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Bluelitespecial 02-16-21 03:10 PM

Batman '89 and Superman '78 getting comic book series continuing their stories
 
I've hardly ventured to this side of the forum before but it feels like the best place to put this news.
https://io9.gizmodo.com/batman-89-an...c-b-1846281208

The worlds of two of the most beloved DC Comics adaptations are making their way back to the comics themselves—not as adaptations, but new stories set in the worlds of Tim Burton and Richard Donner.

Today DC Comics revealed that the 1989 Batman movie and 1978's Superman: The Movie will receive new, ongoing digital-first comic series set in their respective cinematic worlds. Superman ‘78 will be written by Rob Venditti and feature art from Wilfredo Torres, and is set at a time when Christopher Reeves’ iconic take on the Man of Steel has only just become known to the public, balancing his burgeoning romance with an unsuspecting Lois Lane with saving the world with dazzling feats.

Batman ‘89, meanwhile features a very interesting creative team. Sam Hamm, who co-wrote the scripts for Batman and Batman Returns (spinning that into actual comics-writing experience with 1989's Batman: Blind Justice with artist Denys Cowan), will pen the series. On art is comics superstar Joe Quinones, who revealed his plans for a rejected Batman ‘89 comics continuation back in 2016, which would’ve built off of the world of the original Tim Burton movie to introduce cinematic takes on the likes of Batgirl, Harley Quinn, and Poison Ivy in the gothic Burton style.


It's supposed to be a digital series followed by hardcover editions being released in the fall. I'll wait for reviews but I'll be very interested in Batman Hardcover book and its being written by one of the movie's writers Sam Hamm.

fujishig 02-16-21 03:12 PM

Re: Batman '89 and Superman '78 getting comic book series continuing their stories
 

Originally Posted by Bluelitespecial (Post 13891852)
I've hardly ventured to this side of the forum before but it feels like the best place to put this news.

So Superman is basically between Superman 1 and 2, which makes sense because you don't really want to touch anything in the 3, 4, or Returns eras.

Bluelitespecial 02-16-21 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 13891853)
So Superman is basically between Superman 1 and 2, which makes sense because you don't really want to touch anything in the 3, 4, or Returns eras.

I'm more of a Batman fan so I'm pretty excited by this news.

IBJoel 02-16-21 03:31 PM

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Agreed, I'm super hyped for Batman '89. They even got the artist who originally pitched it 5 years ago!

Red Hood 02-16-21 03:36 PM

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Red Hood 02-16-21 03:37 PM

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milo bloom 02-16-21 03:50 PM

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I love this idea, I'm a little surprised nothing was done with it earlier. These were the Superman and Batman movies of my youth, and their looks are what created my impression of these characters for years to come (after the SuperFriends cartoons).

IBJoel 02-16-21 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Hood (Post 13891872)

Oh dude! I hade that action figure! The Bruce Wayne one in the all black. You could snap on armor pieces to make him Batman.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...e13955ab58.jpg

fujishig 02-16-21 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 13891888)
I love this idea, I'm a little surprised nothing was done with it earlier. These were the Superman and Batman movies of my youth, and their looks are what created my impression of these characters for years to come (after the SuperFriends cartoons).

I'll add that I just introduced my kids to the original Superman movie (we will probably only do the first two). I thought it would be too slow for them, and the real estate scheme is still as goofy as ever, but they loved it. They'll love the comics too (once they come to the DC Universe service).

Mike86 02-16-21 04:01 PM

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Definitely interested in the Batman ‘89 book. Not sure about some of those character designs though. The Gordon in particular doesn’t look like the Pat Hingle version of the character from the movies.

Alfred looks good. Batman/Bruce look pretty good- I like the seeming homage to that toy (I can’t imagine where else they pulled that design from).

The villains are a mixed bag. I don’t particularly care about Joker thugs when the Joker is dead in this universe. Just introduce actual villains and do them inspired by the Burton films.

ddrknghtrtns 02-16-21 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 13891892)
Oh dude! I hade that action figure! The Bruce Wayne one in the all black. You could snap on armor pieces to make him Batman.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...e13955ab58.jpg

Christmas gift back around 90 or 91. I 'm still​​​​ hoping to​ see a Superman 55' comic based on the George Reeves tv show.

PhantomStranger 02-16-21 06:05 PM

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I'm loving that artwork for Superman '78.

Hokeyboy 02-17-21 04:04 AM

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Bring on the inevitable crossover :thumbsup:​​​​​​​

Bluelitespecial 02-17-21 11:19 AM

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Here's the cover for Batman.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...652f416ec8.jpg

Mike86 02-17-21 12:24 PM

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Hoping eventually that we’ll see the Billy Dee Williams of Harvey Dent become Two Face. Also more of Catwoman to pick up where Batman Returns ended would be cool.

