Speaker wire...can you help??
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Speaker wire...can you help??
I have an Aiwa Dolby Digital 5.1 Mini System, and I had a question about speaker wire. The system came with already attached to the individual speakers, but there is no way of actually opening the speaker boxes to change the wire out. My question is this. Does the quality of speaker wire make a huge difference?? The wire that came with the system is REALLY thin...like spaghetti thin.
Do you guys have any input on this subject??
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Jesse C.
Do you guys have any input on this subject??
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Jesse C.
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How to say this......No with an Awia system speaker wire is going to make no difference in sound quality. Plus the amount you would spend on speaker wire would be better spent on upgrades in the future.
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changing to better (and larger) wire would help somewhat IMO
Nothing against AIWA, but from everything I've read their systems don't sound all that great
Nothing against AIWA, but from everything I've read their systems don't sound all that great
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Well, I bought it over 2 yrs ago. I'm happy with it for now. I live in a small apartment, so it's ok. So, you honestly suggest just saving up a few benjamins and buying a component sound system??
What home theater in a box set up would you guys suggest?? Now remember, I'm not exactly crappin money, but I can save a bit to get something decent The Aiwa system I have doesnt support DTS, only Dolby 5.1 and I keep hearing about how great DTS is, so that give me some incentive to buy another system too.
Any suggestions??
Thanks for the feedback guys
Jesse
What home theater in a box set up would you guys suggest?? Now remember, I'm not exactly crappin money, but I can save a bit to get something decent The Aiwa system I have doesnt support DTS, only Dolby 5.1 and I keep hearing about how great DTS is, so that give me some incentive to buy another system too.
Any suggestions??
Thanks for the feedback guys
Jesse
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A number of the home theater in a box systems look nice. Personally I would rather assemble my own system. As far as DTS goes I have not been able to tell a dramatic difference between it and DD.
Good luck!
Good luck!
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Originally posted by jessecrx
Well, I bought it over 2 yrs ago. I'm happy with it for now. I live in a small apartment, so it's ok. So, you honestly suggest just saving up a few benjamins and buying a component sound system??
What home theater in a box set up would you guys suggest?? Now remember, I'm not exactly crappin money, but I can save a bit to get something decent The Aiwa system I have doesnt support DTS, only Dolby 5.1 and I keep hearing about how great DTS is, so that give me some incentive to buy another system too.
Any suggestions??
Thanks for the feedback guys
Jesse
Well, I bought it over 2 yrs ago. I'm happy with it for now. I live in a small apartment, so it's ok. So, you honestly suggest just saving up a few benjamins and buying a component sound system??
What home theater in a box set up would you guys suggest?? Now remember, I'm not exactly crappin money, but I can save a bit to get something decent The Aiwa system I have doesnt support DTS, only Dolby 5.1 and I keep hearing about how great DTS is, so that give me some incentive to buy another system too.
Any suggestions??
Thanks for the feedback guys
Jesse
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Replace your system a little at a time with some nice components and a nice speaker setup. HT in a box is cute IMHO but I like big meaty gear for my HT.
As for your speaker wire, won't matter if you replace it with gold. Again, just MHO...
Brian Shannon: Do you own the New Line Platinum of Se7en? If so, cue up the library scene with Morgan Freeman and give it a bounce between DTS and DD... The DTS track is obviously superior in every aspect and is the scene I use to demo the differences between DTS and DD for friends.
As for your speaker wire, won't matter if you replace it with gold. Again, just MHO...
Brian Shannon: Do you own the New Line Platinum of Se7en? If so, cue up the library scene with Morgan Freeman and give it a bounce between DTS and DD... The DTS track is obviously superior in every aspect and is the scene I use to demo the differences between DTS and DD for friends.
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Originally posted by Johnny Zhivago
Brian Shannon: Do you own the New Line Platinum of Se7en? If so, cue up the library scene with Morgan Freeman and give it a bounce between DTS and DD... The DTS track is obviously superior in every aspect and is the scene I use to demo the differences between DTS and DD for friends.
Brian Shannon: Do you own the New Line Platinum of Se7en? If so, cue up the library scene with Morgan Freeman and give it a bounce between DTS and DD... The DTS track is obviously superior in every aspect and is the scene I use to demo the differences between DTS and DD for friends.
