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Re: Marvel Omnibuses you'd like to see
Originally Posted by ytrez
(Post 10779504)
When Byrne drew the cover it originally had Kirby standing in front of Stan, that waving arm isn't original (which is why it looks somewhat awkward). Jack was removed because of legal issues Marvel was having with him at the time. I think the published cover had a text balloon over that area. All these years later, I wish they could have restored it to give Kirby his due.
Originally Posted by MBoyd
(Post 10779648)
Yeah I have heard that story. Just looks awkwardly empty now. Wonder what Byrne will say on his forums?
Originally Posted by davidh777
(Post 10780026)
Originally Posted by Trevor
(Post 10780081)
^ I remember buying that issue.
Originally Posted by davidh777
(Post 10780109)
Me too. I actually had stopped reading FF till Byrne came in and I really liked the look of it. Ran across that floppy a couple years ago and read it again.
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Re: Marvel Omnibuses you'd like to see
I would very much like to see:
A Sienkiewicz Moon Knight Omnibus A Nocenti/JR JR Daredevil Omnibus X-Factor Omnibus New Mutants Omnibus |
Re: Marvel Omnibuses you'd like to see
Originally Posted by ytrez
(Post 10779504)
When Byrne drew the cover it originally had Kirby standing in front of Stan, that waving arm isn't original (which is why it looks somewhat awkward). Jack was removed because of legal issues Marvel was having with him at the time. I think the published cover had a text balloon over that area. All these years later, I wish they could have restored it to give Kirby his due.
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Re: Marvel Omnibuses you'd like to see
How about a What If? Omnibus...that I would love to see.
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Re: Marvel Omnibuses you'd like to see
Nick Fury Omnibus
They could probably get all of the early appearances (Kirby, etc.) AND all of the Steranko issues in one volume. I'd also like so see some collections devoted to Marvel westerns (Rawhide Kid, Kid Colt, Two-Gun Kid), but that ain't gonna happen. The two RK Masterworks are as close as we're ever likely to come. Better chance of seeing Sgt. Fury omnibuses, which would be really nice. |
Re: Marvel Omnibuses you'd like to see
Originally Posted by JasonF
(Post 11078615)
One wrinkle to the above: the decision to remove Kirby from that cover was done at Kirby's request. Given his dispute with Marvel, he didn't want to appear on the cover. In light of that fact, is it more respectful to restore the picture and give him his due or to respect his wishes? I don't know.
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We've known about it, but here is the official solicit today.
Secret Warriors Omnibus Hc Written By Brian Michael Bendis & Jonathan Hickman Penciled By Alex Maleev, Stefano Caselli, Alessandro Vitti, Gianluca Gugliotta, Mirko Colak, David Marquez & Ed Mcguinness Cover By Jim Cheung Former S.H.I.E.L.D. Director Nick Fury And His Newly Minted Team Of Secret Warriors Uncover A Conspiracy That Reaches From The Oval Office To Japan — And Even Beyond Death. When A Shadow War Breaks Out Between Leviathan And Hydra, It’s Up To Fury And His Warriors To Take Them Both Out. The Reconstituted Howling Commandos Join Fury’s Ranks, But Tragedy Waits In The Wings As The Conflict Blossoms Into An All-Out War On Three Fronts. As Hydra And Leviathan Ready For Their Final Strikes — On Each Other And The World — Fury Will Have To Make Some Of The Grittiest Life-And-Death Choices Of His Long Life! Collecting Mighty Avengers #13 And 18, Secret Warriors #1-28, Dark Reign: The List — Secret Warriors, Siege: Secret Warriors, And Material From Dark Reign: New Nation. 904 Pgs./Rated T+ …$99.99 |
Re: Marvel Omnibuses you'd like to see
I misread that as "Warriors Three Omnibus"
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I just wonder how long the omnibus/absolute wave will last. It's really an anomaly that we're eating up deluxe-priced physical media. At some point many of us will hit saturation, whether it's from storage space or just that we'll have bought all the titles we want to own. I know I've bought a number of them because the price was good, but haven't actually read that many.
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Re: Marvel Omnibuses you'd like to see
Originally Posted by davidh777
(Post 11098310)
I just wonder how long the omnibus/absolute wave will last. It's really an anomaly that we're eating up deluxe-priced physical media. At some point many of us will hit saturation, whether it's from storage space or just that we'll have bought all the titles we want to own. I know I've bought a number of them because the price was good, but haven't actually read that many.
