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Old 11-16-00 | 03:41 PM
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I'm running plain old out of the box RCA cable to hook up my sub. Should I buy a better interconnect?
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Since only an audio signal is sent from the LFE out of your receiver, it is not that necessary to get a Monster Cable to connect your sub. However, it is a good idea to hook up both the left and right RCA input on your sub. If your receiver doesn't have dual LFE sub outs, you might want to buy a Y-cable that splits the line into two. Then you can use a set of RCA audio cables to hook up your sub.

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Old 11-16-00 | 04:18 PM
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Of course Monster Cable is the best. I bet you are running monster on everything else, right? Dont leave the sub out of the gratness.Lay that monster on now!!!!

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Old 11-16-00 | 04:27 PM
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Damn Monster cables are expensive!

Screw the sub...I hear the bass just fine with Nintendo's audio cable.

Old 11-16-00 | 04:39 PM
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Everyone is always looking to cut corners. Use Monster it makes a difference.
Old 11-16-00 | 04:40 PM
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quote:<HR>Everyone is always looking to cut corners. <HR>


I agree. I am one of them...LOL!

I will probably upgrade to Gold RCA audio cable.

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quote:<HR>Originally posted by AUDIO FREAK:
However, it is a good idea to hook up both the left and right RCA input on your sub. If your receiver doesn't have dual LFE sub outs, you might want to buy a Y-cable that splits the line into two. Then you can use a set of RCA audio cables to hook up your sub.
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And why exactly would this be such a good idea? All it would do is waste his money. There is no benefit to this solution. It would not only cost extra money to buy the y-adapter, but also a set of dual RCA cables.

The reason that Audio Freaks idea is a waste of money is simple. The LFE signal being sent from your reciever to your sub is a mono signal and only requires the one RCA cable. Most sub's manuals will state which channel to plug the RCA cable into (right or left) but it really shouldn't make any difference which one you use. The bottom line is to save your money and stick with the rca cable you are using now.
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quote:<HR>Originally posted by DVD Slut:
Everyone is always looking to cut corners. Use Monster it makes a difference.<HR>


Could you provide some facts to back up that statement or is it just your OPINION?

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I've got a Monster Cable running to my sub, which cost about $35. It even comes with a two-way so you can hook it up to both channels. I think it was worth the expense, but I'm also one that can't pick apart sounds like some people can in this forum.

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Old 11-17-00 | 02:53 AM
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Dont be so angry zen-doggie, its just my OPINION.
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quote:<HR>Originally posted by DVD Slut:
Dont be so angry zen-doggie, its just my OPINION.<HR>


I am not angry at all so I am sorry you took it that way. You just seem so sure so I thought maybe you had some facts to back up that statement with.
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No harm taken. I really think the only living things that can hear sound dlfferences are my two dogs. Thay have a keen sense of hearing.

FREEDOM!!!!!
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quote:<HR>Originally posted by ZenDog:
And why exactly would this be such a good idea? All it would do is waste his money. There is no benefit to this solution. It would not only cost extra money to buy the y-adapter, but also a set of dual RCA cables.

The reason that Audio Freaks idea is a waste of money is simple. The LFE signal being sent from your reciever to your sub is a mono signal and only requires the one RCA cable. Most sub's manuals will state which channel to plug the RCA cable into (right or left) but it really shouldn't make any difference which one you use. The bottom line is to save your money and stick with the rca cable you are using now.
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This is a good idea because if you send the signal through only on of the inputs, the sub bass is not coming through at its full potential. Most powered subs take each input, amplify it, then send it to the driver. If you split the signal and send it to both inputs, you get a better sound. I have tried it both ways with both my Velodyne subs and I much rather prefer using a Y-connector from the receiver to the sub. You were right by saying that it is a mono signal coming out of the LFE output, but how much more expensive would it be to buy a gold plated Y-connector? If that is a problem, maybe you should give up on HT and go back to 8 track, Zen Dog!!
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I do have a monster Y cable hooked up to standard fair RCAs-my question was do I need to upgrade the RCAs. Thanks for the input.
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quote:<HR>Originally posted by AUDIO FREAK:
This is a good idea because if you send the signal through only on of the inputs, the sub bass is not coming through at its full potential. Most powered subs take each input, amplify it, then send it to the driver. If you split the signal and send it to both inputs, you get a better sound. I have tried it both ways with both my Velodyne subs and I much rather prefer using a Y-connector from the receiver to the sub. You were right by saying that it is a mono signal coming out of the LFE output, but how much more expensive would it be to buy a gold plated Y-connector? If that is a problem, maybe you should give up on HT and go back to 8 track, Zen Dog!!<HR>


