What technology will replace our DVD collection ??
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What technology will replace our DVD collection ??
Whats the latest news ?? Has anybody heard what may eventually replace the DVD ?? Thanks...
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Re: What technology will replace our DVD collection ??
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Whats the latest ?? Has anybody heard what may eventually replace the DVD ?? I heard someone mention DVD's that have some kind of HDTV coding in them...Would we really have to collect all those movies over again ?? I sure hope not...
Whats the latest ?? Has anybody heard what may eventually replace the DVD ?? I heard someone mention DVD's that have some kind of HDTV coding in them...Would we really have to collect all those movies over again ?? I sure hope not...
The topic of HD-DVDs has been covered on these forums extensively, so do a search for HD-DVD or HD-DVDs and you should get plenty of reading material (note: your computer probably will not self-destruct when you finish reading all the messages about HD-DVD.
The video and audio quality will be better with HD-DVDs, but you won't have to do anything. You could rebuy all your DVDs on HD-DVD, but would you do the same thing again in 10 years when the next format is released? I think adopting an every other format upgrade, at most, is wise, so you're never more than 1 format back, but you don't waste a lot of money on 1 step upgrades. I only plan on upgrading to HD-DVD for the action movies that I really like, and I'm not much of an action fan, so it won't cost very much.
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That's some pretty sound advice, cloudnin! And I hope the technology that absolut mentioned will be the norm, so that a lot of my dvd's won't just sit unwatched!
Personally, I don't see myself upgrading at all...unless they get to holograms. There's quite a few movies I wouldn't mind getting myself immersed in.... Yeah, holograms.
Personally, I don't see myself upgrading at all...unless they get to holograms. There's quite a few movies I wouldn't mind getting myself immersed in.... Yeah, holograms.
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Originally posted by Absolut
There was an article that RCA has created a type of player that will play both HD-DVD's and the current generation. Good news indeed. Hopefully the industry will adopt that type of format.
There was an article that RCA has created a type of player that will play both HD-DVD's and the current generation. Good news indeed. Hopefully the industry will adopt that type of format.
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I can't imagine my older films on DVD are really going to look that much better on HD-DVD. I'm not planning on replacing my whole collection ever. I still have a lot of movies on LD for that matter.
I'm sure I will get some HD-DVD movies at some point, but I don't think we are going to have to replace entire collections.
I'm sure I will get some HD-DVD movies at some point, but I don't think we are going to have to replace entire collections.
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There's a rumor going around that the next technology will be a movie on a "pin" and we'll just stick the pin in our forehead and pull our ear-lobe to start it playing. The benefits are amazing - talk about "full screen" this is truly "full mind"!!!
He, he!
He, he!
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If the HD-DVD players are cross compatible I won't have a problem. And most likley, I won't re-buy any of my current DVD's, unless of course there's good reason to (ex. new features, best of the best video/sound).
If it isn't compatable, or there's a new format out, I wouldn't upgrade ALL my titles, probably just some of my favorites. Of course, this all depends on what exactly makes this format superior. Right now, it's hard to imagine how it could get better. Untill we get a Minority Report style format where the movie is actually played out in your living room.
I know for sure, I would keep all my TV DVD's. By the time this will come out and be popular, a lot of my favorite shows will be completley released on DVD, so that will be something to hang on to. As long as I have a DVD player, I could watch any episode my favorite show any time I wanted the rest of my life.
So, in short, I have a lot of DVD's that would just go to waste if I upgraded, so I'd rather hang on to them, even if I am behind in technology. At least untill whatever's after HD-DVD.
If it isn't compatable, or there's a new format out, I wouldn't upgrade ALL my titles, probably just some of my favorites. Of course, this all depends on what exactly makes this format superior. Right now, it's hard to imagine how it could get better. Untill we get a Minority Report style format where the movie is actually played out in your living room.
I know for sure, I would keep all my TV DVD's. By the time this will come out and be popular, a lot of my favorite shows will be completley released on DVD, so that will be something to hang on to. As long as I have a DVD player, I could watch any episode my favorite show any time I wanted the rest of my life.
So, in short, I have a lot of DVD's that would just go to waste if I upgraded, so I'd rather hang on to them, even if I am behind in technology. At least untill whatever's after HD-DVD.
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It's a wire!!!!!
Say goodbye to all physical media.
Sall hello to on-line, real time access to huge movie databases. It's all ones and zero's folks. We just need connectivity and bandwidth. Soon we'll have a direct link into the entire library of each studio. Any movie you want, any time you want.
Local storage for the movie collectors? Sure, if you feel you want it. Chips, bubble memory, or some new, currently unknown technology will allow you to store a movie's 1s and 0s at home. But if EVERYONE has immediate access to ALL media content, what's the point of collecting copies? If the cost to access is less than the cost to store, say "bye, bye" to home collections.
DVD might possibly be the last "physical" media with HD-DVD, and blue laser technology being accepted only by the "philes".
