I suspect that the real reason for the recall has something to do with the deleted scenes, since as far as I know, the region 1 and region 2 releases of "Ed Wood" are exactly the same, except for the deleted scenes, and they are still selling the region 2 DVDs. Oh, and the covers may be slightly different as well, but I'm not sure and I'm not going to bother to find out In any case, I'm sure the cover has nothing to do with the recall, so I think it must the deleted scenes.
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Originally posted by Johnny Zhivago
Granted, the transfer ain't exactly reference quality... But the DVD is not defective.

No one knows enough for sure to be that positive about it Johnny.
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Originally posted by DVD Josh
No one knows enough for sure to be that positive about it Johnny.
Has anyone gotten a bad disk yet? I haven't heard of anyone getting one. I'd say it's a legal issue as to why they were recalled.
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Old 02-12-04 | 08:20 PM
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If the discs were bad, we would have heard about it by now.

And Stealthiscoupon, that was probably the layer change.
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Originally posted by chemosh6969
Has anyone gotten a bad disk yet? I haven't heard of anyone getting one. I'd say it's a legal issue as to why they were recalled.
That's just speculation though. There are some people who say the transfer is substandard. There are other minor issues. No one knows for sure. I wouldn't even say it's "most likely" to be a rights issue. Disney is going through major upheaval right now. They've bumped several releases. This is just one of them.
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Originally posted by caiman
If the discs were bad, we would have heard about it by now.

And Stealthiscoupon, that was probably the layer change.
Well, I suppose it was, but it wasn't simply a 1 second delay going from one scene to the other. It was 1 second where the people in the taxi were frozen on the screen and then it went to the next scene. I was looking for defects on this disc while I was watching it, but I'm sure that I have not seen many movies on DVD where there is a still picture on the screen for 1 second while the layer changes. It really interrupts the flow of the movie, and I know I would notice it if it were more common. If it were just a 1 second pause while the screen was black, it would be less noticeable.

That said, it didn't bother me, but even if I wasn't looking for disc defects while watching, I still would have noticed when the screen froze with everyone in the taxi for 1 second.

And like I said in my original post, it could just be my DVD player, which at this point is kind of old.

I suppose I should clarify my statement about it not bothering me. It did bother me, but only slightly, I'm just glad I got a copy of the disc and that it had no major problems. Of course, having a 1 second screen freeze is a problem, unless Tim Burton wanted the scene to change that way(which I highly doubt), but I didn't think it was a big deal. Also, I do have an old and well used player and I think that could be the problem, so I was not unhappy with the DVD.

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Actually, you're not alone. I played it on a fairly old player and had similar problems about five times during the movie. It's like a layer change, but it's just a tiny bit longer (just enough that you freak out for half a second before it starts moving again) and it happens at inoportune moments. It works fine on my other player (which is much newer) though. Still, this seems to be a fairly minor issue...
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Old 02-13-04 | 01:30 AM
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Maybe there's a DVD-Rot problem like some of Anchor Bay's old discs. Tick-tock tick-tock.
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Originally posted by DVD Josh
No one knows enough for sure to be that positive about it Johnny.
Fair enough... MY copy (thank you lcnickell) is not defective...
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If the DVDs were defective, that wouldn't be a reason for them to recall them all like that. They would just run new ones, but put the bad ones out there, and then if people complained they would say "send in your bad one and we'll send you a new one" just like you've seen studios do before with other bad discs. A studio wouldn't pull discs at the last minute because they are worried some people might complain; they would only do that because they were worried they might get sued, or might piss off the filmmakers or something like that. You can be sure they are right now working on new versions that they'll be comfortable releasing, but if it was just some kind of error on the disc, they would have still put all those ones they produced on shelves just so they wouldn't have to go through everything they are going through now.
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You take the number of DVDs in the field (A) and multiply it by the probable rate of failure (B), multiply the result by the average out of court settlement (C). A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
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Heh, nice reference ^^
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Originally posted by JesseCuster8
You take the number of DVDs in the field (A) and multiply it by the probable rate of failure (B), multiply the result by the average out of court settlement (C). A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
Agreed, good Fight Club reference there, and it is true here too. Of course, since nobody (yet anyway) can sue because their DVD doesn't work, there is no out of court settlement, and the studios just assume that most consumers won't even notice if one thing isn't working correctly. In any event, it doesn't cost them anything to just put the DVDs they've already produced and packaged on the shelves while they make a new batch that work.
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Originally posted by rabbit77
Lies, damn_lies, and costco memos.

Will we ever get the real reason for the recall?
Probably not because Disney is a bunch of lying bastages.
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I don't see why Disney is getting so many knocks for this.

Can't you see that Disney is doing a kind service to those who sell their DVDs on eBay?

Man, they try to give something back and people just shit on them for it.
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Old 02-13-04 | 11:55 PM
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Like any studio ever recalls a DVD because it's "defective."

Embarassing content- sure. But studios have no problem shipping defective discs. (Universal being THE worst offender).
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Originally posted by chemosh6969
Has anyone gotten a bad disk yet? I haven't heard of anyone getting one. I'd say it's a legal issue as to why they were recalled.
I managed to get a bad disc. From the other Ed Wood thread:

While I don't think defective discs was the reason for the recall -- as you say, there've been no major reports of problems -- but my copy unfortunately appears to be a bad one. There are several spots throughout the film that have severe skipping and glitching, all of which occur at the same spots on various players, so it wasn't just a random thing.

Skipping back and replaying the scenes didn't fix the problem (as has helped on other discs if I get a glitch like these). There were five or six scenes total that had the skipping, three of which I can think of right now:

• When the crew is unloading the equipment on the street, preparing to shoot the first scene of Glen or Glenda

• Dolores is sitting at a table on the set of the movie drinking something and Ed comes over to talk to her

• During the nighttime octopus "attack" with Bela -- this looked like it would've been a pretty funny scene had I been able to actually watch it.

I believe one of the other glitches occured at some point while Ed and his friends show up at one of the movie premieres and are chased away...
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watched mine and did notice a slight pause while Ed and his friends show up at one of the movie premieres (Bride of the Monster) and are chased away... that seemed like a pretty normal layer change but nothing out of the ordinary.
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Scotty,

Yeah, that was the layer change.
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