The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy by Vincent Bugliosi May 29, 2007
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The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy by Vincent Bugliosi May 29, 2007
Reclaiming History: The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy
Vincent Bugliosi May 29, 2007
Book Description
The book that lays all questions to rest.
Polls reveal that over 75 percent of Americans believe there was a conspiracy behind Lee Harvey Oswald; some even believe Oswald was entirely innocent. In this absorbing and historic book—the first ever to cover the entire case—Vincent Bugliosi shows how we have come to believe such lies about an event that changed the course of history.
The brilliant prosecutor of Charles Manson and the man who forged an iron-clad case of circumstantial guilt around O. J. Simpson in his best-selling Outrage, Bugliosi is perhaps the only man in America capable of "prosecuting" Oswald for the murder of President Kennedy. His book is a narrative compendium of fact, forensic evidence, reexamination of key witnesses, and common sense. Every detail and nuance is accounted for, every conspiracy theory revealed as a fraud upon the American public. Bugliosi's irresistible logic, command of the evidence, and ability to draw startling inferences shed fresh light on this American nightmare. At last we know what really happened. At last it all makes sense. 32 pages of illustrations.
About the Author
Vincent Bugliosi, prosecutor of Charles Manson and author of Helter Skelter, Outrage, and other #1 best-selling books, lives in Los Angeles.
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I was watching JFK today when I remembered reading about Vinent Bugliosi writing about the Kennedy assasination many years ago. So I look it up on amazon to see that it is finally coming out this year.
Hardcover: 1632 pages
Hopefully I'll find time this year to getting around to reading it.
http://www.amazon.com/Reclaiming-History-Assassination-President-Kennedy/dp/0393045250/sr=8-1/qid=1171825938/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-0712444-0559025?ie=UTF8&s=books
Vincent Bugliosi May 29, 2007
Book Description
The book that lays all questions to rest.
Polls reveal that over 75 percent of Americans believe there was a conspiracy behind Lee Harvey Oswald; some even believe Oswald was entirely innocent. In this absorbing and historic book—the first ever to cover the entire case—Vincent Bugliosi shows how we have come to believe such lies about an event that changed the course of history.
The brilliant prosecutor of Charles Manson and the man who forged an iron-clad case of circumstantial guilt around O. J. Simpson in his best-selling Outrage, Bugliosi is perhaps the only man in America capable of "prosecuting" Oswald for the murder of President Kennedy. His book is a narrative compendium of fact, forensic evidence, reexamination of key witnesses, and common sense. Every detail and nuance is accounted for, every conspiracy theory revealed as a fraud upon the American public. Bugliosi's irresistible logic, command of the evidence, and ability to draw startling inferences shed fresh light on this American nightmare. At last we know what really happened. At last it all makes sense. 32 pages of illustrations.
About the Author
Vincent Bugliosi, prosecutor of Charles Manson and author of Helter Skelter, Outrage, and other #1 best-selling books, lives in Los Angeles.
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I was watching JFK today when I remembered reading about Vinent Bugliosi writing about the Kennedy assasination many years ago. So I look it up on amazon to see that it is finally coming out this year.
Hardcover: 1632 pages
Hopefully I'll find time this year to getting around to reading it.
http://www.amazon.com/Reclaiming-History-Assassination-President-Kennedy/dp/0393045250/sr=8-1/qid=1171825938/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-0712444-0559025?ie=UTF8&s=books
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02-18-07, 09:02 AM
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I have been waiting for this book for years while it has been postponed time and time again. I'm sure it's worth the wait as Bugliosi will have honed it to as near perfection as possible. I don't care about the price, I'm getting it as soon as it hits the street.
I just hope I have time to finish this massive tome before HP7 comes out.
Now if Dale Myers would finally finish his work on what should be the definitive computer animation DVD reconstruction of the assassination, all would be right in the JFK world.
I just hope I have time to finish this massive tome before HP7 comes out.
Now if Dale Myers would finally finish his work on what should be the definitive computer animation DVD reconstruction of the assassination, all would be right in the JFK world.
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02-18-07, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeShaynePI
Heh, the thread title seems to indicate Vincent Bugliosi killed JFK.
02-20-07, 10:05 AM
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Holy crap, I just got a look at the list price for the book: $49.95! I expected about $35 due to the length, but that seems a bit excessive. Is it a coffee-table book or something to be that price?
02-20-07, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by PalmerJoss
Holy crap, I just got a look at the list price for the book: $49.95! I expected about $35 due to the length, but that seems a bit excessive. Is it a coffee-table book or something to be that price?
02-20-07, 05:16 PM
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Just saw this on amazon.ca for $25.85CAD! Great deal. Unfortunately, it's kind of killed in the U.S. by $9.98CAD shipping (so it comes out to about $30.64USD and I hope to do better). But those of you in Canada just need to spend $13.13 more for free shipping.
