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Old 08-29-00, 08:04 PM
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Ok, Mine isn't here yet and some of you have it already. So how is it?
Old 08-30-00, 01:42 AM
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I just got it & watched it today (extended director's cut). The picture quality was great on my 65" HDTV w/ progressive-scan player. I didn't remember the lasers in the beginning war being SO bright! The calrity & color were really great, but the DTS sound was even better. Not just in the action scenes either. The POV shots of the Terminators scanning stuff sounded great. You could hear mechanical whirring & clicks from all sides. Great picture & even better sound. I haven't even checked out any of the extras yet. Just the movie alone is worth the price.
Old 08-30-00, 03:24 AM
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This set lives up to the hype. Incredible picure and sound quality. I am still working through all the special features. T2 is a great DVD.
Old 08-30-00, 04:43 AM
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i love the dvd... but one thing is still getting to me. the whole dvd-18 factor. i would have loved this the same, or more so, if it was two disc. i just hate flipping it. the meer thought of the brand of case it came in (you have to pull the dvd out harshly to get it out) i am afriad of scratching one side of it. the metal case is cool.. but unless the booklet is stuck on the outside. it slids off fairly easy. :P
well other then that.. great dvd.
Old 08-30-00, 07:30 AM
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Tell me Jack, what takes more effort to flip a DVD-18 disc or changing a DVD-9 discs?
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I got mine in the mail today, and it has the 2 x DVD-9 as opposed to the 1 x DVD-18. I'm stoked because I have a Toshiba SD-3109 and it's a dual disc player. Pop em both in and I'm set!
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Vaz, it takes the least effort if your like rodyork or me (SD-5109) and have a 2-disc player. I watched Magnolia today & just had to hit a button to switch to the second disc.
Old 08-31-00, 02:17 AM
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Vaz, i have a 5 disc changer... so what takes more time? pressing the "disc change" button, or getting up and flipping the disc over?
sure i might be lazy, but i just don't want to ruin my movie moment by having to open the player, flipping it, and waiting for the load. i would really rather have the extra features on the same side as the movie. they should have done the specail edition on just one disc with the features.
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Point taken.

DVD-9 version have cool artwork on them. I am hoping that I get 2 disc version next week!
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I'm working on my review for DVDTalk - but here's an advance look at it - all I have so far is a review of the supplementals:

Disc Two - Special Features:

The Menus: Right from the opening, you can tell this disc is going to be awesome. The first menu is presented to you after a fly-by starting with a Cyberdyne logo and then the fly-by features some of the visuals from T2. The first menu you are presented with has 3 options (wait a while to see the T-1000 come out of the menu):

Information Programs - contains 3 different options:

The Making of Terminator 2: Judgement Day - 30 minute documentary on the making of the feature film. It opens with a scene from the movie with a voice-over introducing us to a new kind of villain. The documentary then goes on to feature some behind-the-scenes footage along with an interview with Arnold talking about his favorite line from the series, "I'll be back." Also interviewed are director James Cameron, Linda Hamilton, makeup designer Stan Winston, Edward Furlong, Robert Patrick, ILM technician Dennis Muren, and ILM computer effects technician Steve Williams. There's surprisingly a lot of behind the scenes footage which is a great bonus for this movie. With movies nowadays being filmed with a DVD production already in progress behind the scenes, it's great to see all of the backstage footage from 10 years ago. Also included are some storyboards mapping out the awesome vehicular stunts and how these stunts were performed and filmed. Also covered is the make-up preparation and application. The look at the making of the futuristic war is especially interesting as it shows how they utilized different models and animatronics to simulate the wars, the nuclear holocaust, and the indestructable nature of the terminator. Also profiled are the effects used to create the T-1000 and it's morphing nature through ILM and other effects studios. They talk about computer generated effects as they were very new at the time 10 years ago and it's interesting to see how rudimentary effects were 10 years ago. At the end of the documentary, they call T2 - the conclusion of the Terminator saga - interesting now that T3 is in the works.

T2: More than Meets the Eye - 22 minute special discussion, omitted scenes, and the special edition. This Showtime presentation features different parts of the interviews included in the 30 minute documentary along with some new interviews with Edward Furlong, Robert Patrick, James Cameron, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Michael Biehn, Joe Morton, and Stan Winston. The discussion features the cast and crew talking about omitted scenes that were taken out because of the length of the movie. The first omitted scene features the T-1000 searching John Connor's room which was omitted because the point was made later in the movie. The second scene omitted is Sarah's first dream sequence which was put in to make a direct link to the first film and closes up some questions left open. The scene was left out because they thought that it would make Sarah seem weaker as if she needed motivation to become the strong-willed person she becomes. Another deleted scene features Sarah removing bullets from the Terminator as he interacts with John Connor. The scene was changed to remove a scene in which the Terminator has his CPU removed which showed how easily the Terminator could be reduced to a pile of metal and plastic - it also shows John as he takes a leadership position and the leader that he will become (hint: T3). The scene was removed because his personality change could be represented easier and in less time. Because of this scene removal, later scenes had to be altered and these are shown next. The final cut scene is the original ending - commentated by James Cameron, we see that the future is changeable. This was left out because it would cause a duality which Cameron thought would be best left out with just the eternal battle of good vs. evil left in.