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Yeah, one parallel would be the deluxe collector's edition video games, but I have no idea how well those sell. I know I don't buy them because I don't need the extra crap.
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I can see them publishing these forever. Even if floppies go away and everything moves to digital. The print runs are already so low. Of course in 2025 they will have a list price of $250.
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Originally Posted by MBoyd
(Post 11098648)
Of course in 2025 they will have a list price of $250.
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Space is definitely an issue (and the weight of some of these means they need to stay on or near the bottom shelves of my bookcase). I think content is the other one. Did we really need a Secret Wars II omnibus? An Avengers Crossing one? An X-men Fatal Attractions one (it may not officially be an omnibus but it retails for a hundred bucks)? I'm curious to see how many people actually bought these.
But as long as Marvel can make money off of this stuff, they'll do it. I'm sure the print runs are pretty low for these, and they can gauge demand well enough to not lose money. They do collect everything in trades or smaller HCs anyway, so reselling stuff they've already made money on in larger editions to the suckers who buy it, like us, makes sense. They basically just solicit as many collections as they can, then refuse to keep them in print, making them basically larger periodicals. I've heard complaints (I think from Brian Hibbs) that they basically will have something like volumes 1,3,4, and 6 of something available to re-order but not 2 and 5. I also wonder how many comic stores actually order these? Maybe for special orders, but they take up space, they're expensive, and Amazon basically cuts the profit margin razor thin anyway. I'll continue to collect the stories that I've either already started in omnibus form (Bru's Cap) or those that I know I enjoyed and want in hardcover form (Byrne's FF, runs like X-Statix, etc.). I'll skip over those that I have no interest in. I'll waver on those that fall in the middle. For instance, I like Secret Warriors but I don't think I need it in an omnibus format. For space reasons, I'm leaning towards digital purchases anyway. |
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Yeah, the "we'll have bought all the titles we want to own" in my original post was an unclear reference to the fact that a lot of these releases are stuff I've never heard of--maybe not bottom of the barrel but certainly not the top. Not that I'm an industry scholar, but I like a lot of stuff and have a visa card. A few I bought just from this forum and what we thought were pricing errors so I decided to lock it in and never felt the urge to recheck and cancel.
It makes sense that they do short print runs. Then they can rerelease it later and get another wave of sales in. My LCS has a number of them, but they've had the same stock for what seems like forever because they sell at list price. Just looking at the ones I have, I've only broken the shrink on one, JLA New Frontier, and I haven't finished it. The inconvenient size means I need certain situations to read. Looking back, I guess I really haven't picked up many of these. I'm sure I would enjoy the FF, Spider-Man, and X-Men volumes, but when I already have the content in Masterworks or other form, it's hard to justify the storage room and price tag. Marvel Cap Brubaker 1 Cap Brubaker 2 (on order) Thor Simonson Byrne FF 1 DC Hush New Frontier Sandman 1 New Teen Titans 1 |
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Ah, you're talking DC (and Absolutes) too. I'm actually much pickier about my Absolutes because they are generally more expensive and much harder to read, so it really has to be something that "deserves" the prestige on my bookshelf. Because of this, while I like Johns's run on Green Lantern, there's no way I'm springing for Absolute volumes. And their omnibus prices seem way too high... I have the first of Johns's Flash omnis, and that retailed for like 75 bucks for less than 450 pages... I'm not sure I'll pick up the second. In fact, I sorta regret getting the Hush Absolute, even for the deeply discounted price, mainly because I bought the 9.95 Kindle version just a few weeks before it shipped.
I'm in for: Bru Cap, whatever else they come out with Byrne FFs TMNT hardcovers Usagi Yojimbo HCs Hellboy Library Editions (despite the fur-magnet covers) Invincible Ultimate HCs Walking Dead HCs the new Savage Dragon HCs as ongoings. I would strongly consider a Peter David Hulk run (with McFarlane, Keown, and Frank). And whatever happened to the Groo collections? |
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Yeah, I'm lumping together hugely sized and hugely priced comic books :), and I admit I haven't studied closely the price/value differences between Marvel and DC. I did decide to not discuss the smaller stuff like the Kirby New Gods omniboo. And while I have picked up all the Invincible Ultimate HCs, I haven't gotten the huge ones.
