Book Talk A Place To Discuss Books and Audiobooks

Hard Case Crime, Part 4

Old 08-09-10, 05:08 PM
  #126  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
dgmayor's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Holly Springs, NC
Posts: 2,033
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

Well crap. I guess that explains why I never got the newest book after just joining the book club. I hope I get my two dollars back! lol As far as finding existing titles, I know around here my options are the typical Barnes & Noble and Borders. I'm lucky if I can find the most current there. Back in May or June I found two from Westlake (Memory and Somebody owes me money) and that were the ONLY HCC books they had in stock.
dgmayor is offline  
Old 08-10-10, 12:14 PM
  #127  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Meglos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 5,408
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

Poop.
Meglos is offline  
Old 08-11-10, 11:29 AM
  #128  
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Montgomery, Alabama
Posts: 210
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

I too hope Hard Case is able to continue publishing. I need to pick up the few books I don't have.

Semi-related... is anyone watching Haven on SyFy? (It's very loosely based on King's Colorado Kid and is executive produced by Charles Ardai).
wmermine is offline  
Old 08-11-10, 12:06 PM
  #129  
Moderator
 
Geofferson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: The Village Green
Posts: 39,024
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

^ Yeah, I've been watching. Still waiting for it to get good (mediocre thus far, imo). Ardai is credited as a Creative Consultant on the show, I believe.
Geofferson is offline  
Old 08-11-10, 12:17 PM
  #130  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
xmiyux's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: WV
Posts: 9,910
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

Originally Posted by Geofferson View Post
^ Yeah, I've been watching. Still waiting for it to get good (mediocre thus far, imo). Ardai is credited as a Creative Consultant on the show, I believe.
I thought the book was mediocre at best.
xmiyux is offline  
Old 08-11-10, 07:01 PM
  #131  
Moderator
 
Geofferson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: The Village Green
Posts: 39,024
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

Great news guys. HCC looks to have struck an interesting deal with Subterranean Press. Details at the link.

http://subterraneanpress.com/index.p...rranean-press/

Last edited by Geofferson; 08-11-10 at 07:08 PM.
Geofferson is offline  
Old 08-11-10, 08:21 PM
  #132  
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Montgomery, Alabama
Posts: 210
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

Originally Posted by Geofferson View Post
^ Yeah, I've been watching. Still waiting for it to get good (mediocre thus far, imo). Ardai is credited as a Creative Consultant on the show, I believe.
You are correct about Ardai's role - sorry I misspoke.

You're also correct about the show's mediocrity, although I think it is getting continually better. So I have hope!
wmermine is offline  
Old 08-12-10, 06:45 AM
  #133  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
dgmayor's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Holly Springs, NC
Posts: 2,033
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

Originally Posted by Geofferson View Post
Great news guys. HCC looks to have struck an interesting deal with Subterranean Press. Details at the link.

http://subterraneanpress.com/index.p...rranean-press/
"We’re pleased to announce that we’ve just reached agreement to publish an exclusive Hard Case Crime volume, which will also be the first in the series to debut in hardcover."

Bleh. Just give me my cheap paperbacks!
dgmayor is offline  
Old 08-14-10, 01:20 PM
  #134  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 7,396
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

I work for Cowley Distributors. Dorchester will stop accepting returns/credits on Nov. 1st for unsold books. I was informed today to remove all Hard Case Crime books from my stores and return them. Get them while you can.
rw2516 is offline  
Old 08-17-10, 07:02 PM
  #135  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
dgmayor's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Holly Springs, NC
Posts: 2,033
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

So I contacted Dorchester today about signing up for the book club, being charged the two dollars and not hearing or seeing anything. Made a reference to rw2516's comment just as a fishing expedition

Got this in response:

Originally Posted by Dorchester Pub CS
Dave,

We are currently in a period of transition so some things are still unsettled. We can tell you that when you joined, the August title had already been processed and so you are in line to receive the next mailing in the club which would be an October title in late September as that club has been every other month since 2010 began. We are unable to tell you what that October title will be although it will be in the same genre - noire crime mystery - and will be in mass market paperback format. As we move toward e-books, we are switching warehouses for our backlist titles and so no new orders are being fulfilled until that change has taken place. In the meantime we can send you out one of the Hard Case Crime titles listed below so you have something to show for your $2.00. Please let us know which title you choose as your free book.