The Making of Terminator 2 3D: Breaking the Screen Barrier - 23 minute featurette on the creation of the MCA/Universal Studios 3D theme park attraction. Once again, it seems as if this is a made-for-TV special (hence the 23 minutes - 7 for commercials) with interviews with Arnold Schwarzenegger, James Cameron, Stan Winston, and others from different effects studios. They discuss the making of the 3D attraction along with the basics of the Terminator movies. Included in the featurette are sketchings of the theater created just for T2:3D and a discussion of the story created to bridge between T2 and T3. They also show behind-the-scenes footage dealing with the creation of the 3D special effects and everything else required to make the 3D movie go along without a hitch.

Visual Campaigns - Teasers and Trailers - consists of 9 different options:

Teaser Trailer - Building the perfect Arnold. The teaser isn't in perfect condition after almost 10 years, but it's pretty cool to look back and see the teaser being shown in theaters and think how awesome the special effects were back then. "Building the perfect Arnold" features the creation and molding of the Terminator for this particular teaser.

Theatrical Trailer - This time there and two. The second teaser features a more in depth trailer with the basic story-line revealed. Here we see for the first time the T-1000, the opposition to the Terminator - "One programmed to destroy, the other programmed to protect."

Theatrical Trailer - Same make, new mission. Somewhat similar to the first theatrical trailer, this one primarily focuses on the Terminator (same make) and John Connor who needs to be saved from the T-1000 (new mission). "Once he was programmed to destroy the future, now his mission is to protect it."

T2 Special Edition Trailer - More than meets the eye. This trailer basically focuses on the scenes cut from the original edition of T2 that are now included in T2. It features the deleted scenes that can be seen in the 22 minute special discussion included in the previous specials menu.

Japanese Teasers A & B, Japanese Trailers A, B, and C: Basically the same as the U.S. teasers and trailers, these are subtitled in Japanese with a Japanese narrator - except for the ever-recognizeable: "I'll be back."

Data Hub - Disc Supplement - consists of a sub menu featuring 4 more options:

Source Code - Script. Containing 574 still frames, the whole shooting script is included on the disc. It can be read by utilizing the left and right arrow keys. The background is that of a burning playground which makes the text (white) a little hard to read at times. The background changes ever-so-slightly from frame to frame, but it's hard to tell if it ever changes to a new scene.

Tactical Diagrams. This feature contains 17 storyboard sequences, each one containing quite a few storyboards (over 700 in total). There's no commentary or any audio for this part, but the storyboards are all quite interesting themself.

Data Core - consists of a sub-menu featuring 2 options:

Full Implementation - Run Complete Supplement. This takes you to a screen that says, "Terminator 2 Special Edition Supplement - Press Play." Upon pressing play, it takes you to a short montage of behind the scenes footage that then leads into a menu where if you press the wrong button, it takes you back to the Data Core sub-menu. By pressing the right arrow, there is an on screen Introduction with text. Further use of the right arrow brings you through the introduction onto a few pages discussing T2. I then tried to go further into the Supplement, but instead, I was greeted with a quick once-through of the 50 chapters included on the disc. Maybe I should have took heed of the warning that the navigational features of the disc will not work properly on some DVD players (although to this point I had had no problems). I'm assuming that the "Run Complete Supplement" option when working properly will go through the 3 featurettes along with the 60 different video segments included below.

Core Data Sampling - Browse Chapters. It's nice to see a chapter listing for the supplemental disc. Consisting of 50 chapters, it's easy to get to any one part of the supplements without having to navigate through menus on top of menus on top of sub-menus. If I wanted to go straight to the Storyboards, I know that's chapter 7 and the Process Photography is chapter 30.

Interrogation Surveillance Archives - Video Segments - consists of a sub-menu featuring 60 options: Each of these options breaks off into a short segment discussing a different aspect of the film - from writing the script, to pre-production, to the special effects. I'm not going to go in depth for all 60 of them, but here's the first 5:

Writer/director James Cameron and co-writer Bill Wisher discuss working together on the script. This short interview (about 1 minute, 10 seconds) talks about the the collaboration between the two on the beginning of the script for T2.

