Official No More New Fox/Universal DVDs From CH Thread
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Official No More New Fox/Universal DVDs From CH Thread
As most of you know CH stopped carrying new 20th Century Fox and Universal titles around the same time. I believe it was around September/October when titles like Van Helsing, The Day After Tomorrow, and Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind did not show up for pre-order or become available on release day.
UPDATE - New Universal titles have been showing up on release day, but some of their catalog titles are still missing
CH never made an announcement about this, so we do not know the official reasons or when/if these titles will become available.
CH does appear to still offer new Dreamworks/Universal titles such as Collateral and Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy.
Please feel free to add missing or upcoming Fox/Universal titles to this thread so that people can know in advance if they will have to buy the DVD elsewhere.
Some of the recent titles missing from CH:
20th Century Fox:
The Day After Tomorrow
Alien Vs. Predator
Daredevil - Director's Cut
Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story
I, Robot
Napoleon Dynamite
Predator 2 - Collector's Edition
UPDATE - New Universal titles have been showing up on release day, but some of their catalog titles are still missing
CH never made an announcement about this, so we do not know the official reasons or when/if these titles will become available.
CH does appear to still offer new Dreamworks/Universal titles such as Collateral and Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy.
Please feel free to add missing or upcoming Fox/Universal titles to this thread so that people can know in advance if they will have to buy the DVD elsewhere.
Some of the recent titles missing from CH:
20th Century Fox:
The Day After Tomorrow
Alien Vs. Predator
Daredevil - Director's Cut
Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story
I, Robot
Napoleon Dynamite
Predator 2 - Collector's Edition
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Are they going to stop selling older Fox/Universal titles as they sell out? Yesterday Barton Fink and Raising Arizona (both Fox) were listed on the site; today they are missing (which is disappointing since I wanted to get them for enrollment soon). Do you think their disappearance has to do with this or might it be unrelated?
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Originally posted by mpaul39
Are they going to stop selling older Fox/Universal titles as they sell out? Yesterday Barton Fink and Raising Arizona (both Fox) were listed on the site; today they are missing (which is disappointing since I wanted to get them for enrollment soon). Do you think their disappearance has to do with this or might it be unrelated?
Are they going to stop selling older Fox/Universal titles as they sell out? Yesterday Barton Fink and Raising Arizona (both Fox) were listed on the site; today they are missing (which is disappointing since I wanted to get them for enrollment soon). Do you think their disappearance has to do with this or might it be unrelated?
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Originally posted by mpaul39
Are they going to stop selling older Fox/Universal titles as they sell out?
Are they going to stop selling older Fox/Universal titles as they sell out?

The best indicator of whether Fox & Universal titles really are disappearing would probably be bga's data-miner, but unfortunately it isn't working right now. The last update that had good numbers was 11/02, as 11/09 and 11/16 were both shorting over a thousand titles, so I guess there's not really any reliable current data other than our own anecdotal findings.
Nevertheless, I decided to look at bga's 11/02 spreadsheet as well as some earlier ones I had stashed on the computer to see if the old numbers showed anything interesting. Here are four snapshot selection totals for five studios over the last year. I'm formatting-challenged so please excuse the ugly.
The order is Fox, Universal, Warner, Paramount, then Columbia/Tri-Star:
01/06/04 - 325 - 440 - 794 - 344 - 557
06/15/04 - 436 - 495 - 863 - 462 - 688
08/31/04 - 439 - 512 - 968 - 522 - 732
11/02/04 - 425 - 483 - 1065 - 580 - 849
As you can see CH is steadily increasing its Warner, Paramount, and Columbia/Tri-Star catalogs whereas both Fox and Universal plateaued then actually declined. Perhaps the decline could be attributed to the elimination of pre-orders or just regular attrition for a now static catalog, but it's still a bit worrying.
To be on the safe side, I think I'll be looking over the current Fox and Universal selections and prioritizing them. I had planned to fulfill my current account with 3-for-$25 titles, but I believe I've put off those Monster Legacies long enough.
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I've noticed some Hitchcock titles have disappeared.
Psycho
Marnie
Saboteur
are no longer available.
