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Old 07-07-09, 03:14 PM
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Re: Book Talk (Reverse) Sheep The Rise and Fall of the Sheep Empire

I'm in! I also feel weirdly good about my answers, which has to be some kind of terrible sign of how I'm going to do.

The good news is, since this is Book Talk, I'm probably the only one playing.
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I'm in!
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Re: Book Talk (Reverse) Sheep The Rise and Fall of the Sheep Empire

And for the questions that are not directly about books, I mention the word "book" (or something similar) somewhere.
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I'm in.
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Re: Book Talk (Reverse) Sheep The Rise and Fall of the Sheep Empire

Okay, I'm in. I have a degree in English, so I hope I am not in last place.
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Re: Book Talk (Reverse) Sheep The Rise and Fall of the Sheep Empire

Originally Posted by The Bus
Let's say there's six players, with their scores as such:
Googlemj23 : -40
PapaRobot : -28
The Gus : -20
orangefanta18 : -10
freensty : 8
FasonJ : 32

The question was "Name an American car maker" and everyone but FasonJ answered "Ford". (He answered "Chrysler"). The "Ford" answer would count as -5 points to orangefanta18 and freensty, and as +5 points to Googlemj3, PapaRobot and The Gus. FasonJ gets 0 points and remains in last.
Boo! FasonJ is an awesome player and would never be in last place.

I'm not sure I understand how this is an "equalizer," since FasonJ didn't get at all equalized. I'm sure it's way more work for you, but to make it a true eqaulizer, you need to count it as the better of the options for the Bottom 50% and the worse of the options for the Top 50%.

So to slightly modify your example, if Googlemj23 had gone with GM, you would count that as a Sheep and score zero since he's in the Top 50%, but count FasonJ's unique as a Reverse Sheep since that would be the better option for him. For the four "Ford" answers, the two Top 50% players who gave it would get +4 and the two Bottom 50% players would get -4.

Like I said, more work for you, so it's up to you how you want to score that.
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I didn't understand E so I just answered it not really strategically.
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Re: Book Talk (Reverse) Sheep The Rise and Fall of the Sheep Empire

Originally Posted by Groucho
Okay, I'm in. I have a degree in English, so I hope I am not in last place.
If you have a degree in English, you've already demonstrated yourself to be a loser.
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Re: Book Talk (Reverse) Sheep The Rise and Fall of the Sheep Empire

I'm in and will be shooting for the middle of the pack once again.
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Re: Book Talk (Reverse) Sheep The Rise and Fall of the Sheep Empire

For the Stephen King question, does it have to be a self contained book, or can it include novellas or short stories as well?
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Re: Book Talk (Reverse) Sheep The Rise and Fall of the Sheep Empire

Originally Posted by The Bus
You'll note I don't have a start date for this one. I will start the game once I have an appropriate amount of entries (20-35).
I know I'm short of time these next ten days but a quick scan through the questions indicates I'd not be short of answers!

With luck it'll take a fortnight before all of the habitual Book Talk browsers have seen this and so I'll be able to dive in before the 20-35 number of entrants has been reached.

PS) It'll take me a time before I can fully comprehend the rules!
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Re: Book Talk (Reverse) Sheep The Rise and Fall of the Sheep Empire

Originally Posted by movieking
For the Stephen King question, does it have to be a self contained book, or can it include novellas or short stories as well?
I'm guessing the use of the word 'book' as opposed to 'story' was deliberate. The Bus has been running quite a few of these and seems to be intentionally precise with his language.
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Re: Book Talk (Reverse) Sheep The Rise and Fall of the Sheep Empire

Originally Posted by JasonF
Boo! FasonJ is an awesome player and would never be in last place.

I'm not sure I understand how this is an "equalizer," since FasonJ didn't get at all equalized. I'm sure it's way more work for you, but to make it a true eqaulizer, you need to count it as the better of the options for the Bottom 50% and the worse of the options for the Top 50%.

So to slightly modify your example, if Googlemj23 had gone with GM, you would count that as a Sheep and score zero since he's in the Top 50%, but count FasonJ's unique as a Reverse Sheep since that would be the better option for him. For the four "Ford" answers, the two Top 50% players who gave it would get +4 and the two Bottom 50% players would get -4.

Like I said, more work for you, so it's up to you how you want to score that.
That is how I would score it, with the exception that there is no unique answer bonus this time around, so as not to scare the bibliophiles here. But if there was a combination of Unique Answer + Equalizer Round, you'd be correct.
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The possible problem is that there have been King stories that have been apart of a book with a collection of stories that have also been released as standalone books as well, especially after the release of movies.
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Re: Book Talk (Reverse) Sheep The Rise and Fall of the Sheep Empire

This looks like fun, though I admit I don't really get the strategy for the equalizers...
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Re: Book Talk (Reverse) Sheep The Rise and Fall of the Sheep Empire

Originally Posted by The Bus
That is how I would score it, with the exception that there is no unique answer bonus this time around, so as not to scare the bibliophiles here. But if there was a combination of Unique Answer + Equalizer Round, you'd be correct.
I just figured that if you think your answers are strong you should answer the Equalizer questions as Reverse Sheep and if you think your answers are not strong you should answer it as Sheep.
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Originally Posted by movieking
The possible problem is that there have been King stories that have been apart of a book with a collection of stories that have also been released as standalone books as well, especially after the release of movies.
If a work's been released as a standalone book and part of a larger collection, I think you'd fall within the realm of the question. Just be ready to post a link proving it was released as a standalone book for when the mob challenges your answer.
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Re: Book Talk (Reverse) Sheep The Rise and Fall of the Sheep Empire

Originally Posted by hardcore
This looks like fun, though I admit I don't really get the strategy for the equalizers...
I don't know if there is one. There's one question I had done that was either R or S depending on the final stock price of a company (after the deadline for entry submission).

I don't know if those questions will be fun or just too complicated. We'll see.
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Re: Book Talk (Reverse) Sheep The Rise and Fall of the Sheep Empire

Originally Posted by The Bus
Let's get a few more people in here:

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/book-talk/5...ep-empire.html
Bus, I will send you a PM tonight -- I need to finish some answers.
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I just sent mine in. I know I didn't do well, because I'm one of those kids that slipped through the system and never learned how to read.
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Re: Book Talk (Reverse) Sheep The Rise and Fall of the Sheep Empire

Originally Posted by maxfisher
If a work's been released as a standalone book and part of a larger collection, I think you'd fall within the realm of the question. Just be ready to post a link proving it was released as a standalone book for when the mob challenges your answer.
Crap, I may be in trouble with this one.
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Re: Book Talk (Reverse) Sheep The Rise and Fall of the Sheep Empire

I found this post today.
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The equalizer questions really screw over people in the top 30-49% or so. You aren't close enough to compete for the top, but you aren't bad enough to get sheep scoring, so you are probably going to get passed by a bunch of people, especially with the first E question only having four answers. The only positive for those people is that there are two in a row, so they might get a little bit back quickly depending on how far they dropped.

I'm not sure why you'd want to level out the scoring. Why should the people who did well on the first 11 questions be punished?
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I'm in, if I can get the flippin' PM sent!

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