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exharrison 12-07-05 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by Todd B.
Yeah, but at the time, DC was saying that the change was going to be permanent. That this was Superman's new look from now on, and the old look was gone forever. Of course, they realized after a year or two that you can't screw with an iconic character like Superman like that, and made some lame plotline about his powers turning back to normal.

The same thing almost happened with this guy though:

<img src="http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/8/82/Webofspiderman118.jpg">

At the end of the Maximum Clonage thing, Peter Parker was supposed to die, and Ben Reilly was supposed to be the new Spider-Man forever. Fortunately, they Marvel got their heads out of their asses before they actually did it.

Then he qualifies, too:
http://image.milehighcomics.com/isto...00.2ND.PRT.gif
And he went through a permanent change:
http://image.milehighcomics.com/isto...68226990.8.gif

Chew 12-07-05 07:58 AM

The Spidey clone in "a dynamic new costume". Not quite the word I would use. :lol:

MBoyd 12-07-05 08:37 AM

http://www.livejournal.com/community...38.html#cutid1

Here's a few pages from The Other part 7 in Friendly issue 3. It shows further changes to Spidey.

boredsilly 12-07-05 09:34 AM

Thanks for the recaps guys. I think I'll continue to stay away from this storyline.

bishop2knight 12-07-05 09:41 AM

Hmm, I actually think it looks kinda cool.

MBoyd 12-07-05 09:42 AM

I just have to ask . . . JLA Cold Steel . . . WTF? Mega Morphs at Marvel had a (ridiculous) toyline at least.

http://www.dccomics.com/media/covers/4604_400x600.jpg

Rogue588 12-07-05 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by MBoyd
http://www.livejournal.com/community...38.html#cutid1

Here's a few pages from The Other part 7 in Friendly issue 3. It shows further changes to Spidey.

:whofart:

What. The. Fuck.

-ohbfrank-

fujishig 12-07-05 04:08 PM

Wait, wait, wait... is that aunt may thing true?

I still love 'Ringo, but man does this sound like a horrid storyline.

As long as we're talking spidey changes, let's not forget the six-armed spidey from back in the day, and the Death-of-Superman rip-off that resulted in four different new costumed characters taking over the four spiderman books (they also had their own book for a while, though I remember nothing about it other than ChrisCross was the artist). Also, Ben Reilly was supposed to be the real Peter Parker, though I could never keep up with that storyline. I mean, who thinks it's a good idea to resurrect a storyline from that long ago?

Bats has changed costumes a fair amount too, even beyond the Knightfall Azbats stuff. Even Azbats had two different costumes in his short lifespan. Does Bats still have the black one, or did it change yet again? Not to mention all of the different Spidey and Batman toy variations.

I guess they could keep Ultimate Spidey as the iconic character and radically change the regular MU one permanently, but somehow, I don't think so.

So who wants to tell me how Parker got this disease?

On the plus side, am I the only one excited about the upcoming Essential Marvel Handbook? Sure all that stuff is sorely outdated, but I still love those things. I wonder if the new Marvel Handbook stuff will be better than the overpriced glossy comic-book sized crap they're putting out now.

exharrison 12-07-05 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by fujishig
Wait, wait, wait... is that aunt may thing true?

I still love 'Ringo, but man does this sound like a horrid storyline.

As long as we're talking spidey changes, let's not forget the six-armed spidey from back in the day, and the Death-of-Superman rip-off that resulted in four different new costumed characters taking over the four spiderman books (they also had their own book for a while, though I remember nothing about it other than ChrisCross was the artist).

Slingers


Originally Posted by fujishig
Also, Ben Reilly was supposed to be the real Peter Parker, though I could never keep up with that storyline. I mean, who thinks it's a good idea to resurrect a storyline from that long ago?

Spoiler:

He was the real PP, but then it was revealed that he wasn't and Norman Osbourne was behind it all and PP took it back up as BR totally degenerated near instantly.

MBoyd 12-07-05 06:23 PM

I loved the Power Girl Infinite Crisis lead up in JSA Classified 1-4. Just saw that the original art has been put up on ebay with a portion going to charity. Cool stuff.