It could be a price mistake. I'd suggest that Canadians jump on it but, as we know, with Amazon mistakes YMMV.
It could be a price mistake. I'd suggest that Canadians jump on it but, as we know, with Amazon mistakes YMMV.
02-20-07, 08:16 PM
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I'm skeptical about whether or not this will make the List. I just don't think there's that much interest in the topic left these days. And the chances of there being any kind of bombshell revelations in it are so slim. I mean, really, could there possibly be any gold left to mine in that field? I strongly doubt it.
02-20-07, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by djmont
I'm skeptical about whether or not this will make the List. I just don't think there's that much interest in the topic left these days. And the chances of there being any kind of bombshell revelations in it are so slim. I mean, really, could there possibly be any gold left to mine in that field? I strongly doubt it.
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02-21-07, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by djmont
Now there's a book that was crying out not to be written.
1600+ pages of detailed information about how there wasn't a Machiavellian conspiracy responsible for the assassination of JFK? Sounds like it's appealing to a pretty small audience of the hardcore conspiracy deniers. And I'll call it right now that there will be nothing in it that changes a single conspiracy proponent's mind.
I actually find myself more interested in conspracy theory as a general concept; how the conspiracy theories one believes in or disbelieves in tend to reinforce one's own value system.
Whether or not LHO was a lone gunman or a cog in a larger conspiracy will never be definitively proven or disproven. People will believe whatever they want to. (The problem with disproving conspiracy theories -- good ones, anyway -- is that they're difficult to disprove.)
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02-21-07, 09:32 AM
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You can't disprove a conspiracy, because it's based on faith, not reason. The very lack of evidence simply becomes further "proof" of the conspiracy. Thus, the true believers always have reason to go on. It's really quite ingenious, and thus makes fertile ground for hucksters and con artists.
02-21-07, 10:52 AM
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Agreed there.
1600+ pages of detailed information about how there wasn't a Machiavellian conspiracy responsible for the assassination of JFK? Sounds like it's appealing to a pretty small audience of the hardcore conspiracy deniers.
1600+ pages of detailed information about how there wasn't a Machiavellian conspiracy responsible for the assassination of JFK? Sounds like it's appealing to a pretty small audience of the hardcore conspiracy deniers.
Second I suppose 1600 more pages on why there was a conspiracy would be fine. Since I have no doubt that pages written in books in favor of a conspiracy would outnumber those that argue against a conspiracy by at least 10 to 1, I can't understand why some people are actually upset about this book even being published.
And I'll call it right now that there will be nothing in it that changes a single conspiracy proponent's mind.
I was one of those vague "believers" until I read Gerald Posner's 1993 book, Case Closed. I finally understood the "magic bullet" and why JFK's head went "back and to the left." While Posner's book was a bestseller I think Bugliosi's will sell a lot more because of his name and the credibility he has. In addition he will be all over TV, much more than Posner was.
I actually find myself more interested in conspracy theory as a general concept; how the conspiracy theories one believes in or disbelieves in tend to reinforce one's own value system.
A worthy endeavor.
Whether or not LHO was a lone gunman or a cog in a larger conspiracy will never be definitively proven or disproven. People will believe whatever they want to. (The problem with disproving conspiracy theories -- good ones, anyway -- is that they're difficult to disprove.).
Not that that makes the conspiracy theorists give up on that point or any other.
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02-21-07, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by movielib
I'll be shocked if this book does not make the bestseller list.
As a former history professor, I'm always pleased when people are interested in history. I just wish it were something other than this tired old subject.
Still, we can't pick and choose, right? If folks buy it (and, more importantly, if they read it), good for them.
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02-21-07, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by djmont
You may be right, especially if we're just talking the extended list (which can often be made with fewer then 5000 copies sold). But I don't see much widespread appeal (or sales potential) of a book like this. It's either 25 years too late, or 50 years too early. (And the cost and the heft don't help.) I also don't think the general public has the faintest idea who Bugliosi is.
As a former history professor, I'm always pleased when people are interested in history. I just wish it were something other than this tired old subject.
Still, we can't pick and choose, right? If folks buy it (and, more importantly, if they read it), good for them.
As a former history professor, I'm always pleased when people are interested in history. I just wish it were something other than this tired old subject.
Still, we can't pick and choose, right? If folks buy it (and, more importantly, if they read it), good for them.
02-21-07, 06:19 PM
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Depending on the week, you're still only talking 10,000 copies. And the publishers can gin that up, if they want to. Heck, some weeks 20k will get you #1.
I'm still amazed at the sheer size of the thing! You've got to think that the publisher shit a brick when he turned in that manuscript.