There’s definitely some potential for some good stories to be told in that universe. Kind of surprised that it’s taken this long to happen.

I’m not as interested in Superman ‘78, but I’ll probably still check that one out too. I like the artwork for it slightly more than the Batman ‘89 art.

Red Hood 02-17-21 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ddrknghtrtns (Post 13891921)
Christmas gift back around 90 or 91. I 'm still​​​​ hoping to​ see a Superman 55' comic based on the George Reeves tv show.

People where hoping to see that back when Batman 66 came out but it seems that the George Reeves state refused. That's there has been 0 products based on the George Reeve Superman. We are more likely to see Flash 1990 come along thanks to these projects.

Nesbit 02-17-21 12:56 PM

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Unless reviews are horrible will be picking up the hardcover of Batman 89. May or may not get Superman.

milo bloom 02-17-21 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by IBJoel (Post 13891892)
Oh dude! I hade that action figure! The Bruce Wayne one in the all black. You could snap on armor pieces to make him Batman.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...e13955ab58.jpg

I wasn't a big Bat-toy collector, but I think I had that one and enjoyed the costume aspect of it.


Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 13891898)
The villains are a mixed bag. I don’t particularly care about Joker thugs when the Joker is dead in this universe. .

Unless they can't get the rights to Jack Nicholson's image, I can totally see them finding a way to bring back the Joker. Haven't other Bat-comics brought him back with the Lazarus pit thingy?




Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 13891894)
I'll add that I just introduced my kids to the original Superman movie (we will probably only do the first two). I thought it would be too slow for them, and the real estate scheme is still as goofy as ever, but they loved it. They'll love the comics too (once they come to the DC Universe service).

I love the original Superman so much. My friends tease me because I'd rather rewatch Superman 78 than watch any of the MCU movies (I'm about halfway through those).

fujishig 02-17-21 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 13892391)

I love the original Superman so much. My friends tease me because I'd rather rewatch Superman 78 than watch any of the MCU movies (I'm about halfway through those).

I know people are going to say I'm just ragging on the newer movies, but Superman 78's Clark growing up scene still gets me (and it's not just the score). The hokey running animation aside, I love Pa Kent just shaking his head when Clark was showing off, but didn't stop and lecture him for an hour. My son was like "why didn't he save his dad" and I told him, there are some things even Superman can't do. It's hard to believe the modern interpretation of that was so bad.

SeeingThings 02-24-21 01:46 PM

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Interesting news.

PhantomStranger 02-25-21 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 13892418)
I know people are going to say I'm just ragging on the newer movies, but Superman 78's Clark growing up scene still gets me (and it's not just the score). The hokey running animation aside, I love Pa Kent just shaking his head when Clark was showing off, but didn't stop and lecture him for an hour. My son was like "why didn't he save his dad" and I told him, there are some things even Superman can't do. It's hard to believe the modern interpretation of that was so bad.

Snyder also wanted Batman to sleep with Lois Lane before executives above nixed it. His depiction of DC characters is almost completely out of left field.

fujishig 02-25-21 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 13896654)
Snyder also wanted Batman to sleep with Lois Lane before executives above nixed it. His depiction of DC characters is almost completely out of left field.

Wait, what? Is there an article on this, or you just know because you're the Phantom Stranger (I know you have sources)? ;)

milo bloom 02-25-21 02:21 PM

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Will the Batman '89 series also include Forever and B&R? They're not Burton and they have different actors for Batman, but they were always intended to be part of the same series, iirc.

PhantomStranger 02-25-21 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 13896704)
Wait, what? Is there an article on this, or you just know because you're the Phantom Stranger (I know you have sources)? ;)

It was circulating for a couple years already but the Bruce-Lois angle was mentioned in this Vanity Fair piece, I believe.

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood...gue-snyder-cut

ddrknghtrtns 02-25-21 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 13897108)
It was circulating for a couple years already but the Bruce-Lois angle was mentioned in this Vanity Fair piece, I believe.

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood...gue-snyder-cut

Yet again garbage like this is why Superman has become such a hard sale to the general public. You don't read or see Kevin Feige ever belittling any of the Marvel characters just to make a juvenile point that one has a bigger dong than the others.



fujishig 02-25-21 07:51 PM

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OMG wat:

But Warner Bros. did nix some of his more sweeping notions for Justice League, like adding a romance between Ben Affleck’s Bruce Wayne and Amy Adams’s Lois Lane, who was mourning Superman’s death in the previous film. “The intention was that Bruce fell in love with Lois and then realized that the only way to save the world was to bring Superman back to life,” says Snyder. “So he had this insane conflict, because Lois, of course, was still in love with Superman. We had this beautiful speech where [Bruce] said to Alfred: ‘I never had a life outside the cave. I never imagined a world for me beyond this. But this woman makes me think that if I can get this group of gods together, then my job is done. I can quit. I can stop.’ And of course that doesn’t work out for him.”