Other stuff I've tracked that hasn't become available:
U:
Cloak & Dagger
Dazed And Confused (Flashback Edition - Widescreen)
Dawn Of The Dead (2004 - Widescreen)
The Thing
Born On The Fourth Of July (Special Edition)
F:
The Vanishing
It is a bummer. I guess they won't be having a clearance sale on this stuff either. No accouncements, no official word. I think they are in denial
Psycho
Marnie
Saboteur
are no longer available.
Other stuff I've tracked that hasn't become available:
U:
Cloak & Dagger
Dazed And Confused (Flashback Edition - Widescreen)
Dawn Of The Dead (2004 - Widescreen)
The Thing
Born On The Fourth Of July (Special Edition)
F:
The Vanishing
It is a bummer. I guess they won't be having a clearance sale on this stuff either. No accouncements, no official word. I think they are in denial
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The current Fox and Universal titles will disappear from the site as their stock runs out. If they don't have a deal to offer new releases, then they don't have a deal to continue to offer the existing titles.
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Originally posted by basaro
Psycho
Marnie
Saboteur
...
Dazed And Confused (Flashback Edition - Widescreen)
Psycho
Marnie
Saboteur
...
Dazed And Confused (Flashback Edition - Widescreen)
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Originally posted by JCFantasy23
I got Marnie and Chronicles of Riddick from them before...does this mean they're just selling out and not restocking? Hadnt heard of this
I got Marnie and Chronicles of Riddick from them before...does this mean they're just selling out and not restocking? Hadnt heard of this
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I ordered "A Walk In The Clouds" (Fox title) as a 3 for $25 selection a few days ago. It is now missing from my order status and will not show up as a search result.
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The current Fox and Universal titles will disappear from the site as their stock runs out. If they don't have a deal to offer new releases, then they don't have a deal to continue to offer the existing titles.
The current Fox and Universal titles will disappear from the site as their stock runs out. If they don't have a deal to offer new releases, then they don't have a deal to continue to offer the existing titles.
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Originally posted by Easy
We've seen this happen before but I can't recall how long it lasted. I suppose until they renegotiate a new deal... if they ever do. I clearly recall this happening with Fox before. Their films disappeared then gradually came back at a much later date. Seems like it was about a year, does that sound right?
We've seen this happen before but I can't recall how long it lasted. I suppose until they renegotiate a new deal... if they ever do. I clearly recall this happening with Fox before. Their films disappeared then gradually came back at a much later date. Seems like it was about a year, does that sound right?
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grivet - thanks for the excellent analysis!! It's not often on the internet that someone actually takes the time to provide some facts...... 
I think our concerns are driven at this point by the repeated cases of titles from Universal and Fox suddenly disappearing. It suggests a trend.

I think our concerns are driven at this point by the repeated cases of titles from Universal and Fox suddenly disappearing. It suggests a trend.
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"Yup, sounds about right... May have been a little longer. But, yeah, all of the Fox titles went MIA for a long time... Looks like the same thing is happening again."
man i hope it's just that. i tried a search with CH canada too, and those titles do not exist
man i hope it's just that. i tried a search with CH canada too, and those titles do not exist
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Originally posted by Easy
We've seen this happen before but I can't recall how long it lasted. I suppose until they renegotiate a new deal... if they ever do. I clearly recall this happening with Fox before. Their films disappeared then gradually came back at a much later date. Seems like it was about a year, does that sound right? So it could be a while. I expect to see Fox and Universal back eventually but I think Disney and associates are gone forever.
We've seen this happen before but I can't recall how long it lasted. I suppose until they renegotiate a new deal... if they ever do. I clearly recall this happening with Fox before. Their films disappeared then gradually came back at a much later date. Seems like it was about a year, does that sound right? So it could be a while. I expect to see Fox and Universal back eventually but I think Disney and associates are gone forever.
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Apollo 13, Waterworld, Pushing Tin, Rising Sun, Blues Brothers also gone. That's 7 out of 17 that I checked.
Apollo 13, Waterworld, Pushing Tin, Rising Sun, Blues Brothers also gone. That's 7 out of 17 that I checked.
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Originally posted by bboisvert
I don't know about the others, but Blues Brothers has been gone for months. That's out-of-print and pretty much unavailable anywhere.
I don't know about the others, but Blues Brothers has been gone for months. That's out-of-print and pretty much unavailable anywhere.



