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Old 05-27-04, 03:43 PM
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best sci-fi/fantasy series ever? NOT LOTR!!!

I've run out of books to read and I'm looking for suggestions. Some of my favorites are:

The Gap Series (Stephen Donaldson)
Crown Of Stars Series (Kate Elliot)<------still one left to publish!
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I recomend "A Song of Fire and Ice" series by George R.R. Martin
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I think the best fantasy series next to LOTR is Robert Jordan's "Wheel of Time" series. Mind you it is now at 12 books and still is not completed but they are a lot of fun.
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As I recall, the Foundation Trilogy by Isaac Asimov was voted best all-time sci-fi series (Hugo Awards, maybe?)
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Orson Scott Card and the Ender's Game series is great. L. ron's Mission Earth 10 book line is good. Laurell K. Hamilton's Anita Blake is also great, though I'm not sure if you would classify it as scifi/fantasy (I would, but you might not). Have you tried any of these?
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If you haven't read them, Dan Simmons' Hyperion books are fantastic, especially the first two (which are really one book).

The second two are okay, but forgettable.
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I recommend "The Song of Ice and Fire" series by George R.R. Martin and "A Tale of the Malazan Book of the Fallen" series by Stephen Erikson.
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I've read a lot of fantasy... and enjoyed this series of books more than any other.


By Robin Hobb


Farseer Trilogy

Assassin's Apprentice
Royal Assassin
Assassin's Quest


The Tawny Man Trilogy

Fool's Errand
The Golden Fool
Fool's Fate
Old 05-29-04, 10:33 PM
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Another vote for George RR Martin A Song of Ice and Fire. Robin Hobb's series were good as well.
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I really enjoyed the Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn series by Tad Williams. I don't see it mentioned much though? Has anyone else read this?

I actually emailed Tad Williams once I'd finished the series and he was kind enough to reply.
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sci-fi: gotta give love to the Zahn Star Wars trilogy. A great read every time.

fantasy: The Dark Tower series.
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Originally posted by Michael Corvin
sci-fi: gotta give love to the Zahn Star Wars trilogy. A great read every time.

fantasy: The Dark Tower series.
Agree on the Timothy Zahn SW trilogy...

Have you read any of the New Jedi Order books yet? They really change the SW universe. I'm on the last bookin the series, "The Unifying Force."
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Foundation.
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Stephen King's Dark Tower series.
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David Gemmell's Drenai Tales (kinda heroic fantasy ) ACE!
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Originally posted by Beaver
Another vote for George RR Martin A Song of Ice and Fire. Robin Hobb's series were good as well.

They are the knights of summer...and winter is coming...


HELL YEAH! Song of Ice and Fire.
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I don't know weather to be happy or sad, as I have read virtually every one of the series listed. My favorites include Song of Fire and Ice and Hobb's Farseer Books. I have never read books so obssesvily as I did with the Farseer Books. Also for fans of ASOFI George wrote 2 novellas Hedge Knight, and The Sworn Sword, which take place about 100 years before those books.

Comments on other series:

Fiest's Riftwar Saga: Good stuff, but The Empire Trilogy Cowritten with Jainy Wurtis might be the best Trilogy I've read. But Read the Riftwar books first.

Card's Ender Quartet Ender's Game is one of the Must read books in the SciFi genre, with that said I rate it near the bottom of the whole series. After Ender's Game, there is a trilogy stating with Speaker for the Dead, that takes place in the distant future on the otherside of the Universe with Ender as an adult (it all involves light speed travel, read the book for specifics but it makes sense). This trilogy is different from EG, as it is much more cerebrel, and philosophical, and deeper. The first 2 books Speaker for the Dead, and Xenocide are my favorites of the series.

Card also is writting another series invoving other characters from EG, starting with Shadow of the Hedgemon which is a retelling of Ender's Game from Bean's (who was Ender's right hand man) perspective. I liked this book better than EG. The next two books in this series involve Ender's Generals and how they take their place in the changing World. These 2 books are like high tech, espionage type novels, and so far they have been pretty good.

Tad Williams's Memory Sorrow And Thorn I had trouble getting into this series, and it took about 200 pages for me, but I'm glad I stuck it out as it turned out to be a great series. This is long long Trilogy I belive the first 2 books are around 700 pages, and the 3rd book is around 1600 pages. It was good stuff.

