View Poll Results: What should Warner Bros. do with the "politically incorrect" Looney Tunes?
Release them with the rest of the cartoons . . . everyone should see them!



58
47.15%
I can't believe they were made to begin with . . . keep them for historical record, but certainly don't release them.



5
4.07%
Release a special collection of the "questionable" toons for those who are interested . . .



59
47.97%
Other . . . ? (elaborate below)



1
0.81%
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#26
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Originally posted by garolo
What do 40 year olds have to do with these toons? And WB could not "destroy" the prints. They may own the rights to them (for now) but they don't have in their possesion all of the copies in existence.
What do 40 year olds have to do with these toons? And WB could not "destroy" the prints. They may own the rights to them (for now) but they don't have in their possesion all of the copies in existence.
Yes Warner might not own every copy but they are the ones that would create the DVDs. Who cares if Joe Smoe has the cartoon on video, but if Warner doesn't own a copy, they can't put it out.
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I don't know what will happen with the gay marriage things, but that's another major shift--if gay marriages are institutionalized in all 50 states, should we ban movies where gays are ostracized?
I don't know what will happen with the gay marriage things, but that's another major shift--if gay marriages are institutionalized in all 50 states, should we ban movies where gays are ostracized?
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From: Exit 10, NJ
Originally posted by resinrats
Its only the 30-40 year old people that are complaining about not having these. You won't hear some kid asking for them.
Yes Warner might not own every copy but they are the ones that would create the DVDs. Who cares if Joe Smoe has the cartoon on video, but if Warner doesn't own a copy, they can't put it out.
Its only the 30-40 year old people that are complaining about not having these. You won't hear some kid asking for them.
Yes Warner might not own every copy but they are the ones that would create the DVDs. Who cares if Joe Smoe has the cartoon on video, but if Warner doesn't own a copy, they can't put it out.
Some of us are completists. Some just love anything from Termite Terrace. We complain because it's something we can't have (at least for now). No one that I know, whines about it.
IIRC, Coal Black is without a doubt, Clampett's masterpiece of animation. Yes it politically incorrect and offensive by today's mores. But unlike Amos and Andy, black actors voiced the characters. I don't know if that makes a difference to caricatures but it does lend credence to the notion that the intent was not malicious or exploitive.
I happen to own these cartoons on VHS. They are really grainy, nth generation copies. I would love to have a digital copy of them. But that will probably not happen soon.
Once these cartoons pass into the public domain, that is the copyrights expire, anyone is free to sell it. Copyrights don't last forever.
And if you want to read some whining, take a look at any Star Wars thread.
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Originally posted by resinrats
I'm sure Warners will do something so they don't loose the copywrites.
I'm sure Warners will do something so they don't loose the copywrites.
Film copyrights expire after 90 years after the initial release. They could expire sooner if not renewed regularly. Music copyrights are generally kept in sync with the film and story but I believe 70 years is the limit on music. So around 2034, most of the WB WWII propaganda and race cartoons will be available for use and sale by PD distributors. But DVD and maybe even HD-DVD will have gone the way of the kinescope by then.
And I don't mean to get too pedantic but copywrite(r) is someone who writes advertising or publicity releases. A copyright is the right or entitlement to reproduce or sell a musical, written or otherwise artistic piece of work.
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It's the 40-year-olds who want to see these cartoons!
It's the pinheads who want supress anything that is slightly offensive that are the problem. (Of course, we can't have Coal Black, but it's OK to have someone shot to bits or use the F-word 287 times)
It's the pinheads who want supress anything that is slightly offensive that are the problem. (Of course, we can't have Coal Black, but it's OK to have someone shot to bits or use the F-word 287 times)
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It's the pinheads who want supress anything that is slightly offensive that are the problem.
It'd be like Volkswagon releasing a special, limited edition "built with slave labor" New Beetle.
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I would hardly classify a piece of work called Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs as "slightly" offensive. Lets be realistic, folks, WB would never actively call attention to an embarrasing era of their history.
How is it part of an embarassing era in their history? Coal Black was produced in the 1940's... Warner Bros. was releasing some of their best stuff in the first half of that decade.
If we encourage WB in releasing these objectionable shorts, we'll see them. If we keep applying our modern viewpoints, we won't.



