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Old 11-03-03 | 09:14 AM
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Raiders of the Lost Arc "Mistake?"

I'm not sure if this would be a mistake, or just some great acting:

My wife and I were watching ROTLA on Sunday. At the end of the movie, when Indy is on the ridge with the missle launcher threatening to blow up the arc if they don't relase Marion to him, she started laughing. She made me rewind, only to see that when Belloq is calling Indy's bluff, a fly lands on his chin, then appears to walk into his mouth! Belloq never even flinches!!! We rewound twice, and even zoomed, and sure enough, neither one of us saw the fly leave his face!! Has anyone else seen this? I give kudos to the actor playing Belloq; he kept his lines perfect!!
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Old 11-03-03 | 09:18 AM
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oh no, don't give spielberg anymore ideas.
I can see the commericals now.
"coming next year, raiders of the lost ark special edition. Now with no mistakes at all!!! See indy lose his hat, see all mirrors digitally erased. And now, for the first time ever, no Flys!"
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yeah I noticed that too, I would have screwed up that scene if I were the one acting in it.
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Old 11-03-03 | 09:37 AM
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Yeah, I noticed that years ago when I was watching Raiders.

Also, as you probably already know when Ian MacKellan hits his head in Bilbo's house, that wasn't rehearsed either. He really hit his head and he kept right on acting without missing a beat. Peter Jackson liked it so much he kept it in.

Those are the type of moments when you know you've got a real pro for an actor.
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Raiders of the Lost Arc "Mistake?"

You made a "mistake" in the title of the film.
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Old 11-03-03 | 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by Captain Harlock
Also, as you probably already know when Ian MacKellan hits his head in Bilbo's house, that wasn't rehearsed either. He really hit his head and he kept right on acting without missing a beat. Peter Jackson liked it so much he kept it in.

Those are the type of moments when you know you've got a real pro for an actor.
I had wondered about that head bumping thing. Being 6'8" myself, that head bump looked a little to familiar and realistic to have been acted out. That's great . . . it's the same kind of thing as the "whip and the swordsman" fight scene in Raiders.
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Old 11-03-03 | 11:02 AM
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Re: Raiders of the Lost Arc "Mistake?"

Originally posted by movielib
You made a "mistake" in the title of the film.
I swear, these are the most misspelled movie titles on this forum. If it's not "Indian Jones" it's "Raiders of the Lost Arc."
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Re: Re: Raiders of the Lost Arc "Mistake?"

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I swear, these are the most misspelled movie titles on this forum. If it's not "Indian Jones" it's "Raiders of the Lost Arc."
Or, as George Lucas would say "Indian Jones and The Raiders of the Lost Arc".

By the way, anyone ever figure out why Indy's plane leaves his college from San Francisco in RAIDERS, but leaves his college from New York in CRUSADE? Did he move to a college that had the exact same classroom as the one he taught at in San Francisco?
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Re: Re: Re: Raiders of the Lost Arc "Mistake?"

Originally posted by Spooky
By the way, anyone ever figure out why Indy's plane leaves his college from San Francisco in RAIDERS, but leaves his college from New York in CRUSADE?
During WWII they moved San Francisco to New York as it was being threatened by the Japanese. By having both SF and NY in the same spot they were also able to shore up some loose defenses on the East coast. Don't you watch the History Channel?
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I noticed this back in 1982 when my folks and I rented the movie... we musta rewound it a dozen times watching the fly appear to go into Bellouq's mouth.. too funny... "you're going to give mercenary a bad name."
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Old 11-03-03 | 02:41 PM
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Re: Raiders of the Lost Arc "Mistake?"

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...when Belloq is calling Indy's bluff, a fly lands on his chin, then appears to walk into his mouth! Belloq never even flinches!!!
Hence the need for commentaries on these discs. What I want to know about is the scene where Indy meets Belloq in the bar in Cairo. Belloq says, "Sit down before you fall down." When Indy starts to sit down, he does this strange small jerk, like he's having a back spasm or the monkey's clawing him or something. Since Harrison did some of his own stunts and he wasn't doing too well intestinally speaking (the story behind shooting the swordsman), maybe he really was in pain.

The first time I saw it, I thought it was just a shrug. But subsequent views make me think there's something else to it. For those of you who didn't notice that jerk before, after you go back and see it, you won't be able to help but notice it.
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Old 11-03-03 | 04:43 PM
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Yeah, I noticed that too... I just thought I was seeing things but sure enough, it was a fly. Hehe... mmm tasty.
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Old 11-03-03 | 05:37 PM
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The fly has always been there. I have noticed that for 2o years every time I ever watched no matter what format.
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Old 11-03-03 | 06:24 PM
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Not only has the fly always been there, it was a happy accident helped by an editing trick by film editor Michael Kahn.

In an interview with Paul Freeman, the actor who played Belloq, Freeman said that a fly landed on his face during filming, then simply flew away. But Kahn cut the two frames of film where you could see the fly take off, giving the illusion that the fly went into Belloq's mouth.

If you watch closely, you can barely tell frames are missing.
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Old 11-03-03 | 06:44 PM
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You guys have excellent eyes to see so much details like that. I have to watch out for that fly next time I watch Raider of the Lost Ark.
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ON a good system you can even hear the fly buzz in from the right and then suddenly stop buzzing once it hits his mouth.


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Old 11-03-03 | 09:53 PM
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Originally posted by Captain Harlock
Yeah, I noticed that years ago when I was watching Raiders.

Also, as you probably already know when Ian MacKellan hits his head in Bilbo's house, that wasn't rehearsed either. He really hit his head and he kept right on acting without missing a beat. Peter Jackson liked it so much he kept it in.

Those are the type of moments when you know you've got a real pro for an actor.
I once read that during filming of ESB, the part where Luke starts to stand up and cracks his head on the ceiling was shot like 18 times or something, and he was really hitting his head. They ended up using the first take.
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There's a great scene in Temple of Doom where Indy is taller than the sky (matte painting) behind him. Just priceless, seeing Indy's hat extend above the SKY!

I'm going to try to find it tonight and post a capture.
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Old 11-04-03 | 09:38 AM
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the 'mistake' I thought they were going to clean up for the DVD, but didn't, was when Indy moves the block out of the Well of Souls and the shadow of the block 'bounces' (it's still there).
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Re: Re: Raiders of the Lost Arc "Mistake?"

Originally posted by RKillgore
Hence the need for commentaries on these discs. What I want to know about is the scene where Indy meets Belloq in the bar in Cairo. Belloq says, "Sit down before you fall down." When Indy starts to sit down, he does this strange small jerk, like he's having a back spasm or the monkey's clawing him or something. Since Harrison did some of his own stunts and he wasn't doing too well intestinally speaking (the story behind shooting the swordsman), maybe he really was in pain.

The first time I saw it, I thought it was just a shrug. But subsequent views make me think there's something else to it. For those of you who didn't notice that jerk before, after you go back and see it, you won't be able to help but notice it.
I just assumed that Indy had decided to get trashed, they were in a bar, after all.
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