NOBODY'S ANGEL by Jack Clark
KILL NOW, PAY LATER by Robert Terrall
LEMONS NEVER LIE by Richard Stark

As for the other comments that you read on the blog, it sounds like those were intended for book stores. We really can't comment on that as we are customer service for individual customers. As far as we know at this point, we will continue to take orders for backlist titles once the transition to a new warehouse is complete.

Let us know which book we can send out to you from our office. We apologize for any confusion. We should be able to more completely answer your questions in the next couple of weeks. Thank you for your patience.
I wrote back and thanked them for contacting me, picked a book, and they wrote back again saying they'd send me a second one for free as well. So apparently I'm getting two HCC books. I guess they have a handful of HCC books in the office, but obviously not all.
dgmayor is offline  
Old 08-18-10, 07:44 AM
  #136  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 7,396
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

My comment only concerns retail stores. We pull unsold books and return them to publisher for credit. Don't know how long the credit process takes but the higher ups want to return them now. Dorchester also publishes westerns. One came in yesterday and I just sent it back for credit, not putting it out.
rw2516 is offline  
Old 08-18-10, 12:12 PM
  #137  
Moderator
 
Geofferson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: The Village Green
Posts: 39,024
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

Assuming this puts an end to Ardai's sister project (Gabriel Hunt). Unfortunate news all around.
Geofferson is offline  
Old 08-18-10, 12:13 PM
  #138  
DVD Talk Reviewer Emeritus
Thread Starter
 
FunkDaddy J's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Fort Collins, CO
Posts: 3,197
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

Originally Posted by Geofferson View Post
Assuming this puts an end to Ardai's sister project (Gabriel Hunt). Unfortunate news all around.
Hadn't even thought of that! Damn!
FunkDaddy J is offline  
Old 08-19-10, 07:35 PM
  #139  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
dgmayor's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Holly Springs, NC
Posts: 2,033
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

Originally Posted by rw2516 View Post
My comment only concerns retail stores. We pull unsold books and return them to publisher for credit. Don't know how long the credit process takes but the higher ups want to return them now. Dorchester also publishes westerns. One came in yesterday and I just sent it back for credit, not putting it out.
I understand that, but if the books are no longer in retail stores, that concerns us as customers as well.
dgmayor is offline  
Old 08-20-10, 07:53 AM
  #140  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 7,396
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

Originally Posted by dgmayor View Post
I understand that, but if the books are no longer in retail stores, that concerns us as customers as well.
That's why I say get them now. Go to the stores and grab what you can find before they get sent back.
rw2516 is offline  
Old 08-20-10, 09:43 PM
  #141  
Moderator
 
Geofferson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: The Village Green
Posts: 39,024
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

Things are looking good for HCC. Recent Tweet from Ardai:

Charles Ardai (CharlesArdai):
Still out filming but want to confirm: Dorchester's woes do NOT mean the end of #HardCaseCrime. In talks w/ 8 interested publishers.
Geofferson is offline  
Old 08-21-10, 10:17 AM
  #142  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
DJLinus's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 8,614
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

That's great, but I wonder if the future's only bright for future books or if that includes reprinting the back catalog. I still have about 40 HCC books to buy and I am freaking out a bit regarding rw2516's news, especially since I don't really have the funds right now to buy all of those right away.
DJLinus is offline  
Old 08-21-10, 10:45 AM
  #143  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
dgmayor's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Holly Springs, NC
Posts: 2,033
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

Originally Posted by DJLinus View Post
That's great, but I wonder if the future's only bright for future books or if that includes reprinting the back catalog. I still have about 40 HCC books to buy and I am freaking out a bit regarding rw2516's news, especially since I don't really have the funds right now to buy all of those right away.
Exactly my issue. I lucked out last week and found about 6 or so in various used book stores in my area. Not my first choice, but if it's the only way to get them. I prefer new, unmarked, unbent up books, but I'll take what I can get, and they weren't too bad.
dgmayor is offline  
Old 08-21-10, 12:55 PM
  #144  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 7,396
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

Originally Posted by DJLinus View Post
That's great, but I wonder if the future's only bright for future books or if that includes reprinting the back catalog. I still have about 40 HCC books to buy and I am freaking out a bit regarding rw2516's news, especially since I don't really have the funds right now to buy all of those right away.
Probably be able to find these forever on Amazon. Don't know about books, but I've seen OOP cds stay listed on Amazon still they sell out. CDs I know are no longer available will even have the "more on the way" statement until the last one is sold, then changes to "no longer available. Amazon may not return books for credit. Large book stores like Barnes & Noble may not return them either. That's why you can find practically entire catalog of a lot of authors at large stores. Other retail stores that carry books(grocery, drug, discount stores) constantly pull titles to make way for new stuff, completely changing out the shelves every month or so. I've found first version of bestselling paperbacks with cover that dupes the HC in large bookstores long after the book has been reissued with the generic author cover.
rw2516 is offline  
Old 09-29-10, 03:40 PM
  #145  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
dgmayor's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Holly Springs, NC
Posts: 2,033
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

