On the pan-and-scan version? The wings.

People who buy fullscreen DVDs make baby Jesus cry.

"Wings of the Dove" was shot Super-35, so there is a lot more visual information at the bottom of the 4:3 image than there is in the 2.35:1 widescreen image.

Ha- it's funny because I actually had a similar experience with Ghostbusters. When I was kid (10 or so) I remember watching GB on TV, specifically the elevator scene when the guys were in the hotel, and thinking to myself... "why do the Ghostbusters look deformed?" It was a bad P&S butcher job, and I think they actually resized the frame (i.e. smushed it) to fit all the guys in the scene at once.

isn't carrie also a little wider on the sides as well? I noticed in a shot in a classroom with both carrie and the boy she takes to the prom (name strikes me), we see a bit more on both sides then the full screen (this is the tnt version)

EXACTLY, thats why I don't understandthese fullscreen fanatics who prefer the fullscreen versions of WINGS OF THE DOVE (you like your wings clipped) to MISCHIEF (where you are likely to see MORE nudity in the widescreen instead of less).

WS= more picture

FS=pan and scan, cropped. Wake up people!

Full Screen, prince_of_saturn does not always mean pan and scan. Don't come in here and tell people to wake up when you yourself aren't even an authority on the subject. Some of the movies people are referring to are open matte. I'm sure if you did some research you could find tons of information on that and how you actually see more picture in the full screen version. I'm not interested in more or less picture, but a director's intended aspect ratio, as I'm sure most of the widescreen fanatics are.

To Rypro, I think the TV version of Carrie is pan and scan and not open matte.

K

Problem with OAR being a matte presentation is there is some injustice or ethical question rises like when your childhood favorite nude scene is covered by a matte you werent aware of all your life, doesnt that fullscreen LD and VHS of MISCHIEF becomes a sentimental value to it, cosidering I like MISCHIEF for that one scene only (since the rest of the film was lame), then whats the point of owning the DVD when it comes out? A very controversial subject, considering most people only liked MISCHIEF because of that one scene that will be gone if the DVD is presented Matted.

I say, let them eat cake!

I mean, I have absolutely no issue with giving people a choice. But a movie like Mischief would probably be completely barebones, so why not have both widescreen and full screen on the same disc? That way, no choosing which version to get (widescreen for the OAR fan, full screen for the perv ), only which one to watch. However, if it came out in separate widescreen and full screen versions, then one would have to make a choice... and suffer the consequences of a crying baby Jesus.

K

No

Never

Not even once

Never in a million years

Not even if you begged me

I'd sooner use crisp dollar bills to wipe my daughters poopy butt before I spent any money on a DVD that wasn't the OAR. I believe it's one of the Commandments even: "Thou shalt not covet thy studios merchandise with chopped-off movies."

And Ghostbusters is a great example. You lose so much of the movie, it's literally sickning. Seriously, it makes me want to hurl.

There are about five directors working who I actually trust to make that call.

If anyone really thinks that I (or any sentient being) should automatically respect the "artistic vision" of the likes of Adrian Lyne or Ivan Reitman...dream on.

Again, I will state for the record, Mr. Cohn, that I do not like P and S. I have some FS DVDs, but only when that's the only way to get them.

I also like it when attractive actress show off their bodies on film.

I'm funny that way.


Agreed, completely.

I actually tried to look up the OAR for it the other day on the IMDB and it isn't listed.

Go to the DVD Beaver site and look at the side by side comparisons of the R1 and R2 versions of Anatomy of a Murder. That's the kind of thing that irks me.

The only people happy w/ a matted out DVD of Mischief will be those nice people who sell those "Hollywood's Hottest" DVDs and John Travolta.

Yes, the opinion and experience of Buck Turgidson are certainly a more reliable with regard to any given film than those of the film's actual director. Who cares what the filmmakers thought? I trust only Buck Turgidson. I guess that's why we all own so many DVDs with "Buck Turgidson Approved" stickers on the cover.

DJ

I've been trying to get this enacted for a while, now.

FullScreen - This movie has been modified to fit your intelligence.

don't click on the link, geez noone's pointing a gun to your head to come in here.



stupid threadcrappers



on-topic, only when the OAR is 4:3

Fullscreen DVDs pollute the environment, curve your spine, increase anal itching, and put money into Al-Qaeda's hands.

According to the Dogma technical commentary, the Widescreen image is actually a smaller part of the full screen version. That's the only time this has happened that I can think of but I know there are many more movies. As long as I can see as much as I need to see in the picture, it doesn't bother me. I always buy widescreen though.

These threads bring out the "best" of DVDTalk.

Lawrence Of Arabia just BEGS for a nice Full-Screen release!!

That awful widescreen variant has gotta go. Same with that ultra-wide Ben-Hur DVD. Yuck!

I prefer movies in their OAR.

Unless if the OAR is matted, thus covering/hiding/blocking the ONLY ONE THING REDEEMABLE/memorable about a movie like MISCHIEF, and that one scene would have been the only reason to buy this movie, and I like to hear from any fans of mISCHIEF who woulds want that one scene covered just because they want it OAR. (or from fans of POISON IVY 3, EMBRACE OF THE VAMPIRE, WING OF DOVE, SOME GIRLS, SHOWGIRLS, Julie Warner fans of DOC HOLLYWOOD)

Yes, widescreen is better on scope pictures, and about 99.98% of movies but in a hand full of instances(maybe 6), full screen is better on those films ONLY. All else, widescreen is great..

Okay, I'll bite. What is this movie and what is this scene you speak of?

Just scroll back a bit. We discussed it pretty thoroughly.

Full-Screen DVDs: Gateway drugs to heroin.

For anyone that truly doesn't understand the difference, and is scratching their head over these messages saying you're only seeing half the picture (for pan & scan version), check out the following examples.

See the comparison of the Widescreen image vs. the Full Screen image at Widescreen.org.

A lot of people just don't understand what Full Screen does (we've had this discussion countless times at work, and no one had any idea that Full Screen either chopped the movie or added extra). For those that do understand, but would rather deal with that than have the bars, more power to ya. But no complaining when you get your widescreen TV and have to replace all your Full Screen DVDs!

No I don't even if its matted. Most of the time the director has the AR in mind when shooting the film and the unmatted presentations have unnecessary space on the top and bottom, BTTF for example. Some matted movies also have mistakes that are not present in the matted versions such as a scene in Dogma when Matt Damon accidently slices off the head of a voodoo doll. I perfer intended aspect ratio.