Coincidentally, I just got notification today that my Geoff Johns Hawkman omni had shipped. I had pre-ordered it back in July at $29.92 including Gold Box discount, and when I was looking over some of my orders I saw this book was now listed at $75 so I didn't cancel it. :) And I kind of regret Hush as well. I was looking at a friend's copy a while back and was dazzled by the art, but it's never been my favorite story in the world. |
Re: Marvel Omnibuses you'd like to see
Personally, while I enjoy the collections of material readily available in other formats, I'd like to see things that haven't yet been collected come out.
In addition to the Sgt. Fury stuff (well, there are 3 published Masterworks) & Kid Colt, I'd like to see some of the following long-running series from DC: Blackhawk (the Quality comics, including Military/Modern) Sea Devils Tomahawk |
Re: Marvel Omnibuses you'd like to see
Maybe I missed this one in the Official Solicits? Or are Marvel Solicits skipping over a few things? We knew it was coming at any rate. Available for order on DCBS.
PUNISHER BY RICK REMENDER OMNIBUS HC Frank Castle has dedicated his life to killing evil men. So when former Green Goblin Norman Osborn becomes the head of U.S. security, what do you expect Frank to do? But when his assassination attempt fails, Osborn's flunky the Hood resurrects several long-dead super villains to hunt down the Punisher - and Daken, twisted son of Wolverine, finally manages to kill him. But even death won't keep Frank Castle down! When the Legion of Monsters stitch his remains back together, the Punisher is reborn as the terrifying Franken-Castle! Does any humanity remain beneath this husk of a man? And can Frank regain his life, with the vindictive Jigsaw Bothers waiting to kill him again? Collecting PUNISHER (2009) #1-16 and ANNUAL #1; DARK REIGN: THE LIST - PUNISHER, FRANKENCASTLE #17-21, DARK WOLVERINE #88-89, and PUNISHER: IN THE BLOOD #1-5. |
Re: Marvel Omnibuses you'd like to see
Originally Posted by davidh777
(Post 11099265)
Coincidentally, I just got notification today that my Geoff Johns Hawkman omni had shipped. I had pre-ordered it back in July at $29.92 including Gold Box discount, and when I was looking over some of my orders I saw this book was now listed at $75 so I didn't cancel it. :) |
Re: Marvel Omnibuses you'd like to see
Second chance offer. New cover it looks like. Who will go for it?
http://www.comicbookresources.com/im...Omnibus_HC.jpg NEW X-MEN OMNIBUS HC (NEW PRINTING) Written by GRANT MORRISON Penciled by FRANK QUITELY, ETHAN VAN SCIVER, LEINIL FRANCIS YU, IGOR KORDEY, JOHN PAUL LEON, PHIL JIMENEZ, KERON GRANT, CHRIS BACHALO & MARC SILVESTRI Cover by FRANK QUITELY Grant Morrison’s wildly innovative X-Men saga returns! The X-Men, re-imagined with a new look and a new mission, must face weird new threats including evil twins, organ harvesters, sentient bacteria, rebellious mutant youth, power-enhancing street drugs and living weapons! Joined by wicked telepath Emma Frost and mysterious powerhouse Xorn, the X-Men go public — expanding Xavier’s school to train a new generation of mutants including the insect-like Angel, the bird-boy Beak, the living sandstorm Dust and eerie telepathic quintuplets the Stepford Cuckoos. And as secondary mutations alter familiar mutants, the team is tested when Emma Frost sets her seductive sights on Cyclops, the all-consuming Phoenix threatens to rise again, and shocking traitors plot the destruction of everything the X-Men have accomplished! Featuring the Shi’ar Imperial Guard, the X-Corporation, Fantomex and more! Collecting NEW X-MEN (2001) #114-154 and ANNUAL 2001. 1120 PGS./Rated T+ …$125 ISBN: 978-0-7851-6505-7 Trim size: oversized |
Re: Marvel Omnibuses you'd like to see
Originally Posted by MBoyd
(Post 11135043)
Second chance offer. New cover it looks like. Who will go for it?
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Word of a 1200 page Marvel Zomnibus leaked today.
By next month we'll learn of a 1208 page Omnibus. |
Re: Marvel Omnibuses you'd like to see
Originally Posted by slop101
(Post 11135134)
More important than a new cover is that this one has a stitched binding rather than the old one's glued binding. That's pretty much a necessity for a book this size.
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http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg
I don't know why they don't use this image for the omnibus cover. It's really quite perfect. Group shot by Quitely, captures the themes of Morrison's run. I see the cover they used, and wonder who the asshole with a soul-patch between Xorn and Cyclops is. |
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