A Dance With Dragons - July 12th
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Funny, I'm at the exact same spot. Chewing on my fingernails again to get home and read some more.
Have you read the Dunk and Egg novellas, in particular the last one? If so, you can figure out from the description who
If not, get thee to a bookstore and pick up Warriors I quickly! There are subtle references to that history all over the place in this book. I can't believe how much I've been able to pick up so far such as
Just from rereading the first 4 novels and the first 3 Dunk/Egg novellas over the past couple months.
Have you read the Dunk and Egg novellas, in particular the last one? If so, you can figure out from the description who
Spoiler:
If not, get thee to a bookstore and pick up Warriors I quickly! There are subtle references to that history all over the place in this book. I can't believe how much I've been able to pick up so far such as
Spoiler:
Just from rereading the first 4 novels and the first 3 Dunk/Egg novellas over the past couple months.
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My initial thought after the first couple hundred pages: it's the best book of the series. It's got all the wonderfully descriptive prose and grimness of the third book with the narrative drive of the first book. Also, the magical and fantasy elements have been beefed a bit, but treated with such dead seriousness and realism that it's seemless.
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Funny, I'm at the exact same spot. Chewing on my fingernails again to get home and read some more.
Have you read the Dunk and Egg novellas, in particular the last one? If so, you can figure out from the description who
If not, get thee to a bookstore and pick up Warriors I quickly! There are subtle references to that history all over the place in this book. I can't believe how much I've been able to pick up so far such as
Have you read the Dunk and Egg novellas, in particular the last one? If so, you can figure out from the description who
Spoiler:
If not, get thee to a bookstore and pick up Warriors I quickly! There are subtle references to that history all over the place in this book. I can't believe how much I've been able to pick up so far such as
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Agreed. Hoping George does something really really bad to her, just to punish her for annoying me. Everything else is SO good. Right now, I'm 63% in (Kindle edition) and have moved past the Feast timeline. I'm starting to get nervous because I can feel the tension building. This is close to the point where GRRM usually throws in lovely things like Red Weddings and main character beheadings.
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"He was not wrong."
Usually I love Martin's writing, except maybe the Danerys chapers. But those words, "He was not wrong," have appeared over and over through out the book in various forms. It's like Martin in particularly fond of that statement. Seems kind of sloppy for a writer of Martin's caliber. Kind of like starting every sentence in the same paragraph with the same word. Eventually, people are bound to notice.
Otherwise, love the book.
Usually I love Martin's writing, except maybe the Danerys chapers. But those words, "He was not wrong," have appeared over and over through out the book in various forms. It's like Martin in particularly fond of that statement. Seems kind of sloppy for a writer of Martin's caliber. Kind of like starting every sentence in the same paragraph with the same word. Eventually, people are bound to notice.
Otherwise, love the book.
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Oh, I know what the word means, but apparently GRRM just discovered it as well. It didn't show up once in the previous 4 novels, but I saw it in what seemed like every other page on ADWD.
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Finished it earlier tonight.
Still processing how I feel about it. Initial reaction is it wasn't as good as ASoS or AGoT, but better than AFoC. I guess I would put it on par with ACoK.
I thought he handled the characters that had smaller parts much better then he did the big 3.
My long thoughts (Specific major spoilers and speculation below)
Still processing how I feel about it. Initial reaction is it wasn't as good as ASoS or AGoT, but better than AFoC. I guess I would put it on par with ACoK.
I thought he handled the characters that had smaller parts much better then he did the big 3.
My long thoughts (Specific major spoilers and speculation below)
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Finished last night. Great read, again GRRM does a superb job. With that said, I was extremely disappointed in this book, and hate the thought of another 1-2 years (or more like another 4-6) for this and that for the last one to finish this story up.
Rockroi at westeros.org has an awesome critique/reveiw that sums up my thoughts and is much more eloquent than I could state it.
http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php...1#entry2592911
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Rockroi at westeros.org has an awesome critique/reveiw that sums up my thoughts and is much more eloquent than I could state it.
http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php...1#entry2592911
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Geez, you all read fast! 1100 pages in 8 days is nuts. I just broke page 200 last night.