Just because the DTS track kicks the DD track's butt on one dvd (or even on every dvd in the world) does not mean that DTS is superior to DD. It means the following: you should listen to the DTS track on that dvd (and any dvd where the DTS track is better -- and available).
DTS and DD soundtracks are mastered separately, probably using different equipment, probably not level matching one another, probably not by the same people with the same technical ability (or vision). It is not simply a question of taking the same source material and encoding it with two different compression techniques.
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Originally posted by stevevt
Just because the DTS track kicks the DD track's butt on one dvd (or even on every dvd in the world) does not mean that DTS is superior to DD. It means the following: you should listen to the DTS track on that dvd (and any dvd where the DTS track is better -- and available).
DTS and DD soundtracks are mastered separately, probably using different equipment, probably not level matching one another, probably not by the same people with the same technical ability (or vision). It is not simply a question of taking the same source material and encoding it with two different compression techniques.
Just because the DTS track kicks the DD track's butt on one dvd (or even on every dvd in the world) does not mean that DTS is superior to DD. It means the following: you should listen to the DTS track on that dvd (and any dvd where the DTS track is better -- and available).
DTS and DD soundtracks are mastered separately, probably using different equipment, probably not level matching one another, probably not by the same people with the same technical ability (or vision). It is not simply a question of taking the same source material and encoding it with two different compression techniques.
That said, without beating this dead horse any more than it has been already, I still scratch my head when I read that one hears no major differences between DTS tracks and DD tracks. The DTS tracks on every title that I own sound "better" to these ears, in varying degrees of course. For this DTS fan, that makes it a superior experience.
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Originally posted by Johnny Zhivago
That said, without beating this dead horse any more than it has been already, I still scratch my head when I read that one hears no major differences between DTS tracks and DD tracks.
That said, without beating this dead horse any more than it has been already, I still scratch my head when I read that one hears no major differences between DTS tracks and DD tracks.
Speaking of that, I'll listen to the library scene in my upstairs system (Toshiba 6109 integrated dvd/receiver, Mirage 460 speakers for mains, PSB Alpha A/V rears) and see if I hear what you're talking about. What chapter # is that?
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Originally posted by stevevt
I think that the overwhelming majority of people do not have a system that allows them to hear significant differences. Exhibit A: a lot of dvd players will play MP3s. MP3! And people listen to them and enjoy them! Think about that one...
Speaking of that, I'll listen to the library scene in my upstairs system (Toshiba 6109 integrated dvd/receiver, Mirage 460 speakers for mains, PSB Alpha A/V rears) and see if I hear what you're talking about. What chapter # is that?
I think that the overwhelming majority of people do not have a system that allows them to hear significant differences. Exhibit A: a lot of dvd players will play MP3s. MP3! And people listen to them and enjoy them! Think about that one...
Speaking of that, I'll listen to the library scene in my upstairs system (Toshiba 6109 integrated dvd/receiver, Mirage 460 speakers for mains, PSB Alpha A/V rears) and see if I hear what you're talking about. What chapter # is that?
Don't recall right off hand (I'm at work) which chapter # it is... It's fairly early in the film though, the scene where Morgan Freeman goes to the library, the security guards are playing poker and I'm pretty sure, if I remember correctly, that the music is Bach's Air On A G String. Classical music and DTS are a match made in heaven.
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Originally posted by Jabx
changing to better (and larger) wire would help somewhat IMO
Nothing against AIWA, but from everything I've read their systems don't sound all that great
changing to better (and larger) wire would help somewhat IMO
Nothing against AIWA, but from everything I've read their systems don't sound all that great
Unless you are running over a VERY long distance, 16-18 ga. speaker wire will work just fine, no matter what brand of system you are using! Don't buy (no pun intended) into the Monster Cable 'cult'! You are paying for a name!
Lighten up on the Aiwa bashing! Do you folks REALLY expect him to go out and replace a system that he is happy with, just because he possibly wants new/better wiring?
Good luck jessecrx & enjoy!
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Brian Shannon: Do you own the New Line Platinum of Se7en? If so, cue up the library scene with Morgan Freeman and give it a bounce between DTS and DD... The DTS track is obviously superior in every aspect and is the scene I use to demo the differences between DTS and DD for friends.