Writer/director James Cameron and co-writer Bill Wisher discuss the writing process. The two talk about setting up the characters and the necessary preparation before the actual writing process. At about 1 minute, 40 seconds, the interview talks about the pressure on the script writing process because pretty much the whole project hinges on the script.

Writer/director James Cameron discusses researching for the film. From an interview earlier than the previous 2, this one talks about his research of the nuclear mega-ton blast along with the technical research included for the jail scenes. This short weighs in at 1 minute, 12 seconds (approx.).

James Cameron and designer Steve Burg discuss the design challenges of the film. James discusses the lack of money in T1 and the subsequent funding of T2 which enabled him to come up with devices that were created for this film. This excerpt is 1 minute and 18 seconds long.

Effects designer John Orund discusses the previsualization process. This clip is only 30 seconds long as John discusses the storyboard process and how to digitize the storyboards to come up with the best way to film a certain scene.

DVD-ROM capability. Allows viewing of the film while simultaneously reading the script and looking at storyboards. Also links to online websites.
Old 08-31-00, 08:35 AM
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Here's my review for Disc One - everything is included except for critiquing (sp?) video and audio quality - both of which are top-notch and the audio commentary - which I am really looking forward to. Comments are welcome.

Disc One - Main Feature:

The Menus: We start with a logo for the Cyberdyne corporation which then changes into the T-1000 factory, spits out a T-1000 and presents us with a menu with 2 options:

Theatrical Version: Upon selecting the theatrical version, we are presented with a menu that has 4 options:

Go to Special Edition: Self-explanitory. Once at the Special Edition screen, it's exactly the same as the theatrical version. The only difference is that through this menu you can access the easter egg described below.

Sensory Control: Presents you with the 4 different audio options and 2 subtitle options:

Dolby Digial 5.1 Surround EX: The EX is an all new Dolby Surround option that features an additional rear center speaker to further enhance your listening pleasure. Unfortunately, I don't have a Dolby 5.1 EX capable receiver (yet) so I couldn't test the effectiveness of this new audio option.

DTS 5.1 ES: The DTS 5.1 ES is available to all of you who have a nice DTS receiver. I'm saving up right now to get one, so I can't compare the DTS to the Dolby, but I'm sure it's quite nice.

Dolby Surround 2.0: The standard Dolby Surround 2.0 for those unfortunate souls without a surround system. The Dolby 2.0 utilizes just a regular TV's left and right speakers to try and imitate full 5.1 surround. The sound is not bad, but it's just not the same as surround.

Audio Commentary: I haven't listened to it yet - look for a review of this feature tomorrow or in my full review to be posted shortly at the DVDTalk review section or at my website - should be up at: http://www.movielocity.com/d/r.cgi?Title=Terminator+2

No Subtitiles: Self-explanitory.

English Subtitles: Also self-explanitory.

Also, if you look closely on this screen, next to the option to return to the main menu, there's a little THX logo which lets you enter a "THX Optimode" which enables you to set up your audio and video system for superior viewing experience. Here you can select one of 2 options:

Audio Tests: The audio test is to be used as a verification that the speaker placement and levels are correct for proper surround environment. The audio test tests each of the channels (speakers) so that you can adjust your surround system to optimal levels.

Video Tests: The video tests allow you to adjust your contrast/picture controls on your television so that you can have a superior viewing experience. Also included is a brightness test and a tint & color set-up courtesy the color bars. You can also check your monitor performance (TV) for convergence errors and if you don't know if you want to use a 4:3 ratio or 16:9 ratio, they test that also. The final test is a scene specifically selected from the film that represents the general color balance of the film. After viewing you can then re-adjust your settings.

Mission Profiles: The mission profiles are basically the standard cast and crew information. Each one contains a (pretty long) biography of the cast or crew member along with an extensive filmography. Also available from this menu is the DVD-ROM menu. The DVD-ROM introduction is pretty funny as it calls the internet (as we call it) Skynet's mainframe database. It's only for PC users, so Mac users are "probably out of luck, but don't worry; it's precisely because you weren't on Skynet's system that most of you survived Judgement Day and helped me build the resistance."

Jump Into Timeline: Jump into timeline lets you access a certain scene individually. There are all told 80 scene selections for the special edition version and 72 for the theatrical version - the animation between these two menus is especially cool.

Easter Egg: Select "Go to Special Edition." Make sure "Play Special Edition" is highlighted (red). On your remote, punch in (not to fast): 82997. As you type, the words, "The Future is Not Set" appear on the right hand side - where the symbols were. Select it and then play the Extended Special Edition. You can also access this feature by switching to Title 3 on the Main Feature disc.
Old 08-31-00, 03:38 PM
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WTF is UPS's problem?

I still haven't got mine and it shipped on monday!!

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