Sall hello to on-line, real time access to huge movie databases. It's all ones and zero's folks. We just need connectivity and bandwidth. Soon we'll have a direct link into the entire library of each studio. Any movie you want, any time you want.
Local storage for the movie collectors? Sure, if you feel you want it. Chips, bubble memory, or some new, currently unknown technology will allow you to store a movie's 1s and 0s at home. But if EVERYONE has immediate access to ALL media content, what's the point of collecting copies? If the cost to access is less than the cost to store, say "bye, bye" to home collections.
DVD might possibly be the last "physical" media with HD-DVD, and blue laser technology being accepted only by the "philes".
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Re: It's a wire!!!!!
Originally posted by DiscGuy
Say goodbye to all physical media.
Sall hello to on-line, real time access to huge movie databases. It's all ones and zero's folks. We just need connectivity and bandwidth. Soon we'll have a direct link into the entire library of each studio. Any movie you want, any time you want.
Local storage for the movie collectors? Sure, if you feel you want it. Chips, bubble memory, or some new, currently unknown technology will allow you to store a movie's 1s and 0s at home. But if EVERYONE has immediate access to ALL media content, what's the point of collecting copies? If the cost to access is less than the cost to store, say "bye, bye" to home collections.
DVD might possibly be the last "physical" media with HD-DVD, and blue laser technology being accepted only by the "philes".
Say goodbye to all physical media.
Sall hello to on-line, real time access to huge movie databases. It's all ones and zero's folks. We just need connectivity and bandwidth. Soon we'll have a direct link into the entire library of each studio. Any movie you want, any time you want.
Local storage for the movie collectors? Sure, if you feel you want it. Chips, bubble memory, or some new, currently unknown technology will allow you to store a movie's 1s and 0s at home. But if EVERYONE has immediate access to ALL media content, what's the point of collecting copies? If the cost to access is less than the cost to store, say "bye, bye" to home collections.
DVD might possibly be the last "physical" media with HD-DVD, and blue laser technology being accepted only by the "philes".
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I laugh at the idea of paying to watch a movie every single time I want to see it. I will never except on demand as a way to watch movies. A lot of people will always want to actually own their movies. They may end up on smaller discs or chips at some point in the far future, but we will always want to have movie libraries.
On demand will never replace actually owning your movies, music and video games
On demand will never replace actually owning your movies, music and video games
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From what's been posted here, the format the DVD forum adopted for HD-DVD is backwards compatible with DVD, but the format Sony and friends wanted is not (but is going to be in PS3 for sure and there may be a format war). I've just taken backwards compatibility with DVDs in HD-DVD machines for granted because if it's not, the format is going to fail or take a very long time to be adopted.
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considering what happened with larry ellison's "network device" instead of a PC on everyones desk, I can't imagine "on demand" movies getty any farther. People will not succumb to "big brother" in a way like that. We are too spoiled with controlling our own possesions. For every protection or copyguard type scheme, there is 100 people working hard to get around it upon its release. This scenario has played out too many times for it to stop now.
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Originally posted by cloudnin
From what's been posted here, the format the DVD forum adopted for HD-DVD is backwards compatible with DVD, but the format Sony and friends wanted is not (but is going to be in PS3 for sure and there may be a format war). I've just taken backwards compatibility with DVDs in HD-DVD machines for granted because if it's not, the format is going to fail or take a very long time to be adopted.
From what's been posted here, the format the DVD forum adopted for HD-DVD is backwards compatible with DVD, but the format Sony and friends wanted is not (but is going to be in PS3 for sure and there may be a format war). I've just taken backwards compatibility with DVDs in HD-DVD machines for granted because if it's not, the format is going to fail or take a very long time to be adopted.
It's no big deal if Blue-Ray is NOT backwards compatible since all that is needed to make a Blue-Ray machine compatible with current DVD's is a second laser pickup that will read them. This is how DVD players started out with dual laser pickups until recently when they developed all-in-one laser pickups that read DVD and CD's both.
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Originally posted by darkside
I laugh at the idea of paying to watch a movie every single time I want to see it. I will never except on demand as a way to watch movies. A lot of people will always want to actually own their movies. They may end up on smaller discs or chips at some point in the far future, but we will always want to have movie libraries.
On demand will never replace actually owning your movies, music and video games
I laugh at the idea of paying to watch a movie every single time I want to see it. I will never except on demand as a way to watch movies. A lot of people will always want to actually own their movies. They may end up on smaller discs or chips at some point in the far future, but we will always want to have movie libraries.
On demand will never replace actually owning your movies, music and video games
Depends on the numbers. If the cost to download and watch a movie were 1/100th of the cost of owning a physical copy, and for that 1/100th of the cost you would have access to EVERYTHING...owning your own library would have no advantatges. The collector would be paying 100 times the costs to maintain a limited number of movies while his neighbor would be paying 1/100th the cost to have access to ANY title imaginable.
How many titles would you buy today at $20.00 each if you had instant digital access to ANY title for $0.20 each time? Physical media will one day (probably in our life times) become obsolete.
