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10-15-07 | 12:51 PM
#26
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Originally Posted by Superboy
This is by far one of the best "big events" since...well, I can't really remember the last time I enjoyed an event of this magnitude. The art and story is just coming together so well. It's epic. It's heartfelt. It's action packed. It draws on both the history of these characters and paves the way for future storytelling without violating continuity. It's created a legitimate enemy in the DCU, something that has really been missing outside of Batman's rogue's gallery.
You know what this story is? it's Geoff Johns keeping up with making good on his promise to bring back the Silver Age. That age of high heroics but with characters you could relate to. Where lines between good and evil were still very clear, although tough times call for tough solutions.
Most importantly, this story is actually entertaining to read
You know what this story is? it's Geoff Johns keeping up with making good on his promise to bring back the Silver Age. That age of high heroics but with characters you could relate to. Where lines between good and evil were still very clear, although tough times call for tough solutions.
Most importantly, this story is actually entertaining to read
Its funny the hardcore comic fans who always made fun of me when i said one of my favorite heros was Green Lantern, is now diehard fans of this storyline.
10-15-07 | 01:20 PM
#27
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Originally Posted by paradicelost
I just went to pick up my comics for the month, and a majority of them were Green Lantern books or one shots for the sinestro storyline.
Its funny the hardcore comic fans who always made fun of me when i said one of my favorite heros was Green Lantern, is now diehard fans of this storyline.
Its funny the hardcore comic fans who always made fun of me when i said one of my favorite heros was Green Lantern, is now diehard fans of this storyline.
Now Aquaman, on the other hand... I liked Peter David's take on him, and I have no doubt the reimagining is good, but if he's your favorite superhero, then I'm not sure what to say...
10-15-07 | 01:50 PM
#28
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Originally Posted by Sessa17
There is actually a world of great comic books out there besides Superman & Batman books.
Shadowpact & Checkmate - In a medium where all anyone seems to want is Spider-man comics & X-crossovers, these are 2 superhero books that actually try to be different. I know that sounds scary & a lot of comic book fans simply can't get into a comic unless it has an A-list character with lots of movies & merchandise spun out of him, but these are comics with talented writers actually making lesser known superheroes interesting.
Shadowpact & Checkmate - In a medium where all anyone seems to want is Spider-man comics & X-crossovers, these are 2 superhero books that actually try to be different. I know that sounds scary & a lot of comic book fans simply can't get into a comic unless it has an A-list character with lots of movies & merchandise spun out of him, but these are comics with talented writers actually making lesser known superheroes interesting.
Thats funny you mention these to. The premise of Checkmate just sounded like something I wouldn't be into. Honestly, while Rucka is definitely a good writer, his voice has never been one that appealed to me. I'm not anti his work, I just never read a book of his that connected with me totally. But I've decided to give Checkmate a go because of the world of mouth. Same with Shadowpact (as Bryan Deemer of CGS hypes it to no end) and I really dig team books, so I'm almost sure I'll like this book.
Can I just say that after reading the first few issues of Booster Gold that I'm in love? Johns has done it again. I cannot bring myself to care about Green Lanterns (save for John Stewart from the cartoon or Kyle as a JLA'er in Morrison's run), but between JSA and Booster Gold alone this guy deserves a medal. 2 years ago I could not care less about every single character in both of these books. I didn't even know who Rip Hunter was. Now I'm really digging Booster (so much that I'm thinking about going back and reading the Bwahaha stuff) and the entire JSA are some of my favorite characters now. I wish he was in charge of forming the new JLA, but the man can only write so many books.
10-15-07 | 01:57 PM
#29
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Originally Posted by Superboy
The Batman Books: Creative energy, properly channeled, generates a great story; that's what editors are for, to manage that creativity to ensure that the artist doesn't get too big for his own britches. Which is what has happened here. Detective Comics is great but they feel like storylines that are much longer, crammed down to fit into single issues. They start and stop abruptly, with too many blank panels in the middle. Morrison's storytelling is a little too obscure for the mainstream, something that i've observed without err for many years. But if anything, these two have actually made the core Batman monthlies readable again.
But I think I prefer my Batman fix to come from Batman in titles other than his own. He's a lot like Wolverine in that way for me. I like seeing how Batman interacts with other characters. Thats why I really loved when Gotham had so much of the Bat-family still there as there was a lot of interaction month after month between Bats and a lot of friendly characters.
Just my personal tastes.
I really enjoyed that Morrison issue that had Batman fighting in front of pop-art. That was really cool. I also think that I would probably like his run better if I read it again from the beginning which I may do after a few more issues come out.
