<rant> FOR THOSE WHO WANT THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY AS THEY WERE ORIGINALLY RELEASED, YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND YOUR HARD EARNED CASH ON THOSE OFFICIAL LUCASFILM RELEASES EVENTUALLY.

George Lucas knows how to extract every spare penny out of his fan's pockets. He is not stupid. He's artifically creating demand by denying his fans what they orginally cherished, but he'll eventually release them all.

He'll put out a basic 4 disc set and you'll buy it. He'll put out an expanded 12 disc set of all 6 films and you'll buy it. He'll release the films individually with the original releases included and you'll buy them. And then the whole bloody process will start over again when the next hi-def format comes to your local electronics store. </rant>

Well, I most likely won't be buying this. I've already seen all three movies several times each, and though I really like them, I really don't need to see them again. I guess if it costs $25 like Indiana Jones, I might get it.

Well, I will buy them because my VHS are just that VHS and I want a better video picture along with the 5.1 . I don't like the first 2 pictures anyway.
Were'nt we all waiting for the original 3 movies anyway?
We will wait for the ORIGINAL 3 in DTS and as originally released to theatres and then play the game and purchase those as well.

Funny, no really official notice of what the set will be and already we are complaining about it's deficiencies.

Randy

there is nothing artifical about this my friend. the demand would be there even if lucas decided to release the originals off the bat. People want these. I just can't figure out why the people don't just go out and get them on any format they are on.. since they are out there. You just have to go out and get them and enjoy.

In The Selfish Gene, Dawkins addresses the ‘gloved-fisted’ view of aggression in a manner that is most consistent with a selfish-gene take on animal behavior. In making his argument, Dawkins relies heavily on Maynard Smith’s work. Given Smith’s notion of “hawks” and “doves” and how Dawkins relates them to the fundamental ideas of the Evolutionarily Stable Strategy (ESS) concept, how, can Dawkins support that the ESS concept enables us to “see clearly how a collection of independent selfish entities can come to resemble a single organized whole (p. 84)?”

You should cite your work otherwise it might be construed as plagarism: http://www2.newpaltz.edu/~geherg/cla...3/ess_hon1.htm

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Never claimed it was mine . . .

. . . plus . . . it's clearly been re-worded.

I actually am failry fond of both the SE and the OT. To me in the Original trilogy the Bad FX were kind of part of the cornball charm of the films, it never really detracted my enjoyment of the films, but they always enticed me to smile. the bad FX have a sort of nostalgic value for me. Being that I watched the OT from the ages of 3 days old until I was 13.
I am also kind of Nostalgic for the SE's. The beggining of my adolescence was spent watching the SE's and I even took my First girlfriend to The Empire Strikes back (She loved Star Wars more then I did..God I loved her) So I suppose I would have liked to see The Original Trilogy And The Special Edition Trilogy both on DVD. I'll be buying this DVD set irreguardless of what version it is, simply because I want to live, once again in that galaxy far, far away. But if anyone would be willing to burn me a DVD of the Original Trilogy from the available Laserdiscs I would be very greatful. I couldn't afford the VHS tapes when I was 10 back in 1995 so Its been awhile since I've seen them

All the bootleg talk in this thread.

This is just one of the rare instances where bootleggers provide a service that no legitmate source can provide.

If I could get a copy of the *original* Star Wars on DVD, and Lucas says that there will NEVER be a legitimate set of original trilogy discs, then yeah, a bootlegger is going to get my money instead of Lucas, because they'll be offering me something I want.

I'm going to hold off, though, until we get an official press release. Lusac and Co. may surprise us by putting out both versions and selling twice as many copies (at least they would from me, as I'd buy both versions if they put them both out at the same time).

i'm sure we will se the OT, SE, and fixed SE's on dvd. because even the SE's need to be fixed, even the stupid dance scene in ROTJ.

I can actually think of MANY instances were this is the case. In all those instances I will still stand tall and say paying for a bootleg is bad news.

These rumors ARE NOT official source responses to the question. Also, the official word is not final. Who is to say that the originals do not show up in a few years.. say 2006 when the trilogy was suppose to be put on dvd as anounced in the past? I'm positive that we will see the originals on dvd in the future.