It didn’t work out for Snyder either. The studio said no.
Oh the pathos.

Please tell me he put this back in the 4:3 version so I can skip it. Wow. A beautiful speech huh? I can't even...

apologies for the threadcrap, this is like a new revelation to me.

whotony 02-25-21 08:15 PM

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I haven’t had interest in reading a comic series in over a decade or more.

This has my interest.

I still can’t believe Batman was over 30 years ago now.

PhantomStranger 02-27-21 01:05 AM

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Supposedly there is some nudity in the Snyder cut - superheroes will be in various states of undress. Doubt it would be Wonder Woman, more likely a couple male backsides.

ytrez 02-27-21 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 13897828)
Supposedly there is some nudity in the Snyder cut - superheroes will be in various states of undress. Doubt it would be Wonder Woman, more likely a couple male backsides.

If true, this just further illustrates why Snyder doesn't know how to make a comic book movie. Particularly a DC Comics movie.

IBJoel 03-02-21 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ytrez (Post 13897855)
If true, this just further illustrates why Snyder doesn't know how to make a comic book movie. Particularly a DC Comics movie.

Yeah, everyone knows if you're going to have buttcheeks, they need to be Dick Grayson's.

IBJoel 03-02-21 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 13896935)
Will the Batman '89 series also include Forever and B&R? They're not Burton and they have different actors for Batman, but they were always intended to be part of the same series, iirc.

I guess they haven't really said, but in the original comic pitch, Two-Face was going to be based on Billy Dee Williams and Poison Ivy definitely looked closer to B:TAS than Uma Thurman. I wouldn't be surprised if they take certain elements from the Schumacher films, but it seems like they'll just do their own thing.

Bluelitespecial 03-07-21 09:50 AM

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All signs point to the Batman comic being set in Tim Burton's Gotham City so I'd say it won't reference Batman Forever or Batman and Robin. Amazon now has listing and release dates for the Hardcover books.

Batman '89-October 26th

Superman '78-November 9th

urrutiap 03-07-21 11:06 AM

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speaking of the old 1989-1990s Tim Burton and per Schumaker Batman days, wasnt there supposed to be Joker's girlfriend Alicia/Harley and Scarecrow for Batman 3 back then?

i hope the new 1989 Batman comic will involve those instead of focusing too much on the black Robin that was supposed to be played by one of those Marlan brothers.

also original Superman III back then was supposed to have Brainiac instead of the Brainy/super computer.

also didnt Christopher Reeve or whoever have an original story idea for Superman IV and V before his horse riding accident?

Bluelitespecial 03-07-21 11:12 AM

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I'm pretty sure Harley Quinn didn't come along until Batman The Animated Series.

Mike86 03-07-21 11:23 AM

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I believe Burton’s third Batman film was intended to have Selina Kyle/Catwoman back, and would have also brought back Billy Dee Williams as Harvey Dent. Eventually Dent would have become Two-Face.

urrutiap 03-07-21 01:48 PM

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yes I know that. I said either Alicia or Harley. I grew up with old school movie news from Wizard Magazine back then in the early mid 1990s.

Batman 3 was supposed to have Scarecrow and Joker's old "girlfriend" played by Madonna as Alicia the blonde gal as Grissam's gal from the first Burton Batman movie, or at least something similar to Harley Quinn.


Originally Posted by Bluelitespecial (Post 13901797)
I'm pretty sure Harley Quinn didn't come along until Batman The Animated Series.


majorjoe23 03-07-21 04:10 PM

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There was talk of Batman V having Scarecrow and Harley Quinn, and possibly Nicholson back as a fear gas-induced Joker cameo.

Mike86 03-07-21 04:36 PM

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Yeah, Scarecrow was set to be in one of the many abandoned scripts for the fifth Batman film. Obviously we didn’t get a fifth film, and instead were given Batman Begins to reboot the character.

Red Hood 03-14-21 03:56 PM

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I understand that at one point they had Marlon Wayans as Robin to the point that the action figure that came out at the time had a the flattop that Wayans was going to be sporting as the character. It was rumored that WB was supposed to be approaching Robin Williams to play the Riddler. Harley Quinn first appeared around 1994 but she wasn't rumored to be on the Burton film. On the other hand, people thought that Drew Barrymore was going to be Harley when she was cast in Batman Forever. Instead, she just had that small role as Sugar.



Mike86 03-14-21 04:50 PM

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Interesting. That actually does make sense.


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