10-15-07 | 02:28 PM
#30
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this is a little off topic, but is the New Avengers worth picking up. I don't usually read too much of Marvel but I've gotton into Spidy and the whole World War Hulk storyline and have read a few good thing about the title.
10-15-07 | 02:57 PM
#31
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Everyone else will probably say no, but I love it. I think it's a really fun book and its finally shifted the focus at Marvel moving away from being Spidey and Mutant centric only.
Did you just plan to jump on with the issues or pick up the trades? You might be a little lost if you just start with the next issue.
Did you just plan to jump on with the issues or pick up the trades? You might be a little lost if you just start with the next issue.
10-15-07 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by boredsilly
Everyone else will probably say no, but I love it. I think it's a really fun book and its finally shifted the focus at Marvel moving away from being Spidey and Mutant centric only.
10-15-07 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by fujishig
As far as that Superman story concluding in the annuals... I agree, DC editorial on the superhero comics are messing up big time. They did the same thing with the initial Wonder Woman story, it's just amazing to me that it seems to have happened 3 times now. Explain to me again why collecting a title monthly is so great? Geez.
Speaking of screwing up Superman, what about Power Girl? She's being treated like a red headed stepchild. It's like they forget she's alos Kryptonian even after establishing this during "Crisis". This hole stupid "3rd Kryptonian" crap is a joke because we already knew there were 3 right? Supes, Supergirl andeven though she's from another Earth.... POWER GIRL. So why are they doing this silly storyline?
10-15-07 | 07:52 PM
#34
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Speaking of screwing up Superman, what about Power Girl? She's being treated like a red headed stepchild. It's like they forget she's alos Kryptonian even after establishing this during "Crisis". This hole stupid "3rd Kryptonian" crap is a joke because we already knew there were 3 right? Supes, Supergirl andeven though she's from another Earth.... POWER GIRL. So why are they doing this silly storyline?
10-15-07 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by fujishig
Haven't followed the Super-titles (besides what is probably the worst of the lot in Supergirl), but I do like how they portray her in JSA.
10-15-07 | 08:15 PM
#36
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Originally Posted by fujishig
As far as that Superman story concluding in the annuals... I agree, DC editorial on the superhero comics are messing up big time. They did the same thing with the initial Wonder Woman story, it's just amazing to me that it seems to have happened 3 times now. Explain to me again why collecting a title monthly is so great? Geez.
I go to read the final chapter of the 6-part arc in Superman Confidential and find a different story started!! A little note informs me that the conclusion will be "printed at a later date"!!!! GAHH!!! Will All-Star Superman, which is also a continued story be next? This is truly pissing me off. 
10-15-07 | 09:58 PM
#37
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Originally Posted by fujishig
I finished reading the X-men Supernovas HC, collecting the first Mike Carey and Chris Bachalo + other artists storyarc. I've been away from everything X-related besides collections of X-factor and Astonishing, so this was the testing ground to see if I should come back... I've always loved the X-men, I love big hardcovers with a lot of story, and hey, Aurora and Northstar are on the cover. I've also heard that this is much better than Brubaker's first Shiar arc in Uncanny.
First off, I love Bachalo's art, I thought he was perfect in his Vertigo Death series, and I liked his Gen X stuff. His Steampunk book was largely incomprehensible. This is a mix of both... at times, great stuff comes through, and at other times it's a strain to figure out what's going on. It doesn't help that they introduce a dozen new characters in the first arc.
So we have Rogue leading a group including Cannonball, Cable, Iceman, Mystique, Lady Mastermind, some Omega Sentinel, and I guess Sabretooth. Since for some reason the other X-men have to babysit the school, this is more like a strikeforce team to deal with threats... of course, with Cable and Cannonball here (but for some reason not interacting with each other as much as I thought they would) this brings to mind X-force with grownups (and a lot of villains). They deal with some new race of superior beings (could've sworn they had a similar arc about super mutants before), then some psychologist that used to be a good guy back in the day but has secretly been stealing mutant powers all this time, then some otherworldly menace. I read it all, and I can't really say I'm hooked.
Anyone reading this book monthly? I know the Marauder storyline is coming up, does it get any better? Are any of the other X-books any good?
I recently began anew with X-men, and I have been buying arcs and reading them, I was a little lost with supernovas and also not hooked, I have the more current storylines in the x-books as my next reads, so hopefully i will have an update on them this week or so.
I can recommend New X-men, I really enjoyed (as I wrote above) the most recent Quest for Magik arc and I plan to pick up some of the trades but i just havent yet.
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I left work early today because I'm lazy, I read a few more titles this afternoon.