I am not trying to start an arguement here, but your reply doesn't make any sense. The only way that using a y-adapter would make any difference is if the left input and the right input on the sub each had their own amp. You are not getting anymore amplification by simply splitting the signal from the reciver in two. By using a y-adapter you are splitting the signal strength from the reciever in half and then amplifying each one individually. You would get the same results if you didn't split the signal.
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This board is full of Freaks,Dogs, and Sluts.
I agree w/ the Audio Freak, why not go all the way w/ your cable Longshanks and just get a monster cable. I bet you got Highlander DVD in your collection and think its a reference disc to show all your buddies. I hope I am wrong though. I just hope you get the best set-up, Dont sell yourself short.
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quote:<HR>Originally posted by ZenDog:
I am not trying to start an arguement here, but your reply doesn't make any sense. The only way that using a y-adapter would make any difference is if the left input and the right input on the sub each had their own amp. You are not getting anymore amplification by simply splitting the signal from the reciver in two. By using a y-adapter you are splitting the signal strength from the reciever in half and then amplifying each one individually. You would get the same results if you didn't split the signal.<HR>


Your comments are well taken. However, I have tested this way and it has worked very well. Before I even purchased any sub, I had this test done as well. If manufacturers intended people to use only one input, why would there be two? And by the way, Infinity and Velodyne both recommend using both inputs on their subs. Y-connectors are not that expensive. The original topic of this post was "does monster RCAs for a sub make a difference?" not do Y-connectors make a difference. I merely said that using a Y-connector works well and furthermore that you do not have to necessarily use MONSTER. But like many others in this forum, you are trying to state your superiority and vast knowledge on everything. Next time, you should be more positive, learn how to spell a little better, and not bash every person that is trying to give their OPINION, rather than give in to your Narcissistic superiority complex.
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Longshanks, I think Audio Freak and Zendog should meet somewhere between IL. and NJ. and have a whipping contest. Audio Freak w/ his thick old Monster Cable and Zendog with his Radio Crap dry cleaner hanger wire. Maybe we can link it to a payper view website.
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quote:<HR>Originally posted by AUDIO FREAK:
Your comments are well taken. However, I have tested this way and it has worked very well. Before I even purchased any sub, I had this test done as well. If manufacturers intended people to use only one input, why would there be two? And by the way, Infinity and Velodyne both recommend using both inputs on their subs. Y-connectors are not that expensive. The original topic of this post was "does monster RCAs for a sub make a difference?" not do Y-connectors make a difference. I merely said that using a Y-connector works well and furthermore that you do not have to necessarily use MONSTER. But like many others in this forum, you are trying to state your superiority and vast knowledge on everything. Next time, you should be more positive, learn how to spell a little better, and not bash every person that is trying to give their OPINION, rather than give in to your Narcissistic superiority complex. <HR>


Let me first start by saying I really don't appreciate your personal attack on me. While I do realize we have gotten slightly off topic from the origianl post there is no reason for you to be so touchy. I specifically said I did not want to start an arguement, but you took it upon yourself to go there. With all that said, let me try to explain this for one last time.

I am really happy for you that you hear a difference when using a y-adapter but the cold hard fact is that there is no difference no matter how many tests you have run. The reason that there are left and right inputs on subs is because some people do not have discrete setups. On these non dolby digital recievers there is not a sub out so it is neccesary to connect the sub with both a left and right output from the reciever. The amp in the sub then sums the left and right signal into a mono signal.

You did not say that a y-adapter worked well for you. You told Mr. Longshanks that "it is a good idea to hook up both the left and right RCA input on your sub." I try to look out for other members of DVDTalk and did not want Mr. Longshanks to run out and spend his money only to return home and hear no difference from his sub. It is a FACT that it won't make a difference.

I never disagreed with you about not needing to use Monster. I agree that Monster cable will most likely not make any difference in Mr. Longshanks setup which is why I don't use it in mine. That was never an issue. I never claimed that I had a superior knowledge about anything. The whole point of this forum is to inform other members about HT which was exactly what I was doing. You should take your own advice and be more positive especially since I never bashed anyone. I always try to respect other's opinions but your opinion on y-adapters does not apply in this case. It is an open and shut case. FACT: THERE IS NO REASON TO USE A Y-ADAPTER UNLESS YOU DO NOT HAVE A DISCRETE SETUP. Until you can prove me wrong with some actual facts then simply drop it. Maybe in time you will learn to appreciate someone who is simply trying to inform other DVDTalk members with facts rather then opinion.

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