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UncleCaveman 12-24-03 09:55 PM

What the hell is wrong with the quadrilogy
 
I did a search, and i noticed that alot of people are having skipping problems with the quadrilogy. Well i have 2 DVD players, on the Ps2, the alien directors cut kept skipping, and it eventualy said the disk was unreadable. then, i put it in my dvd player, and it skips ocasionally, but whats really annoying is it will play parts of scenes twice. I checked the discs and they are fine... what the hell is wrong with the quadrilogy

gutwrencher 12-24-03 10:00 PM

hard to say. many players are having issues with some of the discs...mostly Alien DC. it has problems on 2 of my players...plays fine on the other 2 or 3. the only people who care right now are the ones who cant enjoy it because of these problems. welcome to quality control central...."where we dont give a crap". it might be some time before you hear anything from the the studio...I'm sure they think all is well and our lense just needs cleaning.-rolleyes-

scroll2b 12-24-03 10:40 PM

Christ, I was just about to start a thread about this! The only reason I bought this set was because of Aliens, and the insane extras packed onto this. Well, both the theatrical and special editions skip at the end, during the last 15 or so minutes!!!!!!

Anyone else having problems with disc three? God damn it. DDD better be good about this, unless all the discs will be like this.... And I really hate online returns, too..... :mad:

UncleCaveman 12-24-03 11:30 PM

Well, on all the discs of the movies, it always jumps to random parts, which is really really annoying

gcribbs 12-24-03 11:38 PM

what players do you have.

I have not had any problems with my panasonic rp62.

blindrocket 12-24-03 11:45 PM

As I said in another post, no problems at all with the Quadrilogy and my Pioneer player.

I'm curious as to what the players are everyone is having probs with and if there may be some kind of connection.

UncleCaveman 12-25-03 12:45 AM

I have a Ps2, and a raite avphile 715

nazz 12-25-03 12:56 AM

Mine play okay on my Toshiba SD-9200

d2cheer 12-25-03 01:31 AM

Sounds like certain players are having issues with them. NO problems with the Malata N996.

Caliking 12-25-03 02:53 AM

i havent watched em all yet but i have watched 2 discs and had no probs on my integra.

Count de Monet 12-25-03 03:20 AM

I've had zero problems on either of my Pioneers or any of my computers. Seamless branching problems always seem to haunt older players. And no snobbery intended, but is a PS2 really a good way to be watching these discs? I don't have a PS2, that's why I'm asking.

Perkinsun Dzees 12-25-03 04:29 AM

I've had no problems playing the set on my Supercalifragilstic CX560, my Pomegrante 3576 or my Penandteller 8900. However, I did notice some severe skipping problems on my Juicemaster FX5000 and Cornholio 3000. So, I'm guessing it's a player specific problem and not necessarily the discs themselves.

TomOpus 12-25-03 07:50 AM

Still plowing through my discs but no probs so far... Toshiba SD4800.

paulbh 12-25-03 07:57 AM

I have watched disc 3, Aliens DC, on my Panasonic RP-91 without any issues. That is all I have tried so far.

speedy1961 12-25-03 08:05 AM

I've only had about 20 seconds of pixellation at Chapter 23 of Aliens Special edition. Otherwise, everything has been great! My player is a Pioneer 525.

steebo777 12-25-03 08:15 AM

No problems with any of the discs on my Denon DVD-1600.

Fed-Ex Pope 12-25-03 08:48 AM

no problems on my panasonic (and it can be very picky about what discs it plays problem free) although I would like to gripe about having to super-glue the clear plastic backing that contains the spindlefor 3 of the discs...

scroll2b 12-25-03 09:09 AM

Cyberhome 402
 
I have a CyberHome 402. It's multi-region, which is why I wanted it.

Aliens grinds to halt, freezes, and sometimes skips around with the ending, no matter what the audio track. Sometimes it would help if I ejected the disc, or rewinded a little, but only briefly. It seems like that part of the movie can't be read, like it's too dense for the player. I checked the discs, and they're immaculate. Perfect. Nothing looks wrong with them.

My player didn't cost a fortune, but still, this is rediculous. Plus, it's my only player.... (And, I have the same problems with Fargo.)