But I would also suggest to never line the pockets of bootleggers. you have a computer, you have the knowledge enough to post here. with those two things you should be able to download them for free and never have to put money in the wrong place.. the pockets of bootleggers.

Well, I don't have a DVD-R drive in my computer, and I have VCDs already of the original trilogy - it'd be nice to have better quality DVDs, though.

And as far as Lucas maybe perhaps someday releasing the OT even if it doesn't happen this year, well, I'm not going to wait. I can buy the OT on DVD right now if I wanted to. And in really decent quality.

I don't mind lining the pockets of someone who supplies demand when the legitimate source refuses to for whatever asinine reason he chooses to relate this week.

I'd rather NOT buy a bootleg - of course I wouldn't. I want the painstakingly gorgeous frame-by-frame digital cleanup that only the original materials holder can provide. But they're not providing it.

If Spielberg refused to put out the original version of E.T. I'd have had my LD transferred to DVD for my own use. Thankfully, he put out both versions, and I can choose to not watch the revised version (even though the transfer on the original version isn't as good as the cartoon E.T. revisions).

anyone who thinks the SE had good FX needs to get their heads examined.

The aweful super fake looking Jabba, the Jawa that falls and bounces a foot above the ground, the pointless overcrowed scenes outside the cantina, the CGI Stormtroopers that moved in a completely unrealistic way... I could go on and on and on.

The SW SE had some of the worst CGI work I have ever seen. I know it was just the mid 90's but other movies from that time had amazing CGI stuff that blew SW away.

the model shots and rubber masks from the 70's looked a million times more real. I really don't have a problem with Lucas making a Special Edition... but christ, man, make it look good.

Actually after I bought the "5-Star" Bootlegs of the SE trilogy I sent George A money order for 40 bucks, with a note saying " My conscious is clear" True story.

umm....

Good for you, planet_jake - I certainly don't condone bootlegging and ripping people off, but your attempt at a make-good is pretty sweet. Most people wouldn't even THINK of doing that, let alone actually going through with it!!

I would have sent him a cheque. That way you'd have a nice autograph if he actually cashed it.

You'll be waiting a LONG time for Star Wars in DTS. Also, it was never in DTS in theaters. Lucas is a big DD supporter.

To be honest, this is exactly how I figured the release would happen, 3 discs and a fourth for extras. I also think that Lucas is smart enough to see the cash cow he could have by releasing the OT someday. I always said that he is damned either way. If he releases bare bones sets to tide us over, people would be pissed and if he waits and gives a full blown UE people will be pissed. I am just glad that I will be able to enjoy ESB in 5.1 & anamorphic.

*slaps forehead*

DAMN!

Very limited thinking. Please do your homework on revisionism and art.

I got a question for all the naysayers. What if this is what we got:

ANH:
Han Shoots first, fixed lightsaber f/x but all the other re-done f/x are still there. (i.e. Jabba, Mos Eisley, Dewbacks, Space Battle, Death Star explosion)

ESB:
Luke's scream is gone, but the changed lines remain changed("You're lucky you got out of there" and Vader's departure from Bespin line), and Bespin still looks red

ROTJ:
Jedi Rocks number out, Lapti-Nek number back in, but the Sarlacc still looks like a Little Shop of Horrors rip-off and the "yub yub" song is now the ending with no intercutting between the different planets.

Would you be satisfied or still not?

sounds good to me.

Of course you know everyone here will say 'I won't buy it' but in Nov. you can almost guarantee they will buy it even if to find some more material to complain about.

Even if Lucas released the origonal movies, people would find things to bash him about. Remember it is 'cool and hip' to bash Lucas or put a '$' in place of the 's'. Like sheep, people jump on the bash-wagon.

If these are the talked about SE-SE versions, people would complain they don't have the SE version as it was in the theater. Yes, people would complain if they couldn't have Greedo shooting first on DVD.

I just hope Lucas never releases these movies ever again. Screw extra footage and stuff. If he does put out a different release (even if the origonal versions are there), it will leed to the double-dip bash fest.

I know I'll be there on release day to get the movies, whatever version they are.

I want "You're lucky you don't taste so good" back