I went into a local used bookstore yesterday on a whim and walked out with 24 HCC books that were in mint condition. Someone had just turned in their collection apparently, since last time I was there a few weeks ago they had zero. I'm down to missing about 15-20 books.
dgmayor is offline  
Old 09-29-10, 05:45 PM
  #146  
Moderator
 
Geofferson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: The Village Green
Posts: 39,024
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

I love used bookstore visits like that -- nice take!
Geofferson is offline  
Old 09-29-10, 06:27 PM
  #147  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
DJLinus's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 8,614
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

Originally Posted by rw2516 View Post
Probably be able to find these forever on Amazon. Don't know about books, but I've seen OOP cds stay listed on Amazon still they sell out. CDs I know are no longer available will even have the "more on the way" statement until the last one is sold, then changes to "no longer available. Amazon may not return books for credit. Large book stores like Barnes & Noble may not return them either. That's why you can find practically entire catalog of a lot of authors at large stores.
I hope so, but I dunno. It seems more and more of Amazon's HCC titles are either out of stock (without the option to purchase directly from them) or shipping in "1 to 3 weeks". I guess there's always their Marketplace. *sigh*

Originally Posted by dgmayor View Post
I went into a local used bookstore yesterday on a whim and walked out with 24 HCC books that were in mint condition. Someone had just turned in their collection apparently, since last time I was there a few weeks ago they had zero. I'm down to missing about 15-20 books.
Awesome find. One of things I miss most about living in Columbus is the abundance of used book stores there. Richmond's got crap in that department.
DJLinus is offline  
Old 10-20-10, 06:19 PM
  #148  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
dgmayor's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Holly Springs, NC
Posts: 2,033
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

Originally Posted by Charles Ardai
The news is out: #HardCaseCrime to return in 2011 in collab. with the amazing Titan Publishing -- http://titanbooks.com/.
dgmayor is offline  
Old 10-20-10, 06:26 PM
  #149  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
DJLinus's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 8,614
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

Excellent! A little more info I found:

Hard Case Crime to Relaunch with Titan Publishing
By Jason Boog on October 20, 2010 3:53 PM

Hard Case Crime has cut a new deal with the U.K.-based Titan Publishing; the hardboiled crime and thriller imprint will relaunch in 2011.

Titan specializes in glossy TV companion books and cinema reference titles. They have published guides to Lost, 24, Firefly, Battlestar Galactica, Smallville, and many other television shows. They also published reference books like The Alfred Hitchcock Story and The Winston Effect: The Art & History of the Stan Winston Studio. Read more about Hard Case founder Charles Ardai at this link.

Shots eZine has the scoop: “Hard Case Crime will relaunch in September/October 2011 with four new books, including CHOKE HOLD by Christa Faust (sequel to her Edgar Award-nominated MONEY SHOT), QUARRY’S EX by Max Allan Collins (the latest in the popular series of hit man novels by the author of “Road to Perdition”), and two never-before-published novels by MWA Grand Masters (names to be announced shortly). Additionally, Titan Publishing plans to acquire all existing stock of Hard Case Crime’s backlist from Dorchester Publishing and to resume shipping these titles to booksellers immediately.” (Via Sarah Weinman)

Hard Case will leave Dorchester Publishing (a company that recently adopted an eBook first model), just as reports of more troubles have surfaced at the company.

http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat...lishing_b14592
That was my greatest concern. Guess I don't need to go hunting for all of those old books and spend money I don't have right away after all. *whew!*

EDIT: Oh, wait a sec. That doesn't mean they'll be republishing the back catalog. Hmmmm.
DJLinus is offline  
Old 10-20-10, 07:06 PM
  #150  
DVD Talk Reviewer Emeritus
Thread Starter
 
FunkDaddy J's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Fort Collins, CO
Posts: 3,197
Re: Hard Case Crime, Part 4

Wonderful news! Kind of an oddball publisher to take this on. I'm curious what, if anything, will change--type of paper, cover stock, book size, design ... This will be an interesting development ...
FunkDaddy J is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.