Maybe I should check for a bios update or whatever...... hmm....

matome 12-25-03 09:10 AM

No probs on my Sony NS 900V. Actually I've never had a problem with discs on it ever.

gcribbs 12-25-03 09:14 AM

Re: Cyberhome 402
 

Originally posted by scroll2b
I have a CyberHome 402. It's multi-region, which is why I wanted it.

Aliens grinds to halt, freezes, and sometimes skips around with the ending, no matter what the audio track. Sometimes it would help if I ejected the disc, or rewinded a little, but only briefly. It seems like that part of the movie can't be read, like it's too dense for the player. I checked the discs, and they're immaculate. Perfect. Nothing looks wrong with them.

My player didn't cost a fortune, but still, this is rediculous. Plus, it's my only player.... (And, I have the same problems with Fargo.)

Maybe I should check for a bios update or whatever...... hmm....

The bad thing about dvd is that many dvd players can have problems with dvd's that are badly mastered or try things out of the norm(like seamless branching).

I own a number of players for this reason.

Panasonic rp62
toshiba 3900
cyberhome 300
sony ns 500v
an older PS2 with dvd remote to update dvd drivers.

two of my players are multiregion also.

Kind of pathetic huh :)

Mok 12-25-03 09:16 AM

I have watched everything already on my Toshiba SD-1600 with no problems.

scroll2b 12-25-03 09:48 AM

Re: Re: Cyberhome 402
 

Originally posted by gcribbs
The bad thing about dvd is that many dvd players can have problems with dvd's that are badly mastered or try things out of the norm(like seamless branching).

I own a number of players for this reason.

Panasonic rp62
toshiba 3900
cyberhome 300
sony ns 500v
an older PS2 with dvd remote to update dvd drivers.

two of my players are multiregion also.

Kind of pathetic huh :)

Wait a minute, are you too having a problem with your Cyberhome? I never had a problem with T2: Ultimate Edition, so I don't get it. It can't be seamless branching.... plus, the middle of the movie played beautifully, so I don't understand it. :(

Buck Turgidson 12-25-03 12:12 PM

Re: Re: Cyberhome 402
 

Originally posted by gcribbs
I own a number of players for this reason.

Panasonic rp62
toshiba 3900
cyberhome 300
sony ns 500v
an older PS2 with dvd remote to update dvd drivers.

two of my players are multiregion also.

Kind of pathetic huh :)
Try "Kind of awe-inspiring", instead :cool:

gcribbs 12-25-03 01:25 PM

Re: Re: Re: Cyberhome 402
 

Originally posted by scroll2b
Wait a minute, are you too having a problem with your Cyberhome? I never had a problem with T2: Ultimate Edition, so I don't get it. It can't be seamless branching.... plus, the middle of the movie played beautifully, so I don't understand it. :(
it depends how it is mastered. some companies push the envelope and as a result certain players have problems.

I just picked up the cyberhome so I will pop in one to test it this weekend.

I will try Aliens in it. which version did you try? Directors or theatrical?

scroll2b 12-25-03 01:29 PM

Both versions of Aliens, with and without the commentaries. Thanks gcribbs. I appreciate it.

eddiekirk 12-25-03 03:32 PM

Haven't had skipping yet...

Again to Sony DVD player owners:

Anyone have the Alien 3 SE subtitle problem? Turn subtitles OFF, as a result "Special Edition" appears onscreen during every SE scene.

BananaMan 12-25-03 04:04 PM


Originally posted by eddiekirk
Haven't had skipping yet...

Again to Sony DVD player owners:

Anyone have the Alien 3 SE subtitle problem? Turn subtitles OFF, as a result "Special Edition" appears onscreen during every SE scene.

Happens with my Daewoo 5700 too. I turned the subtitle option off and got the "Special Edition" markers instead throughout the movie.

I have requested a replacement Quad set from Amazon because I received ALien: Directors Cut had three deep scratches on it which made the disc unplayable. Aliens won't play at all and there are three skips during the middle portion of Alien 3.

Willh51 12-25-03 04:44 PM

I haven't had any problems at all so far, but I'll let you know if anything happens.