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Finished last night. Great read, again GRRM does a superb job. With that said, I was extremely disappointed in this book, and hate the thought of another 1-2 years (or more like another 4-6) for this and that for the last one to finish this story up.
Rockroi at westeros.org has an awesome critique/reveiw that sums up my thoughts and is much more eloquent than I could state it.
http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php...1#entry2592911
Spoiler:
Rockroi at westeros.org has an awesome critique/reveiw that sums up my thoughts and is much more eloquent than I could state it.
http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php...1#entry2592911
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I look at AFFC and ADWD as bridge books. GRRM originally wanted this series as a trilogy, which bumped up to 4 books, which bumped up to 6 with a 5 year gap in between 2 trilogies. He scrapped the 5 year gap idea, so now we have AFFC and ADWD in between the two trilogies (I'm betting on 8 books total). All of the cyvasse pieces are now in place. My hope is that it doesn't take him 6 years to write the next book. He's said that with his tour, his new Dunk and Egg novella, the script for season 2 of the show, filming the show, and his editing projects, that he's taking the rest of the year off of ASoIaF and will begin again next year. I hope the break does him some good.
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I read at one of the signings that someone asked him what would happen if the show caught up to him and he said that wouldn't happen. I think not allowing the tv show to catch up puts a lot more pressure on him to get going then if it's just his publisher and fans bitching.
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http://shelf-life.ew.com/2011/07/21/...cking-twist-g/
New interview with GRRM talking about the events in the book, needless to say if you haven't finished the book you shouldn't read it as there is are major spoilers.
He doesn't really say anything new, but his comments point to what has been speculated is true in regards to
New interview with GRRM talking about the events in the book, needless to say if you haven't finished the book you shouldn't read it as there is are major spoilers.
He doesn't really say anything new, but his comments point to what has been speculated is true in regards to
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I am in the minority but I hated this book. Honestly after 4 years for Feast and 5 years for Dance...that's 9 years for 2 half books that together are too long and filled with too much fluff. I wish he had stuck with his original 5 year gap in the books plan. I understand why he did what he did without it...but IMO it ruined Feast and Dance.
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I'm wording my way through Feast now, and am enjoying it so far. I bought it when it first came out, and tried to read it after not having read the other 3 for 4+ years, and felt fairly lost so I never got very far in it.
Looking forward to reading Dance, and back to the characters I like, though seeing some of the reviews at Amazon is kind of disappointing.
It's hard not to click on the spoilers!!
Looking forward to reading Dance, and back to the characters I like, though seeing some of the reviews at Amazon is kind of disappointing.
It's hard not to click on the spoilers!!
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Wait, do we know
or is that just a offshoot of the fucked up time line between the two books?
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"He was not wrong."
Usually I love Martin's writing, except maybe the Danerys chapers. But those words, "He was not wrong," have appeared over and over through out the book in various forms. It's like Martin in particularly fond of that statement. Seems kind of sloppy for a writer of Martin's caliber. Kind of like starting every sentence in the same paragraph with the same word. Eventually, people are bound to notice.
Otherwise, love the book.
Usually I love Martin's writing, except maybe the Danerys chapers. But those words, "He was not wrong," have appeared over and over through out the book in various forms. It's like Martin in particularly fond of that statement. Seems kind of sloppy for a writer of Martin's caliber. Kind of like starting every sentence in the same paragraph with the same word. Eventually, people are bound to notice.
Otherwise, love the book.
Yeah, I felt the same way. Gaol and Gaoler as well. Yes, there is nothing wrong with those words, but he really fell in love with them.
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Just finished it up today. I mostly liked it, but when I got to the last 100 pages or so, I started to feel let down. This is probably due to it being a "bridge book" like Kirstens said (which, after the delay, is a bit of a let down).
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Stannis was ok with it so his absence at the time was the key
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The Reek chapters could have been written by Steven king