New Avengers #35 - This issue stumped me, as this title has recently. Last issue ended with the New Avengers dropping in on symbiotes attacking, this issue has a symbiote Wolverine on the cover. The battle was only referenced for 1 panel i think, and the rest was "he Hood" recruiting and threatening tigra? I enjoy some of the things this title does, and the mix of the heroes but it is frustrating... I hope others are reading this title, maybe I missed something, I don't know...
New Warriors 1 - 5 - I put off reading this until I had 5 issues and I really enjoyed it. I like the idea that teams purpose is to piss of iron man. using x-mutants like Jubilee (who i enjoyed and wondered what happened too since my return to comics). I don't know what the prognosis for thsi book is, but i like it and will continue reading it for the time being.
10-16-07 | 01:01 AM
#38
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Originally Posted by boredsilly
Everyone else will probably say no, but I love it. I think it's a really fun book and its finally shifted the focus at Marvel moving away from being Spidey and Mutant centric only.
Did you just plan to jump on with the issues or pick up the trades? You might be a little lost if you just start with the next issue.
Did you just plan to jump on with the issues or pick up the trades? You might be a little lost if you just start with the next issue.
10-16-07 | 01:25 AM
#39
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Originally Posted by fujishig
But they did that by adding Spidey and Wolverine to the Avengers...
And really if they had to shift some "big guns" to the Avengers team to make them popular. JLA did it to great effect when Morrison started.
As to what trade you should try, I would say pick u Volume 1: Breakout. That way you'll be able to tell if the series is for you. The one thing I am concerned about is that the series isn't very self contained. It assumes you know a little something about the Marvel U, so you might be a little lost at points.
10-16-07 | 08:53 AM
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I just read this: Doctor 13: Architecture and Morality
And holy shit was it ever awesome! Maybe the most "fun" book I've read in the last 8 months? If you liked the meta-ness of Animal Man, or the insane balls to the walls crazyness of Nextwave, or you pine for the silver age, or you just like really fucking awesome comics. Please do yourself a favor and buy this book. It is incredible. How many of you talk around here, you'll love who the villains are.
I've always known Azzarello could write, but I had no idea he could write humor so well. And the art is just fantastic. Cliff Chiang is definitely on the list of artist I'll follow now (he's on Black Canary/Green Arrow now which is convenient).
I think a lot of people probably overlooked this since it was a backup story in Tales of the Unexpected.
And holy shit was it ever awesome! Maybe the most "fun" book I've read in the last 8 months? If you liked the meta-ness of Animal Man, or the insane balls to the walls crazyness of Nextwave, or you pine for the silver age, or you just like really fucking awesome comics. Please do yourself a favor and buy this book. It is incredible. How many of you talk around here, you'll love who the villains are.
I've always known Azzarello could write, but I had no idea he could write humor so well. And the art is just fantastic. Cliff Chiang is definitely on the list of artist I'll follow now (he's on Black Canary/Green Arrow now which is convenient).
I think a lot of people probably overlooked this since it was a backup story in Tales of the Unexpected.
10-16-07 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Superboy
Spidey hasn't been good since...I can't even remember. I wasn't even buying comics when Spidey was good.
"Spider-Man's Tangled Web" was inconsistent (Most character anthology titles are), but it also produced Peter Milligan's "Flowers for Rhino" and Ted McKeever's "Alphabet City". They're two of the best Spidey tales I've ever read, even though he's barely in them.
Robert Kirkman did a perfect Spidey in "Marvel Team-Up" but, again, he wasn't the star of the book.
My friend and I had a discussion about the current sorry state of the Spider-Man titles a few days ago. He feels that, at its heart, Spider-Man is a book about growing up. Now that Peter Parker is an adult, the book and character have no focus anymore.
While I can see where he's coming from, I think the biggest problem with the Spidey books is that they've lost all sense of fun. That's why I keep pimping Kirkman for the book. No one has made the character so much fun since the early days.
10-16-07 | 10:59 AM
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And since I haven't done any pimping for Matt Wagner in a few weeks, here's a preview of the upcoming Grendel miniseries.
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ogID=313610421
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ogID=313610421
10-16-07 | 11:56 AM
#43
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Originally Posted by Gamblor187
My friend and I had a discussion about the current sorry state of the Spider-Man titles a few days ago. He feels that, at its heart, Spider-Man is a book about growing up. Now that Peter Parker is an adult, the book and character have no focus anymore.
While I can see where he's coming from, I think the biggest problem with the Spidey books is that they've lost all sense of fun. That's why I keep pimping Kirkman for the book. No one has made the character so much fun since the early days.
I had such high hopes a few years ago when Dezago and Weiringo were on Sensational, as they were doing some goofy stories that should've been a lot of fun, but it somehow never hit the mark. Though it doesn't seem like there's much "fun" left in the Marvel Universe in the wake of Civil War, though I haven't read anything recently.