Rammsteinfan 12-25-03 08:32 PM

0 problems with the movies themselves yet... only watched Disc 2 for extras. So far so good!

scroll2b 12-25-03 10:55 PM

Positive Update!
 
Okay, it wasn't the dang dvds or the Cyberhome after all. I suddenly remembered the advent of the lens cleaner, and searched for it. Finally, I was able to use it and, voilą, everything works smooth now. Except Fargo SE's ch. 25-26 on the widescreen side. But that's getting exchanged tomorrow, so......

Anyway, thanks everyone!! Remember, always keep the lens cleaner handy!

necros 12-25-03 11:18 PM

The only thing wrong with my Quadrilogy is that I need a 5 foot long table to open the whole thing up :)

Bluebomber 12-25-03 11:26 PM

Well I noticed about 5-15 random seconds of pixelation throughout Alien DC , but it never stopped playing. Using a Panasonic Rp56 , going to track down a lense cleaner and see if that helps.

blindrocket 12-25-03 11:28 PM


Originally posted by necros
The only thing wrong with my Quadrilogy is that I need a 5 foot long table to open the whole thing up :)


rotfl

chess 12-26-03 12:28 AM

i think i've watched all of the extended cuts, and the only problem was a slight hiccup (not a layer change) on the alien SE.

panasonic DVD-R/RAM FWIW

gcribbs 12-26-03 12:50 AM

Re: Positive Update!
 

Originally posted by scroll2b
Okay, it wasn't the dang dvds or the Cyberhome after all. I suddenly remembered the advent of the lens cleaner, and searched for it. Finally, I was able to use it and, voilą, everything works smooth now. Except Fargo SE's ch. 25-26 on the widescreen side. But that's getting exchanged tomorrow, so......

Anyway, thanks everyone!! Remember, always keep the lens cleaner handy!

Good to hear.

I guess I do not need to watch Aliens then although I might force myself to watch Aliens with my cyberhome anyway :)

caiman 12-26-03 12:58 AM

Well, Alien skips in a couple spots on my Sony player. I tried it on my Pioneer DVD Rom and it was fine. I haven't checked to see if there are any other problems.

So the big question is, what should I do about it? It's obvious this is a widespread problem. Will the studio do something? Or should I just return it to DDD and hope I get a good copy?

keyed 12-26-03 03:07 AM

I've watched the extended version of both Alien 3 & Resurrection so far, and both skipped. Resurrection skipped on a scene change, so it might have been a layer change problem. I don't recall when it happened in Alien 3, just that it did.

Oh, and the dvd player was a Philips model.

Tarnower 12-26-03 06:46 AM

I have avoided buying this, since I really dislike Alien 3 and Resurrection. So I'm waiting the buy Alien and Aliens in January. They will be stand-alone titles, although 2-disc sets. I am wondering if the discs will be the same discs that are in the current Quadrilogy, just packaged in different casings? I have a feeling they are. Actually, it wouldn't make sense that new transfers be done so close to the release of the Quadrilogy. I guess I just answered my own question. Still, if one has to return the movies, at least it's just the individual title as opposed to a 9-disc box set. Then you to re-watch the whole friggin' thing to make sure there aren't other areas that are misbehaving. It sounds like the studio is going to have some mega-returns from retailers (online and brick-and-mortar). I wonder how long it will be before we get some statement on this situation from the studio?

TomOpus 12-26-03 09:16 AM

1) It's been discussed in another thread that the individual releases will be the same discs as in the Quadrilogy

2) Don't you usually only have to return the affected discs? Only seems like a few are having problems with a couple of the discs. If Fox does a "recall" then I'm sure they'll handle it like other studios and you only send in the problematic discs.

folgersnyourcup 12-26-03 11:41 AM

I've got a question regarding the packaging of the set. I understand that sometime next month these 4 films will be released separately. I purchased the quadrilogy but don't like the packaging, the plastic housing for disc 2 and disc 7 has come completely off of the glue holding it there and the case is hard to open because it sticks to it when I try to unfold it. I am wondering if it will be a possibility to try and pay Fox to get the individual cases that these films will be released in....


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