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Old 09-04-01 | 01:37 PM
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Digital Cable Question?

I am trying to split the main cable coming into the house. It is a regualar digital coax or something like that. I think it is like RG-6 or something. Anyway, I have the main cable in the bedroom. I have it going to a splitter that is then one goes to bedroom and the rest goes on it merry way over to the family room. Does it matter that I don't have a digital splitter, is that going to mess up my cable.

The reason I say this cause I am have digital cable and the LINE tech is coming to fix it supposedly this saturday. Because it has been fuzzy, I just want to make sure that signal will stay stong and clear.

If I have to purchase more equipment that will be fine as well. Thanks in advance.
Old 09-05-01 | 09:15 AM
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I don't think there's such a thing as a digital splitter (but what do I know...). What you may want to ensure, though (especially if you ever get a cable modem) is that the splitters can handle a 2ghz bandwidth or more. I'm not sure if digital cable itself requires that bandwidth, but it can't hurt.

Most splitters have printed on them the max bandwidth (most standard ones are 900mhz-1ghz or so). You'll need to hunt for the higher bandwidth ones.

I have this type of setup with two splitters, both 2.4 ghz, and everything works great.
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Originally posted by MichaelBlanton
I don't think there's such a thing as a digital splitter (but what do I know...). What you may want to ensure, though (especially if you ever get a cable modem) is that the splitters can handle a 2ghz bandwidth or more. I'm not sure if digital cable itself requires that bandwidth, but it can't hurt.

Most splitters have printed on them the max bandwidth (most standard ones are 900mhz-1ghz or so). You'll need to hunt for the higher bandwidth ones.

I have this type of setup with two splitters, both 2.4 ghz, and everything works great.
Wow thanks. I really appreciate that. It sounds like it would work, and it sounds like you know what you are talking about.
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Not sure how much this has changed but I remember way back when that if you split the signal more than 3 times you'll need an amplifyer to boost the signal. Also check to make sure all the fittings are tight on the connections. We had ingress a few months back and the Cable tech said the contractor that installed the cable had used a washer inbetween the fitting and the grounding block thus preventing a good seal.
Old 09-05-01 | 03:35 PM
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My Digital Cable modem requires a Special Splitter to pass higher frequencies. They also used a Higher Quality true 75 OHM Co-ax cable they made on the spot.

Do not know if The Digital Cable Box requires these signals or not.
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I work installing road runner/digital cable for TWC subcontractor... The Tech coming to your house most likely will decide to replace the line from the outside cable source to your house... The splitter you use could have an adverse effect on your cable because everytime you split off of your line you loose siginal. Generally A three way splitter will drop 2 lines by 7 points and the other by 3.5 if you throw the digital line on the 3.5 drop then you should see marked improvment... You could also ask the tech about giving you an amp... The cable you are talking about is RG-56, it is good cable but just like with any wire/cable any tear can cause a decrease in signal. If your line comes from a pole and hasn't been replace in a while it is possible the signal that is coming into the house isn't strong enough due to weather birds or other creatures chewing on the line. Basically on a good wire channel 73 loses 3.5 points of siginal per 100 feet so if you have an 12 points at the pole then you go 100 feet to the house you now have 8.5 points then you spit it off and loose 7 points you now have 1.5 points the the wire has to go to your t.v. which drops it even more hence the bad siginal. If one of your lines is bad instead of only loosing 3.5 points you could loose 10 or more before you even hit the splitter giving you a bad signal or fuzzy t.v.


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Old 09-06-01 | 09:02 PM
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I work installing road runner/digital cable for TWC subcontractor... The Tech coming to your house most likely will decide to replace the line from the outside cable source to your house... The splitter you use could have an adverse effect on your cable because everytime you split off of your line you loose siginal. Generally A three way splitter will drop 2 lines by 7 points and the other by 3.5 if you throw the digital line on the 3.5 drop then you should see marked improvment... You could also ask the tech about giving you an amp... The cable you are talking about is RG-56, it is good cable but just like with any wire/cable any tear can cause a decrease in signal. If your line comes from a pole and hasn't been replace in a while it is possible the signal that is coming into the house isn't strong enough due to weather birds or other creatures chewing on the line. Basically on a good wire channel 73 loses 3.5 points of siginal per 100 feet so if you have an 12 points at the pole then you go 100 feet to the house you now have 8.5 points then you spit it off and loose 7 points you now have 1.5 points the the wire has to go to your t.v. which drops it even more hence the bad siginal. If one of your lines is bad instead of only loosing 3.5 points you could loose 10 or more before you even hit the splitter giving you a bad signal or fuzzy t.v.


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...Uhm, yeah. That's exactly what I meant to say...And remember: He who dies with the most points wins!