Sword of Truth by Terry Goodkind Books in this series are very hit and miss. Some of the books are excellent, and others are just bad. Terry borrows a lot from Robert Jordan and Terry Brooks. However this series is very mature and not for kids as Goodkind seems to have a love affair graphic descriptions of perverse torcher scenes. Faith of the Fallen was my favorite books of the series and Goodkind went and pissed me off with the next book Pillars of Creation focusing on a new character, and not even involving the maincharacters until the last few pages. This just killed all of the momentum for me, and I haven't read anymore of the series since.

It's late, and I'll list more opinions on several other series later.
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Elizabeth Moon has a few good ones. I think Once a Hero is one of them in the series, can't remember for sure. But don't let my forgetting the name imply anything about the quality, they are good books
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My personal favorite of All Time has always been and probably will always be the Dragonlance Saga by Weis & Hickman.
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Another vote for A Song of Ice and Fire, although its still not finished.

After reading ASOIAF I tried reading Terry Goodkind's Wizards First Rule, About half way through I realized how boring and one-dimensional the characters were.
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Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams This 5 book Trilogy is ripe with Brittish Humor. It is a wacky series that is pretty damn funny, and pretty damn good. It starts out with a Girl who figures out the meaning of life, only to have the wolrd destroyed a second later by the Vogons, because it was in the way of their new Intergalactic Highway. You will follow the adventures of Aurthur dent as he travels through time and space. This series is well worth a read.

Well World Books by Jack L Chalker There are 9 books in this series and there are 3 different stories told in those books. Unfortunetly most of these books are out of print so you will probably have to hunt them down. This is a shame as these are excellent books that are highly original and very entertaining.

The premise is this, one species of aliens evolved into god like beings, and eventually they got bored so they created every othere species in the universe, and used them as a great experiement to see which species would evolve first. They created these beings on Well World, which is a giant computer that governs this experiment. The Aliens themselves they either died out or changed into a different species, but they left one man Nathan Brazil, to be the maintenece man for the experiment. Basically Brazil is immortal, and it is his job to reset the experiment if something goes wrong. Reseting the experiment invovles killing off every being recreating the universe. The lone exception is Well World which is outside the parameters of the experiment. Very good stuff

Early Starwars books The early Star Wars Books are really good. Especially Timothy Zahn's trilogy, which I belive Lucas should have made into movies instead of the prequels. The jedi Academy Trilogy, which is about Luke setting up a new jedi order, was a great read. I used to read these books regularly, but then they just exploded in number and I gave up on them.

What is great about these books is that they add much more depth to these popular characters. Also with the early ones, since the books were written one at a time, this allowed the author's to form a continuety with theirs books. You would find one author refrencing events from another author's book, if something happened to a character in one trilogy it happened to them in another author's trilogy.

Windhaven by George RR Martin and Lisa Turtle This book is really 3 novellas spanning the life of one person Maris of Amberly in a world of small islands distances away from each other. They communicate with each other by gliding on the wind currents with Metal wings. Due to the lack of metal wings on the planet only a select few can fly. The first novella is about Maris changing the world so that she and everybody can have a chance to fly. The second Novella takes place with an older Maris as she is helping with a new struggling flying school. The 3rd novella involves a old maris who nearly dies in a crash and has to cope with being grounded for the rest of her life. This is a great book, with a bittersweet ending.
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The first few Anne McCaffery were entertaining. I agree, the first 3 dragonlance books were great. Then they turned it into a franchise and everything since then has been crap. I'm still hoping Robert Jordan will finish the series before he dies, but am caring less and less each book. Raymond Feist has turned out a few good ones. Tad Williams's Memory Sorrow And Thorn was also great. But I would have to agree with everyone who votes for A Song of Ice and Fire.
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I read the first book of Memory, Sorrow and Thorn and had to force myself to finish that. Same with the first book of Tad William's Otherland series. I had high hopes for both after falling in love with Tailchaser's Song which I've read probably a dozen times.

Agree with Zahn SW trilogy, Hitchhiker's trilogy, Dragonriders of Pern.

And along the lines of Tailchaser's Song, Watership Down is a great read.
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He said "not LOTR," so I presume shameless LOTR rip-offs are also out.
Meh, I'm going to have to respectfully disagree.
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I enjoyed the Tripods trilogy. "White Mountains", "City of Gold and Lead" & "Pool of Fire". Have read them multiple times since I was around 10. Would love to see them adapted to film.

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