Indy "Temple"? PG or Misprint?
10-21-03, 07:46 PM
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Indy "Temple"? PG or Misprint?
I'm watching the bonus disc and Spielberg just talked about getting the PG-13 created for Temple Of Doom, but the packages have a PG rating on them. Is it a misprint on the DVD box or something else.
10-21-03, 07:55 PM
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The PG-13 rating was made because of Temple of Doom, but it only affected movies rated afterwards. I bet if they had made edits to Temple of Doom to force a re-rating, it would have gotten PG-13.
10-21-03, 10:47 PM
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Nope, it wasn't for Gremlins.
Though it's a part of film lore, I guess a lot of people don't know this. The PG-13 rating didn't exist when Temple of Doom was rated. It earned a PG rating for precisely the same reason that Saving Private Ryan earned an R rating: it was a Spielberg film and what Spielberg wants, he gets. After there was a general outcry about the increased level of violence in ToD, especially concerning an infamous (and totally awesome!) scene involving a heart getting ripped out of someone's chest, the MPAA decided after the release of ToD to create a new rating inbetween R and PG, called PG-13.
There, now you know the story.
Though it's a part of film lore, I guess a lot of people don't know this. The PG-13 rating didn't exist when Temple of Doom was rated. It earned a PG rating for precisely the same reason that Saving Private Ryan earned an R rating: it was a Spielberg film and what Spielberg wants, he gets. After there was a general outcry about the increased level of violence in ToD, especially concerning an infamous (and totally awesome!) scene involving a heart getting ripped out of someone's chest, the MPAA decided after the release of ToD to create a new rating inbetween R and PG, called PG-13.
There, now you know the story.
10-21-03, 11:40 PM
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Originally posted by Mr. Cornell
There, now you know the story.
There, now you know the story.
. Seriously though, I attented a lecture held by a film producer/director at USC a few years ago and he went off on this whole tangent about how Gremlins prompted the creation of the PG-13 rating, and I've heard/read this several other times. Of course, during the same lecture he claimed (rather arrogantly) that he directed most of Family Plot because of Hitchcock's failing health, so I probably shouldn't have put much stock in what he said.
In any case, thanks for the info.
Roy
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10-21-03, 11:50 PM
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It was a combination of "Gremlins" and "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" that resulted in the PG-13 rating. "Temple" was definitely the straw that broke the camel's back but "Gremlins" was a big factor, too.
10-22-03, 06:45 AM
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I had heard Poltergeist was also a contributing factor to the PG-13 rating in addition to Temple of Doom and Gremlins. (All three featuring Speilberg as either the director or producer!) But I'm pretty sure the first PG-13 movie was Red Dawn.
10-22-03, 07:01 AM
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As I recall Red Dawn was the first movie released with a PG-13, but I believe there was another movie that got it first but came out a little later...The Flamingo Kid I believe.
10-22-03, 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by Snowmaker
What was the first movie to actually be rated PG-13 then?
For some reason, I've always thought it is Red Dawn.
What was the first movie to actually be rated PG-13 then?
For some reason, I've always thought it is Red Dawn.
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Oops, here's the answer I guess:
http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-194.html
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10-22-03, 01:05 PM
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And nowadays, the violence in both films would be considered mild and both would probably get PG. Actually, both would probably wind up with more violence added to them to bump it up to PG-13.
10-22-03, 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by RevLiver
And nowadays, the violence in both films would be considered mild and both would probably get PG. Actually, both would probably wind up with more violence added to them to bump it up to PG-13.
And nowadays, the violence in both films would be considered mild and both would probably get PG. Actually, both would probably wind up with more violence added to them to bump it up to PG-13.
10-22-03, 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by RevLiver
And nowadays, the violence in both films would be considered mild and both would probably get PG. Actually, both would probably wind up with more violence added to them to bump it up to PG-13.
And nowadays, the violence in both films would be considered mild and both would probably get PG. Actually, both would probably wind up with more violence added to them to bump it up to PG-13.
10-22-03, 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by Mr. Cornell
It earned a PG rating for precisely the same reason that Saving Private Ryan earned an R rating: it was a Spielberg film and what Spielberg wants, he gets.
It earned a PG rating for precisely the same reason that Saving Private Ryan earned an R rating: it was a Spielberg film and what Spielberg wants, he gets.
And I think it's questionable at best to say that Temple of Doom would have gotten an R rating if not for Spielberg either. It deserved a PG-13 sure, but back then before the PG-13 rating, there were alot of PG films that were pushing the envelope and getting away with it. Just look at The Beastmaster. It had violence, nudity, human sacrifices, the whole bit and it still got away with it. It probably would have gotten an R today, but it certainly wasn't Don Conscarelli's sway over the MPAA that got it a PG.
10-22-03, 03:35 PM
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I've always heard that the PG-13 Rating was created for Gremlins.
10-22-03, 04:24 PM
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From: http://dvd.ign.com/articles/454/454424p2.html
"Are you trying to develop a sense of humor or am I going deaf?" - Indiana Jones
By 1984, George Lucas and Steven Spielberg had given the world Star Wars, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Jaws and E.T.. Add to it, Raiders of the Lost Ark. Audiences couldn't wait for another dose of their favorite adventurer, and they got it.
They also got a lot more than they expected. Lucas, going through a divorce at the time, figures he was in a bad mood and that led to the dark tone of this film. It got a PG rating, but such a stink was raised over its horrific scenes, like a beating heart in a man's hand and human sacrifice, that Spielberg went to Jack Valenti, the head of the Motion Picture Association of America, and asked for a rating between PG and R. Valenti produced, and the PG-13 rating was born.
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom has its detractors, Spielberg being one of them. He felt they went too far with this one and the only good thing he got out of it was Kate Capshaw. You can decide if he's right. I don't remember my reactions to the film when it first ran in 1984, except for wishing Willie would STFU, or die, whichever worked for me. But it is definitely one of the harshest PG movies out there.
"Are you trying to develop a sense of humor or am I going deaf?" - Indiana Jones
By 1984, George Lucas and Steven Spielberg had given the world Star Wars, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Jaws and E.T.. Add to it, Raiders of the Lost Ark. Audiences couldn't wait for another dose of their favorite adventurer, and they got it.
They also got a lot more than they expected. Lucas, going through a divorce at the time, figures he was in a bad mood and that led to the dark tone of this film. It got a PG rating, but such a stink was raised over its horrific scenes, like a beating heart in a man's hand and human sacrifice, that Spielberg went to Jack Valenti, the head of the Motion Picture Association of America, and asked for a rating between PG and R. Valenti produced, and the PG-13 rating was born.
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom has its detractors, Spielberg being one of them. He felt they went too far with this one and the only good thing he got out of it was Kate Capshaw. You can decide if he's right. I don't remember my reactions to the film when it first ran in 1984, except for wishing Willie would STFU, or die, whichever worked for me. But it is definitely one of the harshest PG movies out there.