As far as what cubanx said, the 'special splitter' is just a high frequency (2 ghz or more) splitter.
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I have one of those monster cable 2gHz splitters-a 1in/4out splitter, and I haven't noticed a difference in quality after I put in the splitter. All 4 are hooked up (I actually need 5, but I use a vcr pass for the tv connection) with monster video 2 and there's no booster-but the run is pretty short. About 5 feet max from the splitter for any component.
Old 09-06-01 | 11:39 PM
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Originally posted by shadowhawk2020
I work installing road runner/digital cable for TWC subcontractor... The Tech coming to your house most likely will decide to replace the line from the outside cable source to your house... The splitter you use could have an adverse effect on your cable because everytime you split off of your line you loose siginal. Generally A three way splitter will drop 2 lines by 7 points and the other by 3.5 if you throw the digital line on the 3.5 drop then you should see marked improvment... You could also ask the tech about giving you an amp... The cable you are talking about is RG-56, it is good cable but just like with any wire/cable any tear can cause a decrease in signal. If your line comes from a pole and hasn't been replace in a while it is possible the signal that is coming into the house isn't strong enough due to weather birds or other creatures chewing on the line. Basically on a good wire channel 73 loses 3.5 points of siginal per 100 feet so if you have an 12 points at the pole then you go 100 feet to the house you now have 8.5 points then you spit it off and loose 7 points you now have 1.5 points the the wire has to go to your t.v. which drops it even more hence the bad siginal. If one of your lines is bad instead of only loosing 3.5 points you could loose 10 or more before you even hit the splitter giving you a bad signal or fuzzy t.v.


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I hope you are coming to my house this weekend. Because I am so fed up with all these problems I am having. I also spoke to the CS and she said back in 97 there was an issue with grounding whatever that meant. I am sure I will take it up with the line tech. I will be sure to print it out. Thanks again. I hope someone does come this time. I don't mind getting the 20+ dollar credit on my cable but I would like to see what I am paying for.
Old 09-07-01 | 08:00 AM
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Grounding would not cause "fuzzy" cable... That is just something the csr's tell people to shut them up. Grounding is keeping your cable protected from being effected (for the most part) by power surges. All they do is take a copper wire attach it from the splitter outside to a metal pole/wire. It shold not help your signal any. I would say it is probably a line or possibly a bad splitter(it happens) if they decide that it is not the line they might say it is split off to many times and opt to put an amp in the house which is ok but if they do that be sure they put it somewhere it won't be easily unplugged, the second your amp gets unplugged your signal goes to crap...



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Old 09-07-01 | 11:49 AM
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shadowhawk, so my best bet is for them to replace all the cable. I live in aparment complex. So I really don't care about my neighbors they are really nice. But, I want my damn cable. I did not realize how bad it is. I don't get 2-5 and then the far spectrum I get a black screen. I hate it.

I feel like the guy in delirious, I get black line and channel 2 and thru 13.
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You never said it was an apartment... That is a little more difficult, Can you see the line come in to the apartment? or is it a large apartment complex? The only way to go on a large aprtment complex is usually an amp because the line to your apartment was run when the place was built and is embedded in concrete. Look around the outside of your complex and see if you see the cable come in... Also very imptrtant since it is a rental get written permission for a new line to be run if possible from your renters or the cable guy will be able to drill.



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I had the same problem and they insalled this thing to make the signal stronger. Maybe like a repeater on tcp/ip networks. Anyways it just sits in-between your line and you plug the box in and voila stronger signal.

I was haing a problem with channels taking forever to change, and everything would be squares.
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The thing is an amp the only problem is if the signal is crap it gets to the amp, all you will be amping is well crap...



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Old 09-10-01 | 12:19 PM
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Well, the line tech is coming today. They were supposed to come saturday, but the dispatcher was never told about this. Apparently, the CS rep never told the dispatch team on several occassions to come to my house.

I got the credit. But it still bugs me. They should be coming between 12:30 and 4:30 woohoo. IF not, another credit. grr
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Is he still there? What was your problem? Give me a heads up...




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Old 09-17-01 | 03:11 PM
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Well the guy never came that monday. They did arrive today and they have no idea what was going on with my cable. He mentioned something about cycles and stuff to my finance'. She said they are going to come back and rewire my whole cable. WOOHOO!

At least that might solve the problem. In the meantime, I am awaiting I am going to split the cable with the reccomened splitters.

Thanks everyone.

I will let you what is going on. Thanks again shadowhawk.
Old 09-20-01 | 08:22 AM
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That should help... Like I said bad lines, the good news is you are getting all new lines the bad news is they didn't do it on the spot which means it is probbably going to take awhile to get there and to do... Make sure when they schedule you to be there that you have a LONG time you can stay... Apartments wires are pre run most of the time and can be a pain to re run.


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