Truman was to much of a pussywimp to let McCarthur go in and kill those Commie bastards?

Holy threadcraps.

Holy Missed "Back To School" Reference!

Well, why is it OK to have it in French and Portugese on the DVD then??

I never asked for opinions, just if there is an English version. I prefer dubbing to reading a movie. If I wanted to read it, I'd buy the novel.

So I guess anyone not wanting a dubbed version of El Mariachi refuses to watch three movies that inspired Robert Rodriguez to make his trilogy:

Fistful of Dollars
For a Few Dollars More
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

I knew I'd get a flame for my comment about the dub being okay. Maybe I should go watch it again. Maybe I'll try the original language track. Maybe I'll just continue smokin'.



For the record, I did not condone the original decision (thankfully changed due to customer pressure via the Internet) to not even include the original dialogue.

Hey, I got a dubbed copy of Seven Samurai here....

Yeah me too, my favorite line: "Burn him again!"

You're all fired!

El Mariachi has very good subtitles, from what I heard. In fact, Rodruiguez did it himself, so there you go.....

Not you (I got that one, technically that's a hijack not a threadcrap) but the other I'm-so-much-better-than-you-ites that prefer that other people not have the option of listening to dubbed foreign films.

How many of you have missed something important in a film because you were reading dialogue? Especially the first time viewing it? Or would you rather people get really turned off by foreign cinema because they immediately know that there is no option but subtitles?

I'm out.

Nope. Those films, unlike El Mariachi, have no single original language. Like most Italian films of the era, they were shot without sound, and the actors spoke their native language on the set (Eastwood spoke English, extras spoke Spanish, Italian, German, etc.). The films were then, by necessity, entirely dubbed for release in each language.

This is a completely different situation from El Mariachi, which was has a single original soundtrack.

DJ

I'm an avid fan of subtitles, believing (as many of you do) that you should hear the original actor's voices -- it's part of their whole performance after all. That said, I can't believe the attitude expressed in many of the posts that a preference for dubs makes you a cinematic illiterate.

My other half is dyslexic and has real trouble reading the subs before they're gone. So he won't even try -- if it's a foreign movie, he'll only watch it dubbed, and I understand his preference. Others may prefer dubbing because it contributes to the "immersive experience" of a film -- you aren't pulled out of the image to read the subtitles. Finally, as all of us giallo-philes can attest, most of the great giallos and Eurocult titles (think spaghetti westerns) are only available dubbed, because the actors are from so many different nations and cultures. Bava's Hercules in the Haunted World, for example, doesn't even contain Christopher Lee's distinctive organ-pipe voice in any language. And I have yet to see any fanboy (term used advisedly) moaning about how that dubbing ruins the film.

Just because an individual's preference runs counter to your own doesn't mean they're fair game for snotty remarks. And no, I don't see this as equating with a misguided preference for foolscreen, but even those people who still believe that black bars are the work of the devil deserve to be educated, not sneered at.