I'm still amazed at the sheer size of the thing! You've got to think that the publisher shit a brick when he turned in that manuscript.
02-22-07, 10:54 AM
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Chapter list:
This was posted on a different forum by one of our members, who knows much more about the JFK assassination than I do, davidvp. Thanks David. And where are you?
TABLE OF CONTENTS for Vince Bugliosi's "RECLAIMING HISTORY" (subject to possible change before publication date):
Dedication
Introduction
1.) "Four Days In November"
2.) "The Investigations"
3.) "President Kennedy's Autopsy And The Gunshot Wounds To Kennedy And
Governor Connally"
4.) "The Most Famous Home Movie Ever, The 'Magic Bullet', And The
Single-Bullet Theory"
5.) "Lee Harvey Oswald"
6.) "Oswald's Ownership And Possession Of The Rifle Found On The Sixth
Floor"
7.) "Identification Of The Weapon"
8.) "Oswald At The Sniper's Nest And 'Evidence' Of His Innocence"
9.) "Motive"
10.) "The Grassy Knoll"
11.) "A Conversation With Dr. Cyril Wecht"
12.) "Secret Service Agents On The Grassy Knoll"
13.) "The Zanies (And Others) Have Their Say"
14.) "Other Assassins"
15.) "Summary Of Oswald's Guilt"
16.) "Introduction To Conspiracy"
17.) "History Of The Conspiracy Movement"
18.) "Mark Lane"
19.) "Mysterious And Suspicious Deaths"
20.) "The Second Oswald"
21.) "David Lifton And Alterations Of The President's Body"
22.) "Ruby And The Mob"
23.) "Organized Crime"
24.) "CIA"
25.) "FBI"
26.) "Secret Service"
27.) "KGB"
28.) "Right Wing"
29.) "LBJ"
30.) "Cuba"
31.) "The Odio Incident And Anti-Castro Cuban Exiles"
32.) "Cover-Up By Federal Agencies Of Alleged Conspiracy To Murder
President Kennedy"
33.) "Jim Garrison's Prosecution Of Clay Shaw And Oliver Stone's Movie
'JFK'"
34.) "Conclusion Of No Conspiracy"
35.) "The Murder Trial Of Jack Ruby"
36.) "A Conversation With Marina"
37.) "Kennedy-Lincoln Coincidences"
38.) "The People And Groups Involved In The Plot To Kill Kennedy"
39.) "Epilogue"
40.) "In Memoriam"
Acknowledgments
Bibliography
Index
Dedication
Introduction
1.) "Four Days In November"
2.) "The Investigations"
3.) "President Kennedy's Autopsy And The Gunshot Wounds To Kennedy And
Governor Connally"
4.) "The Most Famous Home Movie Ever, The 'Magic Bullet', And The
Single-Bullet Theory"
5.) "Lee Harvey Oswald"
6.) "Oswald's Ownership And Possession Of The Rifle Found On The Sixth
Floor"
7.) "Identification Of The Weapon"
8.) "Oswald At The Sniper's Nest And 'Evidence' Of His Innocence"
9.) "Motive"
10.) "The Grassy Knoll"
11.) "A Conversation With Dr. Cyril Wecht"
12.) "Secret Service Agents On The Grassy Knoll"
13.) "The Zanies (And Others) Have Their Say"
14.) "Other Assassins"
15.) "Summary Of Oswald's Guilt"
16.) "Introduction To Conspiracy"
17.) "History Of The Conspiracy Movement"
18.) "Mark Lane"
19.) "Mysterious And Suspicious Deaths"
20.) "The Second Oswald"
21.) "David Lifton And Alterations Of The President's Body"
22.) "Ruby And The Mob"
23.) "Organized Crime"
24.) "CIA"
25.) "FBI"
26.) "Secret Service"
27.) "KGB"
28.) "Right Wing"
29.) "LBJ"
30.) "Cuba"
31.) "The Odio Incident And Anti-Castro Cuban Exiles"
32.) "Cover-Up By Federal Agencies Of Alleged Conspiracy To Murder
President Kennedy"
33.) "Jim Garrison's Prosecution Of Clay Shaw And Oliver Stone's Movie
'JFK'"
34.) "Conclusion Of No Conspiracy"
35.) "The Murder Trial Of Jack Ruby"
36.) "A Conversation With Marina"
37.) "Kennedy-Lincoln Coincidences"
38.) "The People And Groups Involved In The Plot To Kill Kennedy"
39.) "Epilogue"
40.) "In Memoriam"
Acknowledgments
Bibliography
Index
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02-22-07, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by movielib
Chapter list:
This was posted on a different forum by one of our members, who knows much more about the JFK assassination than I do, davidvp. Thanks David. And where are you?