10-16-07 | 12:25 PM
#44
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Originally Posted by Gamblor187
It's odd that the best Spider-Man stories in recent years have featured the character in supporting roles.
"Spider-Man's Tangled Web" was inconsistent (Most character anthology titles are), but it also produced Peter Milligan's "Flowers for Rhino" and Ted McKeever's "Alphabet City". They're two of the best Spidey tales I've ever read, even though he's barely in them.
Robert Kirkman did a perfect Spidey in "Marvel Team-Up" but, again, he wasn't the star of the book.
"Spider-Man's Tangled Web" was inconsistent (Most character anthology titles are), but it also produced Peter Milligan's "Flowers for Rhino" and Ted McKeever's "Alphabet City". They're two of the best Spidey tales I've ever read, even though he's barely in them.
Robert Kirkman did a perfect Spidey in "Marvel Team-Up" but, again, he wasn't the star of the book.
Also, Tangled Web was awesome. I wish more books like that were out.
10-16-07 | 03:41 PM
#45
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Originally Posted by boredsilly
Yea, but the focus of that book isn't about them. The stars of that book, and Marvel really, are Captain America and Iron Man. The most important people rather. I see your point, but Wolverine and Spidey are the people I care about the very least in the Avengers titles (though they do get the best lines).
And really if they had to shift some "big guns" to the Avengers team to make them popular. JLA did it to great effect when Morrison started.
And really if they had to shift some "big guns" to the Avengers team to make them popular. JLA did it to great effect when Morrison started.
10-17-07 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by boredsilly
I just read this: Doctor 13: Architecture and Morality
And holy shit was it ever awesome! Maybe the most "fun" book I've read in the last 8 months? If you liked the meta-ness of Animal Man, or the insane balls to the walls crazyness of Nextwave, or you pine for the silver age, or you just like really fucking awesome comics. Please do yourself a favor and buy this book. It is incredible. How many of you talk around here, you'll love who the villains are.
I've always known Azzarello could write, but I had no idea he could write humor so well. And the art is just fantastic. Cliff Chiang is definitely on the list of artist I'll follow now (he's on Black Canary/Green Arrow now which is convenient).
I think a lot of people probably overlooked this since it was a backup story in Tales of the Unexpected.
And holy shit was it ever awesome! Maybe the most "fun" book I've read in the last 8 months? If you liked the meta-ness of Animal Man, or the insane balls to the walls crazyness of Nextwave, or you pine for the silver age, or you just like really fucking awesome comics. Please do yourself a favor and buy this book. It is incredible. How many of you talk around here, you'll love who the villains are.
I've always known Azzarello could write, but I had no idea he could write humor so well. And the art is just fantastic. Cliff Chiang is definitely on the list of artist I'll follow now (he's on Black Canary/Green Arrow now which is convenient).
I think a lot of people probably overlooked this since it was a backup story in Tales of the Unexpected.
I didn't.
I was reading "Tales" and enjoying it and the Doctor 13 backup story. Man, that story was insane. 
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10-17-07 | 10:56 AM
#47
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Originally Posted by Bronkster
They did it again!! I go to read the final chapter of the 6-part arc in Superman Confidential and find a different story started!! A little note informs me that the conclusion will be "printed at a later date"!!!! GAHH!!! Will All-Star Superman, which is also a continued story be next? This is truly pissing me off.
I go to read the final chapter of the 6-part arc in Superman Confidential and find a different story started!! A little note informs me that the conclusion will be "printed at a later date"!!!! GAHH!!! Will All-Star Superman, which is also a continued story be next? This is truly pissing me off. Really looking forward to getting Absolute Sandman V2 this week!
10-17-07 | 11:52 AM
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DC editorial has been pretty bad at keeping storylines intact on a monthly basis with their books this year, and it has made me drop a few of the titles, so they get what they deserve with their shoddy planning (or employing of flakey talent).
10-17-07 | 12:42 PM
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Really dug New Avengers TPB1 and Astonishing X-Men TPB 1. Second volumes didn't grab me as much. Should try again.
As far as X-books, I really struggled through the first Age of Apocalypse TPB.
As far as X-books, I really struggled through the first Age of Apocalypse TPB.
10-17-07 | 12:47 PM
#50
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Originally Posted by davidh777
Really dug New Avengers TPB1 and Astonishing X-Men TPB 1. Second volumes didn't grab me as much. Should try again.
As far as X-books, I really struggled through the first Age of Apocalypse TPB.
As far as X-books, I really struggled through the first Age of Apocalypse TPB.