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Distortion on left channel...
I have my own home-made home theater arrangement (53" WS HDTV Projection Monitor, Nikko NR-1000 65W/channel 2-channel stereo receiver [mfg'd 1981], 2-40" Sony tower speakers spread wide [to work with the speakers in the TV], a Sony DVD/VCR combo, along with my turntable & cassette deck), sounds pretty good for our needs. But lately we've been getting some distortion on the left channel while watching some DVDs. Swapped the speakers, distortion is still on the left channel, which would seem to indicate it's not a problem with the speakers. Throw an album on the turntable, sounds great both channels, turn on the TV, regular broadcasts sound good, although we don't usually watch regular TV through the receiver. Start watching a DVD with the volume cranked, distortion on the left channel on the loud bassy booming sounds.
I had the receiver worked on a couple of years ago, it had been in storage for several years, the 10 second system check (for lack of the correct terminology) apparently decided there was something wrong with the circuitry and wouldn't allow the amp to kick in. They fixed it up just fine and it worked very well for awhile. About a year ago we started getting distortion in the left channel, but I don't remember if it was while listening to music or watching DVDs, my memory isn't what it used to be. At any rate the distortion just stopped (for some reason) and we were getting crystal clear sound again until just a couple of months ago. Now, it only distorts on certain tones (deep bassy loud), and it seems to be confined to just DVDs (although I've only preliminarily tested this theory with regular TV and albums). I'm using some pretty heavy duty Monster AV cables to connect the TV to DVD/VCR to receiver, and some pretty heavy guage speaker wires (I've ruled out speakers/wires as the culprit, albums/TV sound fine). I've tried reseating the AV cables, I don't know what else to do. I thought about upgrading the receiver to an Onkyo TX-8555 (don't have any use for 5.1 or 7.1 channel), but that's (currently) $230 (on sale) I'd rather not spend on a component that may not be the root of the problem. Maybe it's the DVD/VCR wigging out, I don't know. All I know is it's driving me buggy, and in the process driving my wife buggy while I try to figure it out. I don't have a whole lot of $$$ to throw around needlessly. I'd say it has to be either the receiver not being able to cope with the range of audio in DVDs (in which case why is the distortion only on the left channel), or maybe the audio capabilities of the DVD/VCR are on their way out, I wish I knew. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, -kd5- |
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Do you have a subwoofer?
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No, just the 2 towers along with the speakers in the TV. -kd5-
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Try swapping inputs if possible, like between the cassette and DVDp. That may tell you if it is just the one input on the receiver, or indicate if it is the DVD player. You could also try another DVD player, from a friend or something.
Find a scene in a movie that presents the problem, and always use that same spot for the testing. It may very well be that the receiver has lost ability to cope with the range, but I'm sure it had it originally. For the brands that offer receivers under $300, I would probably start with Harmon Kardon. They're ugly, but they tend to have really nice amps for the price. |
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Since your receiver is only 65 watts per channel, you may not be able to listen to it at a high volume, without getting distortion, especially with movie soundtracks. You've stated that your receiver is 28 years old, which indicates its not Dolby Digital, nor DTS 5.1 compatible. 5.1 movie soundtracks are quite powerful, and your receiver is unable to handle full range multi-channel soundtracks. I recommend you to buy an inexpensive receiver within your budget.
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Originally Posted by Spiky
(Post 10671298)
Try swapping inputs if possible, like between the cassette and DVDp. That may tell you if it is just the one input on the receiver, or indicate if it is the DVD player. You could also try another DVD player, from a friend or something.
Find a scene in a movie that presents the problem, and always use that same spot for the testing. It may very well be that the receiver has lost ability to cope with the range, but I'm sure it had it originally. For the brands that offer receivers under $300, I would probably start with Harmon Kardon. They're ugly, but they tend to have really nice amps for the price.
Originally Posted by slimdude
(Post 10671467)
Since your receiver is only 65 watts per channel, you may not be able to listen to it at a high volume, without getting distortion, especially with movie soundtracks. You've stated that your receiver is 28 years old, which indicates its not Dolby Digital, nor DTS 5.1 compatible. 5.1 movie soundtracks are quite powerful, and your receiver is unable to handle full range multi-channel soundtracks. I recommend you to buy an inexpensive receiver within your budget.
I was hoping this could be a simple fix but it looks like I'm going to have to shell out the big bucks after all. If anyone else has any ideas, I sure would appreciate them. Thanks everyone who's offered help, -kd5- |
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You can use the Tape input, the output connection doesn't matter. Don't use the phono, because I'm guessing that is tuned differently for a turntable's needs.
This is why you should always keep at least one techy friend around. ;) Ooh, that reminds me, I'm supposed to dig up a CAT5 cable for my cousin. |
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Sounds like a bad input to me. Like Spiky said you can use the input for tape to plug the DVD player into. Either way, dont you think it's time to upgrade your receiver? I've never heard of the Nikko brand before. Is it some kind of top of the line equipment that youve been using for almost 30 years?
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Originally Posted by Spiky
(Post 10671629)
You can use the Tape input, the output connection doesn't matter. Don't use the phono, because I'm guessing that is tuned differently for a turntable's needs.