This was posted on a different forum by one of our members, who knows much more about the JFK assassination than I do, davidvp. Thanks David. And where are you?
That's what you call leaving no stone unturned.
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This {chapter list for "Reclaiming History"} was posted on a different forum by one of our members, who knows much more about the JFK assassination than I do, davidvp. Thanks David. And where are you?
Here I am, movielib. How ya doin'?
I just discovered this thread today. Sorry I'm late.
That Chapter List above comes via this "Library Of Congress" webpage.....
http://www.loc.gov/catdir/toc/ecip079/2007001545.html
That Table Of Contents, however, will probably change (slightly anyway), because that list was based on a "2-volume" book set, which Vince Bugliosi originally wanted to do, but he changed his mind on that.
BTW, the "2nd volume" WILL still be included (sort of), in the form of another (get this) 1,122 pages of additional searchable material (including tons of endnotes and source notes) on a companion CD-ROM that will be included with each copy of "RECLAIMING HISTORY" (great re-titling by VB, btw; a fabulous title, IMO).
So that makes a total of 2,800+ pages of VB common sense and logical thinking pertaining to the JFK case! Can't beat that, even with a great big ol' stick!
I've been a huge fan of Mr. Bugliosi's for many years, and, in fact, have been (pre)-touting his JFK book for a long time too. Perhaps that's foolish on my part; but knowing the kind of thoroughness and accurateness that Vince applies to everything he does, I really don't think my faith in his JFK work is misplaced in the slightest.
If anyone is interested (and perhaps you are, since you're looking at this VB book thread), below are some links to Vince Bugliosi-related JFK topics (including a bunch of VB quotes that I have managed to unearth while searching the Internet over the past few years).
And if you want to see Vince B. in action at the 1986 TV Docu-Trial ("ON TRIAL: LEE HARVEY OSWALD", which I'd advise anyone to try and get a video copy of via a private seller, as I did a few years ago), I've linked some great clips from the "trial" that were recently put on YouTube by an e-mail pal of mine. ......
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.c...e25b10c50ea468
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.c...2929be83607513
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.c...e26a3befc052b8
http://www.jfklancerforum.com/dc/dcb...ng_type=search
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02022007...indy_adams.htm
http://www.wwnorton.com/catalog/spring07/004525.htm
http://www.amazon.com/Reclaiming-His...065385-6525668
http://www.amazon.com/gp/discussionb...hor=0393045250
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VIDEO CLIPS:
http://youtube.com/results?search_qu...&search=Search
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A FEW SELECTED VINCE B. QUOTES:
"If Lee Harvey Oswald had nothing to do with President Kennedy's assassination and was framed....this otherwise independent and defiant would-be revolutionary, who disliked taking orders from anyone, turned out to be the most willing and cooperative frame-ee in the history of mankind!! Because the evidence of his guilt is so monumental, that he could have just as well gone around with a large sign on his back declaring in bold letters 'I Just Murdered President John F. Kennedy'!!!" -- Vincent Bugliosi; 1986 (From the TV Docu-Trial)
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"Anyone...ANYONE who would believe that Lee Harvey Oswald was innocent, would believe someone who told them that they heard a cow speaking the Spanish language!" -- VB; 1986 (TV Docu-Trial)
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"I'm 95% sure he {Oswald} acted alone; and if you threw 85% of the evidence out the window there would still be enough to prove his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt." -- VB; 1988
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"Though there are some notable exceptions, for the most part the persistent rantings of the Warren Commission critics remind me of dogs barking idiotically through endless nights." -- VB; 1986
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"If there's one thing I take pride in, it's that I never, ever make a charge without supporting it. You might not agree with me, but I invariably offer an enormous amount of support for my position." -- VB; 1998
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My own thoughts (in abundance) about the JFK assassination, and who was responsible:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.c...76a858c280d962
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A 29-MINUTE INTERVIEW WITH VINCENT BUGLIOSI RE. HIS JFK BOOK (FROM APRIL 30, 2007):
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Click on the image of Mr. Bugliosi at the link below to access the interview:
http://www.fora.tv/fora/fora_clip.php?cid=917
The above-linked interview seems to be a unedited version of the interview. You'll note redundancy in a portion of it, that I assume will be cut out for the final version (which is slated to appear, at some point, on VB's book website at www.reclaiminghistory.com). Plus, VB makes a couple of gaffes that will likely be excised as well.
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Click on the image of Mr. Bugliosi at the link below to access the interview:
http://www.fora.tv/fora/fora_clip.php?cid=917
The above-linked interview seems to be a unedited version of the interview. You'll note redundancy in a portion of it, that I assume will be cut out for the final version (which is slated to appear, at some point, on VB's book website at www.reclaiminghistory.com). Plus, VB makes a couple of gaffes that will likely be excised as well.
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