I have done A/B comparisons with dvd's that I have and I can honestly say that for me it does not make a noticeable difference. If anything on Gladiator for instance I much prefer the DD track.
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Speakers are easily 2/3 or greater of the sound quality equation. If you want to improve your sound there's no better way than better speakers. Even if you're using a $300 HTIAB setup, add a good set of speakers and you'll improve your sound a lot.
Upgrading your receiver by a factor of 5 will improve sound by maybe a factor of 1, but the same upgrade with speakers will improve it easily by a factor of 4-5. If you had $1000 then you shouldn't spend much more than $200 on a receiver and put the rest into speakers.
Unless you have a $50,000+ system, you'll never hear the difference b/t Home Depot 16ga wire and a $1,000 pair of speaker wires. Even then it's debatable...
Upgrading your receiver by a factor of 5 will improve sound by maybe a factor of 1, but the same upgrade with speakers will improve it easily by a factor of 4-5. If you had $1000 then you shouldn't spend much more than $200 on a receiver and put the rest into speakers.
Unless you have a $50,000+ system, you'll never hear the difference b/t Home Depot 16ga wire and a $1,000 pair of speaker wires. Even then it's debatable...
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Originally posted by jessecrx
What home theater in a box set up would you guys suggest?? Now remember, I'm not exactly crappin money, but I can save a bit to get something decent The Aiwa system I have doesnt support DTS, only Dolby 5.1 and I keep hearing about how great DTS is, so that give me some incentive to buy another system too.
What home theater in a box set up would you guys suggest?? Now remember, I'm not exactly crappin money, but I can save a bit to get something decent The Aiwa system I have doesnt support DTS, only Dolby 5.1 and I keep hearing about how great DTS is, so that give me some incentive to buy another system too.
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LOL!! You guys are hilarious...get on one topic and drift to another...such is life...who can explain it??
Anyways, so upgrading my speakers would be a good start for now?? I am happy with my front end speakers and sub because they really bump. It's my light(weaksounding) rear speakers that bug me. They're so light and so little that I can't imagin them really thumping when those bad ass surround scenes come along. And since the wire is internal(meaning the wire cannot be removed without opening the speaker housing)I wonder if its possible to just cut the wire and hook some other speakers to them.
My brother had the crazy notion of hooking up a pair of really nice Pioneer 6.5 three way speakers in place of them to see if they made a difference. He even made these really nice looking mini speaker boxes for them. I told him I'd hold off on the idea and let me get some feedback from the forum.
What do you guys think?
Can ghetto mods to my wimpy sound system make a difference in the meantime while I save my money to but another sound system?
Thanks guys.
Oh and about Mp3......hehehe.....just kidding...we won't go there I don't wanna accidentally volunteer to become Referree Mills Lane while you guys argue about it I will say this though...I sure am learning alot from these forums.
Jesse
Anyways, so upgrading my speakers would be a good start for now?? I am happy with my front end speakers and sub because they really bump. It's my light(weaksounding) rear speakers that bug me. They're so light and so little that I can't imagin them really thumping when those bad ass surround scenes come along. And since the wire is internal(meaning the wire cannot be removed without opening the speaker housing)I wonder if its possible to just cut the wire and hook some other speakers to them.
My brother had the crazy notion of hooking up a pair of really nice Pioneer 6.5 three way speakers in place of them to see if they made a difference. He even made these really nice looking mini speaker boxes for them. I told him I'd hold off on the idea and let me get some feedback from the forum.
What do you guys think?
Can ghetto mods to my wimpy sound system make a difference in the meantime while I save my money to but another sound system?
Thanks guys.
Oh and about Mp3......hehehe.....just kidding...we won't go there I don't wanna accidentally volunteer to become Referree Mills Lane while you guys argue about it I will say this though...I sure am learning alot from these forums.
Jesse
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No Do not hook up your brothers car speakrs to your Aiwa system, on a larger dedicated system like a Denon or Onkyo it will be able to support 4 ohm speakers but I have a funny feeeling it will smoke your box system. But as far as jerry rigging your system by cutting the wires, you would have no problems. Unless the amp doesn't have enough power, which might be true, but for now it would be ok
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