This is why you should always keep at least one techy friend around. ;) Ooh, that reminds me, I'm supposed to dig up a CAT5 cable for my cousin. Thanks for your techy help...:) -kd5- |
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Originally Posted by JZ1276
(Post 10671705)
Sounds like a bad input to me. Like Spiky said you can use the input for tape to plug the DVD player into. Either way, dont you think it's time to upgrade your receiver? I've never heard of the Nikko brand before. Is it some kind of top of the line equipment that youve been using for almost 30 years?
At any rate, I'm leaning towards a new receiver: http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it.../onkyo-tx-8555 That is, if you guys are convinced it's the receiver that's at the root of the problem..... Thanks everyone, -kd5- |
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Originally Posted by kd5
(Post 10671919)
At one time Nikko was a well respected name for quality audio components, now nobody has even heard of them...:sad:
At any rate, I'm leaning towards a new receiver: http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it.../onkyo-tx-8555 That is, if you guys are convinced it's the receiver that's at the root of the problem..... Thanks everyone, -kd5- |
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Swapped right/left DVD inputs on the receiver, distortion still comes from the left channel. Also, my wife remembers hearing the distortion (the last time we were flipping through channels on the TV testing this) on Family Guy. Since the DVD player is off while we're watching TV, I would venture to guess that if it's anything, it's the receiver (at least I've pretty much convinced myself it is, maybe I'm wrong...). -kd5-
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Considering the age of the receiver, and you've already had it repaired once before, it wouldn't be worth the cost to have it repaired again because, you'll be paying more to have it fix, then what the receiver is worth. It lasted for 30 years, so you've got your money's worth out of it, and more. You are long overdue for an upgrade!:) When you purchase your new receiver, and listen to it, you are going to asked yourself: Why did I take so long?
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You're probably right. It's just that older electronics typically beat the snot out of newer stuff as far as quality/longevity is concerned, this receiver has been good to me for a very long time, I kind of hate to kick it to the curb. It plays my albums beautifully, it just doesn't do so well with DVDs.
Dammit. Oh well, I guess if I have to, I have to. -kd5- |
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Is it also used as your radio tuner? If so, I'd keep it as it probably has better frequency signal-to-noise than a newer one.
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Or just shop C Crane for a tuner.
How much do you want to spend? There are quality components still made. One high-quality stereo receiver I know of is $700. |
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The Onkyo receiver I linked to above is on sale for $230 (from $350) which is really more than I want to spend right now, but since I refuse to buy junk, it's what I'll probably end up getting. It's one of the few receivers that still have a phono jack, it's 2-channel which is all I need, it's 100W/channel which should handle DVD audio adequately (amongst the other features listed in the link), and it gets good reviews from everyone who's purchased it.
JRComputerWorld: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC_gi2M3ixw $700 is WAY out of my price range, but I appreciate the thought...:) -kd5- |
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DVDs really aren't that special for audio. Not even bluray is. I think your only problem is damage from age, perhaps in certain frequencies. That Onkyo should be just fine.
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Ordered the Onkyo this morning, should have it Monday. Can't wait...:p -kd5-
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Originally Posted by Spiky
(Post 10674064)
DVDs really aren't that special for audio.
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Originally Posted by kd5
(Post 10674492)
I gotta tell ya, if it wasn't for the distortion I was getting on the left channel, this Nikko kicked ASS with delivering room rumbling yet clean sounding audio with DVDs on my setup. I can only hope the Onkyo does as well. -kd5-
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The Onkyo arrived today (Vann's is QUICK!), got everything connected, cranked it up with a DVD, sounds good, no more crackle in the left channel, good bass response, maybe it's just me but it doesn't sound quite as clean as the Nikko did but it could just be my imagination. I'm an audiophile too, have 470 (or so) LPs, been collecting them since the 70's, take good care of them. Haven't listened to one on the new receiver yet but I will in good time. It's good to have finally upgraded, I have yet to play around with all the new features but I will. -kd5-
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Despite what the box says about watts, it is entirely possible that the Onkyo has less power than your old receiver. If you want the depth back, save up for this: http://emotiva.com/upa2.shtm
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$389...-eek-
I might have to hold off on that...:p With my Nikko, I could only ever plug my turntable, cassette deck, and audio cables from the TV into the receiver, didn't really have a need to do it any other way. Now I have the ability to run RGB and/or A/V cables between the receiver and DVD/VCR (currently they're running between the DVD/VCR and TV) and I'm wondering if it would even be worth it to re-route everything through the receiver. Would there be any advantage at all to run the DVD player through the receiver as opposed to the current arrangement? Edit: Just swapped the R/L audio cable I had running between the TV and receiver for an A/V cable (my only spare), I have no idea what (if any) advantage I just gained (or not) by doing that. I think if I tried to run the RGB or A/V cables from the TV through the receiver first then out to all components I'd have to spring for more cables although I won't swear to it. For now I think I'm going to leave it as it is now...:hscratch: -kd5- |
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Originally Posted by kd5
(Post 10676255)
The Onkyo arrived today (Vann's is QUICK!), got everything connected, cranked it up with a DVD, sounds good, no more crackle in the left channel, good bass response, maybe it's just me but it doesn't sound quite as clean as the Nikko did but it could just be my imagination. I have yet to play around with all the new features but I will. -kd5-
Originally Posted by kd5
(Post 10676580)
I'm wondering if it would even be worth it to re-route everything through the receiver. Would there be any advantage at all to run the DVD player through the receiver as opposed to the current arrangement? |
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