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I know that we will eventually copy our DVDs, home movies, etc. bit for bit into video hard drive servers and stream them to TV.
The DVDs will hit the basement and all purchases made in the future will be directly copied to the video hard drive or downloaded to it.
Such a product is already out but is a bit pricey, the winner of the CEDIA Best Video Product award.
www.kaleidescape.com for more info.
The DVDs will hit the basement and all purchases made in the future will be directly copied to the video hard drive or downloaded to it.
Such a product is already out but is a bit pricey, the winner of the CEDIA Best Video Product award.
www.kaleidescape.com for more info.
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Respectfully disagree.
Depends on the numbers. If the cost to download and watch a movie were 1/100th of the cost of owning a physical copy, and for that 1/100th of the cost you would have access to EVERYTHING...owning your own library would have no advantatges. The collector would be paying 100 times the costs to maintain a limited number of movies while his neighbor would be paying 1/100th the cost to have access to ANY title imaginable.
How many titles would you buy today at $20.00 each if you had instant digital access to ANY title for $0.20 each time? Physical media will one day (probably in our life times) become obsolete.
Respectfully disagree.
Depends on the numbers. If the cost to download and watch a movie were 1/100th of the cost of owning a physical copy, and for that 1/100th of the cost you would have access to EVERYTHING...owning your own library would have no advantatges. The collector would be paying 100 times the costs to maintain a limited number of movies while his neighbor would be paying 1/100th the cost to have access to ANY title imaginable.
How many titles would you buy today at $20.00 each if you had instant digital access to ANY title for $0.20 each time? Physical media will one day (probably in our life times) become obsolete.
I agree with you that physical media will eventually become obsolete. When downloads take over, they will probably be sold/distributed much in the same way music downloads (legitimate ones) are today - you will be able to pay a set fee for a one-time or 24 hour, etc. viewing, or pay a higher cost for a permanent copy with unrestricted viewing for personal use.
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There is a VERY LARGE crowd of collectors (like myself) who will NOT buy into the VOD crapola that will leave us paying more for less in the long run. I like to have my film "in hand" and not subject to Internet downloads that could leave you with interrupted streams or overly compressed video to get the size down to be downloadable.
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Backwards compatibility shouldn't be an issue. If the new format isn't backwards compatible, you will see an endless mass of double sided machines that will play DVD and HD-DVD, just like the VCR and DVD machines out now. There may even be a triple machine with DVD, HD-DVD and VCR, now thats scary.
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Originally posted by DiscGuy
How many titles would you buy today at $20.00 each if you had instant digital access to ANY title for $0.20 each time? Physical media will one day (probably in our life times) become obsolete.
How many titles would you buy today at $20.00 each if you had instant digital access to ANY title for $0.20 each time? Physical media will one day (probably in our life times) become obsolete.
Another problem is that even the fastest current broadband connection is too slow to stream DVD quality video. I'm just not convinced there will be that many changes and improvements in technology in my lifetime to make this idea of everything being online or on demand happen.
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Key words: instant - reliable - cheap - quality
Originally posted by Roy28
I doubt the numbers will be this low though. In this case, I think the cost would be comparable to rental/PPV charges - since this is essentially what it is. For movies that you watch often, it would probably still be cheaper to own a physical copy or an unrestricted permanent download.
I agree with you that physical media will eventually become obsolete. When downloads take over, they will probably be sold/distributed much in the same way music downloads (legitimate ones) are today - you will be able to pay a set fee for a one-time or 24 hour, etc. viewing, or pay a higher cost for a permanent copy with unrestricted viewing for personal use.
I doubt the numbers will be this low though. In this case, I think the cost would be comparable to rental/PPV charges - since this is essentially what it is. For movies that you watch often, it would probably still be cheaper to own a physical copy or an unrestricted permanent download.
I agree with you that physical media will eventually become obsolete. When downloads take over, they will probably be sold/distributed much in the same way music downloads (legitimate ones) are today - you will be able to pay a set fee for a one-time or 24 hour, etc. viewing, or pay a higher cost for a permanent copy with unrestricted viewing for personal use.
Originally posted by Frank S
There is a VERY LARGE crowd of collectors (like myself) who will NOT buy into the VOD crapola that will leave us paying more for less in the long run. I like to have my film "in hand" and not subject to Internet downloads that could leave you with interrupted streams or overly compressed video to get the size down to be downloadable.
There is a VERY LARGE crowd of collectors (like myself) who will NOT buy into the VOD crapola that will leave us paying more for less in the long run. I like to have my film "in hand" and not subject to Internet downloads that could leave you with interrupted streams or overly compressed video to get the size down to be downloadable.
Originally posted by darkside
Another problem is that even the fastest current broadband connection is too slow to stream DVD quality video. I'm just not convinced there will be that many changes and improvements in technology in my lifetime to make this idea of everything being online or on demand happen.
Another problem is that even the fastest current broadband connection is too slow to stream DVD quality video. I'm just not convinced there will be that many changes and improvements in technology in my lifetime to make this idea of everything being online or on demand happen.