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmdelfini

Rogue588 12-07-05 06:37 PM

Read "the Other" part 8..

It ain't gettin' any better, kiddies..-ohbfrank-

The Valeyard 12-07-05 06:56 PM

I thumbed through Marvel Zombies and was pleasantly surprised by Kirkman's writing. Not really a big fan of his but I thought this first issue was well done. Will probably pick up the trade when it comes out.

I just realized I totally forgot to snag the Captain America/What If issue! Now I have to go back to the store.

Lotta good stuff today.

MBoyd 12-07-05 07:34 PM

Marvel Zombies has been getting much praise. And though I flipped through it too, I just can't get into the concept.

It's probably better than The Other rotfl

bishop2knight 12-08-05 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by Rogue588
Read "the Other" part 8..

It ain't gettin' any better, kiddies..-ohbfrank-

How did you do that?

I read part 7 last night, the first issue I've read of the Other, and I kinda liked it. I think I'm just not old school enough to bash some of these modifications to old characters. I'm interested in seeing what happens next. Sure, it'll be reconned in another 6 months anyway, but for now, I kinda like the possibilities.

Plus, Wieringo's art is really good. I've never really seen his stuff before, but now I might be on the look out for it.

Liquid Death 12-08-05 08:35 AM

You should check out his run on Fantastic Four with Mark Waid and Tellos.

fujishig 12-08-05 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by Liquid Death
You should check out his run on Fantastic Four with Mark Waid and Tellos.

and Waid and 'Ringo's earlier stuff on the Flash (maybe not as polished, but still great). Though I thought his earlier Spidey run was mainly forgettable, mostly due to the storylines. Looks like this time is following suit. (By the way, I have no problem with them changing the characters, but really, the whole spoilerized May thing seems out there... unless I just read that synopsis wrong...)

What's with 'Ringo getting to draw all these mauled Marvel heroes? Didn't Reed Richards get mauled in the Waid/R'ingo issues too?

Chew 12-08-05 02:15 PM


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bishop2knight 12-08-05 02:33 PM

Chew, Noooooooooooooooooooooo! That's bloody terrible. I hope you had some back up books to be reading in the interim.


What do all y'all think of Ellis redoing the New Universe line for Marvel. I loved the New Universe as a kid.

Rogue588 12-08-05 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by James W. Powell
I loved the New Universe as a kid.

Gotta agree with this. :up: Too bad I stop collecting Exiles a LONG time ago...

bishop2knight 12-08-05 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by Rogue588
Gotta agree with this. :up: Too bad I stop collecting Exiles a LONG time ago...

Is Exiles related to the New Universe? I had no idea.

MBoyd 12-08-05 04:44 PM

Exiles is visiting the New Universe right now. Issues 73-75 I think.

Not sure what I think about the Ellis re-imagining. Since Exiles is doing the real thing right now, and it there are these one shots coming out, I think they should just stick to that.

Chew 12-09-05 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by James W. Powell
Chew, Noooooooooooooooooooooo! That's bloody terrible. I hope you had some back up books to be reading in the interim.

:lol:

I think I'm OK. ;)

Giantrobo 12-09-05 07:19 AM

I can't remember if this has been discussed in past threads but are the minis, <b>Jonah Hex</b> and <b>Vigilante</b> going to become regular series? I'm buying them but I'm not going to read them until the last issues come out.

MBoyd 12-09-05 07:40 AM

I think Jonah Hex is a regular. The first issue was self contained and excellent. You should definitely read it. Vigilante did nothing for me.

ytrez 12-09-05 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by MBoyd
http://www.livejournal.com/community...38.html#cutid1

Here's a few pages from The Other part 7 in Friendly issue 3. It shows further changes to Spidey.

That looks awful (except for MJ in that shirt shirt!)

A little Infinite Crisis assistance:

I've ordered tpb's of the build up mini series and was wondering if there is an order to read them in. Days of Vengeance, OMAC, Rann/Thanagar War, Villain United (did I miss anything?). Thanks in advance.


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